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Re: Pluses (+) and minuses (−) of this day.

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+ I've joined a sort of depression forum, hoping that might help a bit
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Watch out, it could be a trap.
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+ The forum actually does help

- Turns out I have intense review to do tonight and I don't feel like it

- Still feeling iffy
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- I just can't take living this life anymore. I'm trapped on a planet I hate, a part of a species that I also hate. What's the point? I try, but no matter how much I do it never turns out right in the end - I just end up at square one again. What's there to live for if I have no freedom, if nobody truly gets me, if I have such poor social skills that I'm always the outsider, if there's nothing positive about me. If there's nothing positive about this planet and human beings.

I just want to live in my own perfect world. I don't want to live on a planet chock full of corrupt governments, a blinded First World and a suffering Third World. I just want to be infinite. I feel like this is the reason why I've been really into Adventure Time recently - I've always liked it but it's more intense now. It's because I wish I could live in a world like that in the show - post-apocalyptic, yet beautiful. Free to go on thrilling adventures, surrounded by very diverse and interesting people, elements of high fantasy. Free to soar as a bird.

I don't even know what I'm going on about at this point. I just feel like I'm trapped in a rusty cage.
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Dark Lum Lord wrote:- I just can't take living this life anymore. I'm trapped on a planet I hate, a part of a species that I also hate. What's the point? I try, but no matter how much I do it never turns out right in the end - I just end up at square one again. What's there to live for if I have no freedom, if nobody truly gets me, if I have such poor social skills that I'm always the outsider, if there's nothing positive about me. If there's nothing positive about this planet and human beings.

I just want to live in my own perfect world. I don't want to live on a planet chock full of corrupt governments, a blinded First World and a suffering Third World. I just want to be infinite. I feel like this is the reason why I've been really into Adventure Time recently - I've always liked it but it's more intense now. It's because I wish I could live in a world like that in the show - post-apocalyptic, yet beautiful. Free to go on thrilling adventures, surrounded by very diverse and interesting people, elements of high fantasy. Free to soar as a bird.

I don't even know what I'm going on about at this point. I just feel like I'm trapped in a rusty cage.
Well, first of all, don't make any problems you're facing larger than they are. There's no need for over dramatic speeches or bringing national problems into that that's bothering you.

Also take a moment to realise what you do have, as from what I gather you're not entirely alone. When I get up from my computer, I have nobody at all except my family, soon to be just my parents after my brother leaves. I'm currently going through a process of some serious loneliness that's been existing since last year, and it's hard, because I really have to fight to break down every day, but I still like to believe that this is just a period that'll pass, and there's no reason not to think that. Sometimes I feel it's best to just let a certain thought go. I can force myself to become friends but then that'll only frustrate me more nor will I actually make any. Think it's just a thing that happens, not really something you can control.
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Also take a moment to realise what you do have, as from what I gather you're not entirely alone.
While the intentions of this sentiment are of a good nature, I'd just like to say this isn't the best thing to say to people who are feeling lonely, unless they are being bratty about it. Saying that to someone can really bring them down even if the intention is the opposite, because if someone is in a deep enough pool of negative thoughts, they could interpret a comment like that as a slap on the wrist of sorts, as if they are not entitled to feel lonely. Again, I stress that I know that wasn't your intention at all, I'm just letting you know for future reference! I'd also like to say that your advice is not bad by any means, it's just a risky thing to say to a lonely person.

From personal experience, I know that loneliness does not equal having nobody to talk to. Personally, all of the times I felt at my loneliest actually involved me having plenty of people to talk to (in fact, I have been going through this scenario for a few months now). You could be the most well known man on the planet, but could also be the loneliest. Sometimes, just missing ONE person from your life can make you feel extremely lonely, among other things. Or in some people's cases, they haven't met anyone they have a real "spark" with (I don't mean romance exclusively, here) at all. Loneliness is a weird feeling that can come from all kinds of places, but it boils down to feeling isolated in SOME way. Sometimes the source of the loneliness isn't easily identified, though. It can be as obvious as having no friends at all in any shape or form, or it could be more complex and subtle. For example, you could feel lonely simply because there is a certain aspect of your personality you feel you need to hide from the world. That part of you is isolated, and as a result, you can feel lonely even when surrounded by people to interact with, and if you don't realise you are bottling up this side of you, your loneliness will feel completely irrational to you.
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+ Remembered that "Primal Rage" exist and decided to play it.
- Now my fingers are numb from key smashing because the controls are awkward.
+ Its still fun.
+ I got pills for my insomnia, makes me fall asleep in under 30 minutes.
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- My mother is sick
- I am sick
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- My dad seriously just used My mothers name as an insult to my stepmom
- now I feel all emo inside :?
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- I think I may be depressed, I'm not entirely sure, but I'm starting to lose my usual better moments and days and even when I do feel just okay it's more just me being distracted by a video game or something

- Might be attending counseling tomorrow. Honestly, I'm not really looking forward to it. One thing I know they do is keep a sort of list of other people with similar problems that "they can hook you up to" but I don't think forced interaction with someone *just because* their lonely too is anything more than really uncomfortable talking. Loneliness doesn't mean you're each others type, nor does forcing interaction lead to anything usually.

- Have to perform a speech in front of class tomorrow and I'm not prepared.
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+ Incognito is getting alive he is officially 21 years old.

- he is older than me .
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incognito wrote:+ Incognito is getting alive he is officially 21 years old.

- he is older than me .
Why would you use “he”? If you’re referring to yourself, use “I”.
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If im Incognito that means i kill 1000 people everyday and that means there is not limit between reality and virtual.
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+ I feel good today, and I had yesterday too. Unlike earlier.
incognito wrote:If im Incognito that means i kill 1000 people everyday and that means there is not limit between reality and virtual.
You know, medicine for Schizophrenia exists.
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+ Mike Pollock accepted me on Facebook :D
I am honored
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+ Today's driving lesson was awsome :D
+ I found a retro game shop nearby, which opened recently as I heared know.
- Long hard day.
- Everyone in school is thinking I love that girl who asked me on a date before D: (I denied the offer some days later because I simple don't think I like her and something smells fishy about that thing)
+ Is going to get a Mega Drive soon :3
+ Played Sonic Classic Heroes with a friend today :D
-- I am getting the feeling that more and more the death of my favourite's uncle is nearing. He was like a father to me ;_;
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Let the others think what they want you should not care. And good job denying because you should never go with someone you don't like.

Oh, I hope your uncle will be alright :(
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Dark Lum Lord wrote:+ I feel good today, and I had yesterday too. Unlike earlier.
incognito wrote:If im Incognito that means i kill 1000 people everyday and that means there is not limit between reality and virtual.
You know, medicine for Schizophrenia exists.
I'm pretty sure he's talking about his avatar.
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Keane wrote:- I think I may be depressed, I'm not entirely sure, but I'm starting to lose my usual better moments and days and even when I do feel just okay it's more just me being distracted by a video game or something
Is there any persistent thought or nag going through your head that's preventing you from experiencing those better moments?
Keane wrote:- Might be attending counseling tomorrow. Honestly, I'm not really looking forward to it. One thing I know they do is keep a sort of list of other people with similar problems that "they can hook you up to" but I don't think forced interaction with someone *just because* their lonely too is anything more than really uncomfortable talking. Loneliness doesn't mean you're each others type, nor does forcing interaction lead to anything usually.
If they're following a procedure like that, then they clearly don't care as much as they could, which is why in most cases I don't find cheap counselling sessions of the sort to be helpful in the slightest. Of course, sometimes the wisdom of a long-time professional can be unmatched, but if they don't care enough or aren't very good at sharing said wisdom, then it's generally no-good.

Dark Lum Lord wrote:What's the point? I try, but no matter how much I do it never turns out right in the end - I just end up at square one again. What's there to live for if I have no freedom, if nobody truly gets me, if I have such poor social skills that I'm always the outsider, if there's nothing positive about me.
The amount of times you attempt something doesn't compare the the quality of the attempt. In order to find that freedom, you need to make that outrageous attempt that stands high above all the others. It doesn't matter how many times you try, it only matters how hard you eventually try.
Dark Lum Lord wrote:If there's nothing positive about this planet and human beings.
This is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard! Can you explain?
Dark Lum Lord wrote:You know, medicine for Schizophrenia exists.
But in incognito's world, medicine means taking four palm tree trunks, three raccoon nails and six and a half million pounds of salt and stuffing it up your asshole.
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Adsolution wrote:Is there any persistent thought or nag going through your head that's preventing you from experiencing those better moments?
I almost constantly have really troubling thoughts about the things I really feel I lack in my life, and I'll try to think about how to achieve any of that or even ask my parents and it always comes down to the fact that the situation is pretty fucked, as well as that my social issues may be a lot larger than just me being shy at this point. And usually I'm able to look at those things and think positively about how they'll eventually improve, or just forget about them for a while, but that doesn't happen anymore. I'm kind of constantly in either a shitty mood and when I'm not I still feel really mellow, I don't really laugh anymore.
Adsolution wrote:If they're following a procedure like that, then they clearly don't care as much as they could, which is why in most cases I don't find cheap counselling sessions of the sort to be helpful in the slightest. Of course, sometimes the wisdom of a long-time professional can be unmatched, but if they don't care enough or aren't very good at sharing said wisdom, then it's generally no-good.
Well, that's what I've heard, I'm not sure if that's the case. I'll have to see once I attend my first meeting. I imagine they'll also tell me to join after school activities but I really, really hope that they'll understand that I don't need more situations with other people, that's not the problem. The problem is that I'm both too introverted to talk and that my major trouble with friendships always is that I've never met anyone who enjoys even a single same thing as I do. The fact that my only friend shares my humour is baffling, most people seem to quickly think my interests are dull or my opinions/humour/thoughts are awkward.
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