Official Nintendo Topic

[sonicbrawler182]

I've seen a lot of reports regarding many games not being able to handle both 60FPS and 1080p on the PS4 and Xbox One.

This is another big reason why the PS4 and Xbox One are quite underwhelming right now, especially since Wii U games are accomplishing this just fine. It was one of the things people were looking forward to on PS4 and Xbox One, especially since one of the main selling points for spec-enthusiasts is that they are more PC-like in their architecture and capabilities.

Though I personally don't mind too much about specs. To me, the Wii U is actually the most next gen console out of the bunch, as it's doing the most impressive things Not graphics or specs-wise, but in terms of innovation in what games can do and how we play them. And the GamePad interface actually has the potential to make games more PC-like, with the use of extra buttons on the touch screen. I can easily see MMO's that have a lot of keyboard controls working on the GamePad by using icons on the GamePad screen.

[Rayfist]

I do agree with Sonicbrawler, honestly, based on what I've seen (maybe I need to get hands on to actually see it), out of the 3, Wii U seems to be the most next gen, and the most full 60 fps games. Interesting thoughts regardless Ad... however Mario 3D world a step back? It looks a lot better than the New Super Mario Bros junk in my opinion, unless you're comparing it to the 3D titles.... I guess I see what you're saying. As for Mario Kart 8, really? If anything I think 8 has a lot of potential, are you really going to skip out on it? Especially since ever since Mario Kart wii, it's had awesome online, I wouldn't skip it personally. Honestly, even PS4 and Xbox One are having rough launches (other than Dead RIsing 3 which is likely to kick ass.), to me the Wii U seems to have a better launch.

[Adsolution]

And can you quit making accusations on my character? It doesn't reflect well on your own.

Nope. By the way, you're poorly accusing my character by claiming that it doesn't reflect well on me (fuck you?); you have a tendency to piss a lot of people off, in case that wasn't blatantly obvious, so I'd say that your character unfortunately does need a bit of work. I take issue with your inability to treat other people like intelligent human beings, and for that, I hold little to no respect for you, and I will continue to show this every time you make an overtly poor self-assessment. / :

But with the nature of the SwapNote service, this is impossible, for any company.

No it isn't, they can either have it run through an online filter between each local message, or install a system update to create a local filter. I already listed other alternatives too, which you seem to have missed. No, it isn't impossible, but it's not exactly easy.

Interesting thoughts regardless Ad... however Mario 3D world a step back? It looks a lot better than the New Super Mario Bros junk in my opinion, unless you're comparing it to the 3D titles....

Which I am, indeed. No need to sound uncertain though, it's pretty obvious that 3D World is meant to be sort of like a little sibling to the big 3D console titles. It's a step backward in the sense that they're doing nothing new, and actually regressing both creatively and mechanically.

I guess I see what you're saying. As for Mario Kart 8, really? If anything I think 8 has a lot of potential, are you really going to skip out on it? Especially since ever since Mario Kart wii, it's had awesome online, I wouldn't skip it personally.

"It has potential" isn't really what I'm looking for anymore, it's basically the equivalent of saying "it could be a good game". No, what I'm looking for is something where I can say "holy shit, that's going to be game of the year... for two years in a row!", something where potential doesn't even come into question, it's very clearly taking things a huge ten steps forward. That's what they always used to do back then, and to be honest, outside of a few arbitrary selections such as Galaxy, Uprising and Skyward Sword, they've made no attempt to push the envelope.

[Rayfist]

Actually, it's more of a sibling to 3D land for the 3DS, simply on the Wii U. Needless to say, it looks worth it to me. I will admit, the E3 trailer for 3D world was ass, but now it looks a lot better, especially the casino themed levels, it all looks... fresh. I don't think I'd at all count it as part of the free-roaming series. Personally, I think the game looks like it'd be really fun with co-op.

Game of the year? That's quite the high expectations. Regardless, I'm not saying Mario Kart 8 will be the most jaw-dropping game, my point is, it looks fun, and there really isn't much reason to skip out on it in my opinion. Mario Kart has always kicked ass with online, it looks fun, simple as that. But not game of the year material.

In any case, Miyamoto did say he was going to take a break from Mario after the upcoming titles, so hopefully we'll see some new stuff.

[sonicbrawler182]

Nope. By the way, you're poorly accusing my character by claiming that it doesn't reflect well on me (fuck you?); you have a tendency to piss a lot of people off, in case that wasn't blatantly obvious, so I'd say that your character unfortunately does need a bit of work. I take issue with your inability to treat other people like intelligent human beings, and for that, I hold little to no respect for you, and I will continue to show this every time you make an overtly poor self-assessment. / :

First I've heard of it. Nobody has said anything to me about it. So yeah, whatever. And most of my posts are literally something one could not get pissed off at - like news posts and just goofing around, or discussing a game in it's relevant topic. So either people are extremely sensitive AND cowardly (to only tell you about their problems with me rather than just be straight with me), or you're lying. And you (and whoever else), should express their problems with me via PM. Not in random outbursts in unrelated topics.

I take issue with your inability to treat other people like intelligent human beings

OK now that's just ridiculous. Aren't you the one who's always throwing random, derogatory terms at people (I can list many occasions where you did, to others and myself, without prompt. I've only ever done anything remotely resembling this when you did so to me)?

Also, trying to flame someone and getting angry at them in a discussion about Nintendo, A+ moderating, 11/10, fucking incredible (and I'm not the only one who thinks there's a problem with that - remember how I said that if someone sees a moderator like you on a site, it can turn them off? Yeah, you turned someone off joining already). :V

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Regarding Mario 3D World and Mario Kart 8, I'll likely get them, but I'm not super excited for them like I was with Sonic Lost World, or like I am with Super Smash Bros.

[Haruka]

I honestly can't understand why a member that joined for a month is suddenly targetting a moderator (just because it has got an orange name) that is around us for five years. Honestly, if you were in here since much more time you would have been shocked with some members whose names I won't mention, but the veterans will probably guess who am I reaching.

[Keane]

@Sonic: We personally chose Adsol as a moderator and many of us even suggested he'd be one during a time before that. Imo, Ad contributes some of the most interesting talk to the forum. Really, what the fuck?

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3D world looks fun but I agree it's a step down. To me 3D Land felt like nothing more then New Super Mario Bros.... but in 3D. I never really got into that game although I beat it and all the special challenges.

Kart 8 looks great though. But I'm probably expecting perhaps just a tiny bit much because Mario Kart is just as huge as Smash Bros. for me.

I get what Ad means though. I buy every game from every franchise I like but maybe I should stop doing that because I'm getting a little tired of it. Or at least, I'm not as excited about them as I used to be.

[Adsolution]

@Rayfist:
Money, I don't have a lot of it. $60 isn't something I can toss around when there's always a better game around I can pick up. Obviously game preference is left up to the individual, and I think it does look fun to say the least, but when there are better games around in my opinion, I have absolutely every reason to skip out on it.

Game of the year? That's quite the high expectations.

Not really, given what Nintendo is clearly capable of. I'm not saying this in regards to Mario Kart though, just as for what Nintendo could be doing on top of, or, if money is short, instead of.

First I've heard of it. Nobody has said anything to me about it. So yeah, whatever.

Then you're literally blind, or you have a super powerful filter in your mind. Haruka has, just in this thread, expressed her annoyance at your inability to understand her far more realistic argument when you attempted to claim she didn't "understand the situation", I also recall both Zepto and Keane siding with me on you being a bitchy twit during the grammar correction incident, and Bzzit booning you over your nonsensical words during the GTA incident. I really would rather not bring others into the equation when trying to prove a point as one member should be able to stand their own ground with logic, reason and humanity, but with you, there's literally no other way.

Also, trying to flame someone and getting angry at them in a discussion about Nintendo, A+ moderating, 11/10, fucking incredible

What does this being a discussion about Nintendo have anything to do with anything, and what the fuck does this have to do with moderating? I'd be pointing out your ignorance regardless of the colour of my username.

(and I'm not the only one who thinks there's a problem with that - remember how I said that if someone sees a moderator like you on a site, it can turn them off? Yeah, you turned someone off joining already). :V

Oh dear, I didn't realise that we were advocates of superficiality. :V

[Keane]

Ad you're gonna create another member of the Rayman Tumblr fandom that whines about RPC being a bunch of meanies.

[OCG]

@Sonic
I really don't see a connection how is moderating having to do anything with Nintendo like other said. Oh and like others said, many suggested Ad for moderator. I have nothing agsinst you Sonic and I do think you are good member but perhaps you could try to talk on different way with Ad, seeing how the current way does not work best.

[sonicbrawler182]

I honestly can't understand why a member that joined for a month is suddenly targetting a moderator (just because it has got an orange name) that is around us for five years. Honestly, if you were in here since much more time you would have been shocked with some members whose names I won't mention, but the veterans will probably guess who am I reaching.

I'm not targeting anyone. Quite the opposite. Notice how in every single one of these arguments, Adsolution starts flaming. Notice how when he does this, it's mostly due to him simply not agreeing with my point of view on a matter. Notice how everytime this happens, he derails the topic, and throws in baseless accusations (I will gather up direct quotes if I have to, but if you guys are going to continue to say I'm at fault for criticising a mod, and proving his own baseless accusations against me to be false, when I have perfect grounds to do so, then you're clearly biased).

We personally chose Adsol as a moderator and many of us even suggested he'd be one during a time before that. Imo, Ad contributes some of the most interesting talk to the forum. Really, what the fuck?

And that was then. This is now. I've stumbled upon Adsol's older posts (such as when his Rayman 2 quiz was bumped). He was a much more well mannered person then.

And I am not criticising Adsol's ability to bring interesting discussion. In fact, I fully agree that he's capable of doing that. Problem is, he has difficulty accepting disagreement, or when he is flat out wrong (at least in his discussions with me - though he also did this in the argument with rolesfamily).

BTW, on another site, I was also suggested as mod material by multiple people. I guess that puts Ad and I on even ground, then. Not to mention I am a class rep in college, which is essentially a real life moderator of class.

Then you're blind. Haruka has, just in this thread, expressed her annoyance at your inability to understand her far more realistic argument when you attempted to claim she didn't "understand the situation", I also recall both Zepto and Keane siding with me on you being a bitchy twit during the grammar correction incident, and Bzzit booning you over your nonsensical words during the GTA incident. I really would rather not bring others into the equation when trying to prove a point as one member should be able to stand their own ground with logic, reason and humanity, but with you, there's literally no other way.

I'm not blind, I saw that post. Problem with it was, her argument was not realistic in the slightest. She failed to acknowledge SwapNote's lack of an end user agreement (that alone turned her argument on it's head, but then....). She failed to acknowledge the child molestation incident that prompted Nintendo to SUSPEND (she constantly claimed it was shut down permanently, which is untrue). I purposely did not mention the child molestation incident in this topic (however, I did hint to it) because I wanted to see if the people I was discussing the issue with were doing their research, and would find this out for themselves (and believe me, it wasn't hard information to come by). Turns out they weren't, which completely invalidates everything Haruka said. And regarding her Miiverse comparison - Miiverse has an end user agreement, and structurally and functionally, is essentially a forum. SwapNote is structurally and functionally, a one-to-one messaging service. The former is much easier to moderate, as the public does not take kindly to companies moderating their private messages.

So you see, I was not insulting Haruka's intelligence - she literally did not know why the service was shut down, and did not understand the logistics involved. I was not insulting her personality or intelligence. I was pointing out the factual truth that she was not informed in that argument. You're blind one for not picking up on this (and for not researching the issue yourself). This also tells me you have a clearly displayed bias towards older users, as you will go to the ends of the earth to flame me and "prove me and idiot", yet will let the most blatant oversights of other users slip straight under your nose.

See, I can take logic just fine. Your problem is that you are so convinced you are always right, you think you are logical even when making the stupidest mistakes.

What does this being a discussion about Nintendo have anything to do with , and what the fuck does this have to do with moderating? I'd be pointing out your ignorance regardless of the colour of my username.

This being a discussion about Nintendo means you had no grounds to bring up rash accusations about me, that had nothing to do with the discussion. I also like how made the EXACT same mistake as Haruka, and failed to address my researched, and backed up arguments, with "I highly doubt that", and other such flimsy arguments. As I've said time and time again, if you have an issue with me, take it to PM. This is basic code of conduct on a forum. A mod, of all people should know this. Whether you like it or not, moderators are representatives of a forum's community. When they are well-mannered and unbiased, it reflects well on a forum. When they are flaming users just because they cannot accept opinions on trivial things, or cannot accept that someone may have a habit with their typing (and flame the user when they simply explain this habit and that it will continue simply because it is burned into their mind). Forums outright crumble when mods take up your attitude. A friend of mine, who used a My Little Pony forum, showed me how the moderators basically tore the site to pieces with their terrible attitude. The site is basically becoming a ghost town, and many potential new users were driven away. He linked me to that site, and I saw what happened there - and you are being exactly like those mods. So I am not some random new user making wild accusations, I am full of evidence.

I don't care if I'm new. If older users want to hold your flimsy arguments in higher regard just because you've been a mod for a while, that's fine. But they are in an extreme minority - most people can see your bullshit in the blink of an eye, and I could go on all day pointing out every single misstep you've made. And moderator or not, you have no place getting pissy at me, or anyone else, and throwing insults, over disagreements that are trivial at most. This has everything to do with you being a mod, because you are essentially a figure head on this site. If a mod can freely act like you do, why would potential members join, when your actions imply others can be just as much of an asshole, and provide an unpleasant experience. And let me just say that:

I will continue to show this every time you make an overtly poor self-assessment. / :

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Ad you're gonna create another member of the Rayman Tumblr fandom that whines about RPC being a bunch of meanies.

So I'm the whiner, yet Ad has been the one taking issue with itty bits of my personality and blowing them out of proportion (also, claiming I insulted him in the past when I didn't - the epitome of whining), doing the same to other users, and crying for attention when, as a mod, he should of been more mature in his actions (see the rolesfamily topic - he should of deleted that when it was made. As a mod, that is one of his responsibilities. Instead, he got in a hissyfit with a member over something pointless, and specifically did so to have other people gang up on roles - because Ad didn't like roles - a harmless user, who Ad assumed EVERYONE had a problem with - everyone being, his circle of friends)?

By all means, he can "Ad" me to whatever you are referring to. But considering how I've, on a forum I'm a long time member of, trumped people just like Ad on multiple occasions (including well known members), been suggested for mod (I did not get the position as I did not want it, so I did not apply. And the site admin handpicked the mods, so no voting involved - which admittedly led to some bad choices), been the site therapist (not my term), been told I should take courses in Video Games Design, Psychology, and Philosophy, been the cause of multiple forum members finding love, been the cause of former members having their sexual frustrations sorted out by their lover (this one was really recent, actually), saved both friends and strangers on the site from suicide, took responsibility when mods were too cowardly or outright lazy to sort out various disputes, motivated people who were ready to give up on their artistic aspirations, received and sent birthday gifts from and to fellow forum members (none of which I requested, they were surprises), become friendly with the parents of forum members (having lovely conversations about art and such), exposed pedophiles on the site, been known to admit when I'm wrong - and MANY other things - I think he could add me to whatever ego-rubbing tumblr "fandom" he has (assuming it's real, and I hope for his credibility it's not real), and I could walk away, being perfectly capable of not giving a shit, and having at least a smidgen of self respect left - Master didn't claim to sense forum experience in me for no reason when I joined. I've been around.

Have a nice day, guys.

[Haruka]

Ad you're gonna create another member of the Rayman Tumblr fandom that whines about RPC being a bunch of meanies.

xD OMG, Keane.

I'm not targeting anyone. Quite the opposite. Notice how in every single one of these arguments, Adsolution starts flaming. Notice how when he does this, it's mostly due to him simply not agreeing with my point of view on a matter. Notice how everytime this happens, he derails the topic, and throws in baseless accusations (I will gather up direct quotes if I have to, but if you guys are going to continue to say I'm at fault for criticising a mod, and proving his own baseless accusations against me to be false, when I have perfect grounds to do so, then you're clearly biased).

Three letters: WTF. I pretty much saw this whole discussion since the beginning and I say this is the correct version:

Adsolution is not targeting anyone. Quite the opposite. Notice how in every single one of these arguments, sonicbrawler starts flaming. Notice how when he does this, it's mostly due to him simply not agreeing with my point of view on a matter. Notice how everytime this happens, he derails the topic, and throws in baseless accusations.

Seriously, Adsolution has been explaining his points and I see you changing/detouring the subject, by playing the "Becauz he's a mod" card. And yet you never bothered to explain why the moderation is the source of the issue. Just because he is confronting you with valid arguments. Did he ban you or anything? You should be lucky that the administration is not a ban Nazi (and I know what I'm saying because I've frequented other forums before and the moderation was a true shame).

I'm not blind, I saw that post. Problem with it was, her argument was not realistic in the slightest. She failed to acknowledge SwapNote's lack of an end user agreement (that alone turned her argument on it's head, but then....). She failed to acknowledge the child molestation incident that prompted Nintendo to SUSPEND (she constantly claimed it was shut down permanently, which is untrue).

I could repost again the stuff I wrote if I liked but people are free to check those again because I never said the word "permanently" so do not invent stuff please.

So you see, I was not insulting Haruka's intelligence - she literally did not know why the service was shut down, and did not understand the logistics involved. I was not insulting her personality or intelligence. I was pointing out the factual truth that she was not informed in that argument. You're blind one for not picking up on this (and for not researching the issue yourself).

Then bother yourself to explain me what is this: http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2013/1 ... y_concerns

I do know why the service got shut down for christ's sake. Kids. Offensive material.

And as a last thing, I might be in the forum for more time than Ad, but I used to have the orange nickname before him. Will you play the mod card now?

I really don't retire anything that I said before. I am conscient of my reasoning, and for a freaking fourth time, I'm not defending the exposure to the offensive material, I only think that Nintendo could have solved the stuff in a better way. /end of subject (for real)

[sonicbrawler182]

All that needs to be addressed in your post:

That article is vague. Further digging will lead you to a child molestation issue being present.

I never said the word "permanently"

But you said "shut down", which is basically a "permanent suspension".

The rest of the post is ignorance without substance.

[Haruka]

All that needs to be addressed in your post:

That article is vague. Further digging will lead you to a child molestation issue being present.

Thank you for your support.

Nintendo has learned that some consumers, including minors, have been exchanging their friend codes on Internet bulletin boards and then using Swapnote (known as Nintendo Letter Box in other regions) to exchange offensive material. Nintendo has been investigating ways of preventing this and determined it is best to stop the SpotPass feature of Swapnote because it allows direct exchange of photos and was actively misused.

Nintendo always wants to provide a positive experience for all consumers and limit the risk of any inappropriate activity or misuse of a service. We feel it is important on this occasion to take this action.

We are very sorry for any inconvenience to the many consumers who have been using this service responsibly; however this decision was made considering the point that many minors also use this feature of Swapnote. Thank you for your understanding.

Nintendo will continue to work to ensure more consumers are aware of our Parental Control features, which allow parents to manage their children's experience on our systems. For more information, please click here.

Service stop date: Thursday, Oct. 31, 2013, 7 p.m. PT
Service being stopped: Nintendo 3DS software Swapnote - Sending and receiving notes using SpotPass
Affected regions: All regions where the service was offered
Special Notes services are also stopped

Is this vague too? I got this in my 3DS too by the way.

I never said the word "permanently"

But you said "shut down", which is basically a "permanent suspension".

Then I didn't say "permanently", but yes "shut down". But look to what is pointed in red in the quotation.

The rest of the post is ignorance without substance.

You know what? I'm laughing at you. I explained my points and yet it is ignorance without substance. Very well, I'll let you think in that, while I keep disagreeing and not retiring my points. I'm officially done with this subject for the third and last time. That last reply pretty much explains a lot too. Good night.

[OCG]

@Sonic
I see no "child molesting" mentioned in article nor 3DS message, and how is Haruka's post ignorant?

[Adsolution]

you've been a mod for a while

And that [three years ago] was then. This is now.

I'd like to point out that I've only been a moderator since June. All of the current orange moderators have only held the position since June, bar Hoodcom, who also held a moderating post back some six or seven years ago. Someone clearly hasn't been doing their research and is a nasty, nasty hypocrite!

I've stumbled upon Adsol's older posts (such as when his Rayman 2 quiz was bumped). He was a much more well mannered person then.

Not really, I just had more time then to participate in less noteworthy discussion, so a smaller percentage of my posts were like this. I haven't become less 'well-mannered', I often avoided those situations simply because I hadn't developed a good enough rationale to participate in them.

or when he is flat out wrong (at least in his discussions with me

Despite the fact that I countered your points from two different logical angles, and you refused to reply? Flat-out wrong, am I? Believe me, I admit when I'm wrong or have gone too far, that's how I became an Atheist - in fact, I even apologised to you and said it was wrong of me to have made that personal remark about your education during the GTA discussion. Fucking hypocrite.

While I may not be the most polite person around, I tend to avoid making posts in which I may end up being wrong, because I consider as many viewpoints and angles as I can fathom before I hit Submit, thus reinforcing that my arguments are strong enough. I do once in a while run into a situation where I am wrong (such as the one I mentioned), but I don't generally consider that to be a regular thing, and I do everything in my power before I post to make sure that I won't be at any point.

I'm not blind, I saw that post. Problem with it was, her argument was not realistic in the slightest. She failed to acknowledge SwapNote's lack of an end user agreement (that alone turned her argument on it's head, but then....). She failed to acknowledge the child molestation incident that prompted Nintendo to SUSPEND (she constantly claimed it was shut down permanently, which is untrue).

All of these things directly reinforce her point and mine; if Nintendo were strained by doing what they're already doing, they may not have been able to afford fixing their image, so they shut it down; specific incidents don't need to be explored.

I purposely did not mention the child molestation incident in this topic (however, I did hint to it) because I wanted to see if the people I was discussing the issue with were doing their research, and would find this out for themselves (and believe me, it wasn't hard information to come by). Turns out they weren't, which completely invalidates everything Haruka said.

No it doesn't? For all you know, everyone else could have been doing the exact same as you: testing everyone else's feeble intelligence.

This being a discussion about Nintendo means you had no grounds to bring up rash accusations about me, that had nothing to do with the discussion. (...) As I've said time and time again, if you have an issue with me, take it to PM. This is basic code of conduct on a forum.

You clearly do not understand how this forum works.

The site is basically becoming a ghost town, and many potential new users were driven away.

You seem blissfully unaware that these last few months are the most popular the forum has ever been, which demonstrates both your utterly newbish knowledge of the place and that our 'abysmal' bevhariour has little to nothing to do with the high activity. As for the quality of our behaviour, well, no one else seems to have a problem with it aside from you.

And let me just say that:

I will continue to show this every time you make an overtly poor self-assessment. / :

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That what? I was looking forward to reading your response.

as a mod, he should of been more mature in his actions (see the rolesfamily topic - he should of deleted that when it was made. As a mod, that is one of his responsibilities.

Again, you clearly do not understand how this forum works. Why would I delete the thread? I respect the integrity of free speech, now quit moderating a forum you don't understand, paddy nugget, and actually make the slightest attempt to be relevant.

Instead, he got in a hissyfit with a member over something pointless, and specifically did so to have other people gang up on roles - because Ad didn't like roles - a harmless user, who Ad assumed EVERYONE had a problem with - everyone being, his circle of friends)?

Lolwut, pointless hissyfits on my part? I wasn't the one who spontaneously jumped on the IRC, flaming about a little post Serza made asking him to be more relevant, then created a thread about it. As for the conclusion of the situation, the discussion ended in private (which was our choice), in which he realised his irrationality and apologised, we exchanged a couple friendly words, and it was all reconciled nicely.

I'd also like to point out that I was not the first person to make a comment toward roles, rather the third or forth person. In fact, I was only one of multiple people partaking in the discussion, and I only really took the wheel after he created that thread. Why you make it sound like I'm the driving force behind every single conflict on this forum I have no idea, but you seem to keep on referring back to the roles situation, which, ironically for you, I didn't even prominently make my voice heard in until the latter half of the situation, let alone start the bloody thing.

And moderator or not,

Why do you keep doing this? You make it sound like I'm asserting some authoritative dominance over you, which I never at any point did, nor would I.

This has everything to do with you being a mod, because you are essentially a figure head on this site.

Last I recall, now please alert me if I'm making a poor self-assessment, but I don't believe I'm generally someone people hate or have many problems with.

But considering how I've, on a forum I'm a long time member of, trumped people just like Ad on multiple occasions

Getting personal, are we? I am deeply offended, I say! Take it back, I say!

Fucking hypocrite.

The rest of the post is ignorance without substance.

LOL NOPE.

BTW, on another site, I was also suggested as mod material by multiple people. I guess that puts Ad and I on even ground, then. Not to mention I am a class rep in college, which is essentially a real life moderator of class.

I don't care; the fact that you're even debating grounds (which you yourself brought up) I find to be quite wrong. Uneven ground does not exist in rational light to me, so your claims of rank in other places have no bearing on my thoughts toward you whatsoever, nor should they.

I think he could add me to whatever ego-rubbing tumblr "fandom" he has (assuming it's real, and I hope for his credibility it's not real)

Technically, if it were for the credibility of his post, then it would have to be real, which it most certainly is. Calm down and use that fabled logic thing.

Master didn't claim to sense forum experience in me for no reason when I joined.

This quote is absolutely hilarious for reasons I unfortunately cannot disclose.

(including well known members), been suggested for mod (I did not get the position as I did not want it, so I did not apply. And the site admin handpicked the mods, so no voting involved - which admittedly led to some bad choices), been the site therapist (not my term), been told I should take courses in Video Games Design, Psychology, and Philosophy, been the cause of multiple forum members finding love, been the cause of former members having their sexual frustrations sorted out by their lover (this one was really recent, actually), saved both friends and strangers on the site from suicide, took responsibility when mods were too cowardly or outright lazy to sort out various disputes, motivated people who were ready to give up on their artistic aspirations, received and sent birthday gifts from and to fellow forum members (none of which I requested, they were surprises), become friendly with the parents of forum members (having lovely conversations about art and such), exposed pedophiles on the site, been known to admit when I'm wrong - and MANY other things

Once again, I really don't care to hear you arrogantly gloat about your past triumphs, when you literally do it just for the sake of attempting to add a spec of validity to your statements. For reference, since you seem to think this makes you such a good person, I myself have done most of those things you've listed around here as well; I don't feel good for telling you this, because it has absolutely nothing to do with the situation at hand, and in context, it makes me feel arrogant myself, even though it's purely for reference. But I applaud you for being such a beautiful person on those other forums that you've been a part of, good job, Irish. Saving lives is great, and a really great thing to feel, really. However, your stubborn attitude around this forum quite frankly makes me depressed, and I think it's become abundantly clear that members, both fresh and veteran, don't appreciate it either.


I understand the way you think, and you have the mindset of a star who has never been in a place where others are willing to argue as 'intelligently' as you do. You lack humility.

Luckily, I waltzed into this place when I was thirteen, so I've always been exposed to it coming from the senior members at the time, and now.

I've been around.

I'm more inclined to take this as an excuse for your pathetic attitude (you know, sometimes hardshipped people can be a bit unstable!) rather than something to admire you for. If you'd rather gloat about your hardships and adventures as a means for respect whilst putting down others as a means of showing off that you know what you're talking about, then you clearly haven't put your experience to good use.

You seem troubled and/or suffering from some chronic stress disorder likely as a result of trauma and/or hardships boring at you from the past. Would you like to choose one cup from a various assortment of teas to take home?

[Keane]

(his circle of friends)?

Rolesfamily made a big deal out of something very little that he could have chosen to drop if he wanted to. It was stupid but it's not like I now suddenly think he's a fucking idiot or something. Anyway, "circle of friends"? What? I would consider myself on friendly terms with Ad but I'm not worshipping him or anything (Unless we're talking about his musical talent). Just because I tend to agree more with him =/= I'm just saying he's right for no good reason. I've disagreed with him on things before.

And saying Zepto is part of that "circle" (She was one of the people who argued against Roles) is just fucking ridiculous. She's more patient then everyone on this site combined so if she is annoyed I'd say it's rather justified. She also happens to be kinder then 95% of us here and wouldn't just tell Roles he's wrong because she'll look so totally cool in Ad's eyes.

By all means, he can "Ad" me to whatever you are referring to. But considering how I've, on a forum I'm a long time member of, trumped people just like Ad on multiple occasions (including well known members), been suggested for mod (I did not get the position as I did not want it, so I did not apply. And the site admin handpicked the mods, so no voting involved - which admittedly led to some bad choices), been the site therapist (not my term), been told I should take courses in Video Games Design, Psychology, and Philosophy, been the cause of multiple forum members finding love, been the cause of former members having their sexual frustrations sorted out by their lover (this one was really recent, actually), saved both friends and strangers on the site from suicide, took responsibility when mods were too cowardly or outright lazy to sort out various disputes, motivated people who were ready to give up on their artistic aspirations, received and sent birthday gifts from and to fellow forum members (none of which I requested, they were surprises), become friendly with the parents of forum members (having lovely conversations about art and such), exposed pedophiles on the site, been known to admit when I'm wrong - and MANY other things - I think he could add me to whatever ego-rubbing tumblr "fandom" he has (assuming it's real, and I hope for his credibility it's not real), and I could walk away, being perfectly capable of not giving a shit, and having at least a smidgen of self respect left - Master didn't claim to sense forum experience in me for no reason when I joined. I've been around.

Splendid, good job. Keep doing it. I mean seriously, that's fucking cool. But that doesn't mean we're suddenly gonna go "Oh this guy did something in the past, we better respect him". I try to stay positive towards DLL whenever he starts to get dark but if I say something pathetic then he has every right to call me out for it.

Sorry but summing up how kind you've been to people is just unbelievably stupid and makes me loose a lot of respect. I like to be kind too, if you want to share something with me right when I'm about to go to sleep then I'll fuck up my school day so I can be there to listen to you, but I'd never use it to try and back up my argument. Like Ad said, you're coming across like you consider your deeds to be something to up your image.

[technology4617]

Sonicbrawler, I admit I have had my fair share of disagreements with Ad in the past, but I don't bitch about them like a whiny five-year-old like you seem to do. Most of the time, I try to analyze them, and can usually see where Ad or another member is coming from with their counter-argument, even if I still find it annoying.

Also, you're rather new to the forums, so, again, insulting a long-term member is fucking stupid. Rayman PC doesn't need another shitty new member, and you should be deeply ashamed that that is who I am comparing you to. At least you're not an idiot, but you could stand to be a little less of an arrogant fuck. Your baseless arguments, such as claims of hypocrisy and the like without actually having any evidence to BACK IT UP, don't exactly help your image either.

[Adsolution]

Keane's definitely part of what I consider to be my circle of friends, but like said, that is once again entirely irrelevant. I have absolutely no problem with disagreeing with friends and acquaintances at times, in fact, it would be downright creepy to not have any of that. White-knighting is a terrible, terrible thing which I heavily look down upon.

Sonicbrawler, I admit I have had my fair share of disagreements with Ad in the past, but I don't bitch about them like a whiny five-year-old like you seem to do. Most of the time, I try to analyze them, and can usually see where Ad or another member is coming from with their counter-argument, even if I still find it annoying.

Indeed, and while some, like you said, are not fond of some of the things you say at times, I still find you to be an enjoyable guy who I can have a casual conversation with, despite our disagreements - there's a basic mutual connection - I wouldn't get paragraphs of ass waffles defending some stuck-up point from you if I corrected a grammatical error, for instance.

[technology4617]

Indeed, and while some, like you said, are not fond of some of the things you say at times, I still find you to be an enjoyable guy who I can have a casual conversation with, despite our disagreements - there's a basic mutual connection - I wouldn't get paragraphs of ass waffles defending some stuck-up point from you if I corrected a grammatical error, for instance.

Thanks. Your words gingerly warm my ice-cold robot heart.