Rayman Origins

[todpole]

I think Voodoo Mama was one of the few people that never that Jano was an evil monster.

[Master]

Erm, "that never that Jano?" Hmm, do you mean that you think Voodoo Mama was one of the few people that never thought that Jano was an evil monster?

[todpole]

Yes I do

[Master]

Hmm, in regards to Jano and Origins, well, anything goes, barring the First Nightmare factoid, Jano has no presence in Origins as far as I'm aware of.

[Eredin]

Never knew Rayman could be so famous... I was watching a Korean drama when suddenly there's a scene where a boy plays RO.... But strangely he's playing it on a PS4!

[OCG]

I KNEW it!
Rayman is famous in Korea (explains why was R3 released there but not in Japan sadly - I would prefer both releases)
Send me link to that Korean Drama and episode please.
As for playing on PS4, maybe Ubisoft will port Origins on PS4 too so it is like a small teaser/easter egg, or maybe ge was playing Back to Origins from RL. Whatever the case is, please send me the link. Thanks.

[Driller]

Whoa, does this means I'll love RO even more than R2TGE? Sounds hard to believe. oo

I never got this... why does kinda everyone loves R2 above R1?
I mean IMO R1 was way better, harder, and funnier...

Because R1 was an average, generic Platformer that only received lukewarm reviews and nobody cared about when it came out. R2 was the game that made Rayman a success, nailing 3D Platforming when the genre was still in its infancy and taking it to a new level through masterful game design. Frankly, most people wouldn't care (or even know) about R1 if R2 had never been made. The facts that R2 held the most critical acclaim out of any game in the series until RL came out, and that most of us became Rayman fans during the R2 era, say it all.

[Master]

On the contrary, I'm pretty sure Rayman 1 was the best selling PS1 title in the UK, Redderz. Make what you will of the platforming and the like, but I do think Rayman 1 has its merits, the soundtrack and the art style for instance.

[Driller]

Make what you will of the platforming and the like, but I do think Rayman 1 has its merits, the soundtrack and the art style for instance.

If the audio and art style are the only merits about R1 you can think of, that says a lot about how noteworthy its gameplay wasn't.

[OCG]

@Driller, Are you shitting me with that statememnt?
First of all, Rayman 1 is the BEST selling PS1 title in UK. People clearly cared about the game. That site you shared is bullshit. Rayman Legends has 18 reviews while R1 has 2 reviews only for PS1 version. Clearly unfair comparison. If both games had 18 reviews, Rayman 1 would win over RL without a doubt.
Gameplay in R1 was brilliant. It is definitely a good challange and art style, soundtrack and atmosphere only add even more. The story was simple but when you defeat Mr. Dark, all the satisfaction you feel...it's great. Oh, and I should also mention that Mr. Dark is the most requested villain to return in future game and that R1 HD Remake is the most requested remake in Rayman franchise. Get your facts straight Driller.

[Master]

Getting a little agitated there, OCG.

Hmm, would Rayman 1 trump Legends in this era when it comes to reviews? I personally doubt it, Legends has accessibility on its side, R1 is less forgiving towards newbies. That being said, I don't really want to debate R1's gameplay, as it seems to me that it's more down to the player, some find it pretty darn easy, others take a decade to beat it. I'll let the more R1-inclined have their say on that.

However, calling R1 insignificant is something I personally find a bit haughty. Like we've mentioned, it was a best-seller, which would imply the contrary, I doubt Ubi would be as keen to develop R2 if the finances had emerged otherwise. And on the topic of Rayman 2, while I think it's my favourite, I don't think it's the pinnacle of what the series is capable of, R3 had far better combat for instance (and I think The Longest Shortcut has some of the best platforming ideas in the series to date).

[OCG]

Getting a little agitated there, OCG.

Sorry Master, it just made me mad to see disrespect of R1 like that. I am totally cool if someone's personal opinion is for example that R1 is his least favourite in series, but I think Driller could have expressed himself on way better way. It would be different if sales of game were really bad and if it had some negative reviews (like Spyro Enter The Dragonfly for example), but it didn't. Imagine if someone said that Mario 64 is worst Mario game ever and that it sucks? Yes, it is not my favourite Mario game, yes I do think it is overrated, but I would never say it is the worst Mario game and I will always appreciate the game for what it did to Platformers and how it inspired many which are among my favourites.

Hmm, would Rayman 1 trump Legends in this era when it comes to reviews? I personally doubt it, Legends has accessibility on its side, R1 is less forgiving towards newbies. That being said, I don't really want to debate R1's gameplay, as it seems to me that it's more down to the player, some find it pretty darn easy, others take a decade to beat it. I'll let the more R1-inclined have their say on that.

Well, when it comes to difficulty, I don't find it that hard but it has really hard moments I admit. I think that all people who have more negatives to say about game than positives are the ones who have not beat the game and did not gave it fair chance since they found it too hard.

[Haruka]

@Driller Despite of becoming a Rayman fan in the year of 2000, the first game I had contact with the series was Rayman 1, and it was the game that made me fall in love with it. I tried out a demo of Rayman 2 in the same day since I was curious about its recent sequel.

[Dart]

Getting a little agitated there, OCG.

Hmm, would Rayman 1 trump Legends in this era when it comes to reviews? I personally doubt it, Legends has accessibility on its side, R1 is less forgiving towards newbies. That being said, I don't really want to debate R1's gameplay, as it seems to me that it's more down to the player, some find it pretty darn easy, others take a decade to beat it. I'll let the more R1-inclined have their say on that.

it didn't get to hard until picture city, but up until then it was really fun!

However, calling R1 insignificant is something I personally find a bit haughty. Like we've mentioned, it was a best-seller, which would imply the contrary, I doubt Ubi would be as keen to develop R2 if the finances had emerged otherwise. And on the topic of Rayman 2, while I think it's my favourite, I don't think it's the pinnacle of what the series is capable of, R3 had far better combat for instance (and I think The Longest Shortcut has some of the best platforming ideas in the series to date).

if I remember correctly both R1 and R2 were extreme boosts for ubisoft, putting them on the gaming map and creating a classic respectively. R2 IMO was a bit more scenic overall compared to R3, but I still (as you pointed out) prefer R3's combat. R3s biggest downfall is probably how short it is; the game would have greatly benefited with more development time.

[sonicbrawler182]

Rayman 1 is much like Crash 1, to me - the game is nothing special by today's standards in terms of level design and game mechanics (in terms of game mechanics, the game didn't do anything substanially new. Everything Rayman 1 did on the gameplay front was done as early as the NES days. The game feels like it's supposed to be a throwback to the NES era to me, just with higher production values than an NES game), and does feel very archaic to me, but it's still a good game and I can forgive it to some extent due to it being the first of a series that genuinely gets better and more innovative. I do think the game is fundamentally flawed in a lot of aspects, and a lot of the games challenge is either unfair or arbitrary, but it's still fun enough.

[Adsolution]

Am I the only one who didn't find Rayman 3 to be all that short? I can beat Rayman 2 faster.

Make what you will of the platforming and the like, but I do think Rayman 1 has its merits, the soundtrack and the art style for instance.

If the audio and art style are the only merits about R1 you can think of, that says a lot about how noteworthy its gameplay wasn't.

He said 'for instance', because those are its most notable/memorable traits. Praising one thing doesn't mean leaving another in the dust; it's not a weight scale, each category scales entirely on their own.

Frankly, most people wouldn't care (or even know) about R1 if R2 had never been made.

Despite Rayman 1 having become the best-selling PS1 game of all time in the UK even before the release of Rayman 2. You're really on top of things here.

Like Haruka as well, Rayman 1 was my first Rayman game, and I did find its incredible art design to be very substantial; there was virtually nothing else that looked as good as it did at the time. The gameplay was also one of the reasons I enjoyed it so much, because it was very tight and precise. Most action 2D platforming games aren't so 'zoomed in', you always cross distance relatively quickly. This game on the other hand offered nuance and detail, while providing very flexible and responsive character mechanics. You're a free character, but you need to focus and calculate. It's the kind of game where when you start out you suck, but you'll never stop improving.

One of the primary reasons I cannot denote the level design as unfair is because even though I've played the game for a decade and pretty much mastered every block of level design, I can get through even the most ridiculous expansion-game levels that I don't know well at all without getting damaged. I think that as long as you have a mastery on the mechanics and controls, you can beat any new level in fewer than two or three tries.

[Master]

Hmm, R3 has always felt shorter to me, but perhaps I ought to sit down and put that to the test one of these days.

[Eredin]

I KNEW it!
Rayman is famous in Korea (explains why was R3 released there but not in Japan sadly - I would prefer both releases)
Send me link to that Korean Drama and episode please.
As for playing on PS4, maybe Ubisoft will port Origins on PS4 too so it is like a small teaser/easter egg, or maybe ge was playing Back to Origins from RL. Whatever the case is, please send me the link. Thanks.

The links are blocked, sorry. But I can tell the name of it and describe the scene. The name of the drama is god's gift 14 days, During the second episode, A boy is holding a ps4 controller and his grandpa says "Jump!", then a 2 second gameplay of the gothic teensy in the desert of the didgerijafdiojfa(Sorry, forgot name but second world in RO), then back to normal drama.

[OCG]

Thanks for info. I found some links that are not blocked so I will share it with everyone:
http://www.dramago.com/korean-drama/god ... -episode-2
Playlist 3 works best for me and the scene is around 03:00

[_Maki]

I love the game. It's so simple, yet so beautiful. Really digging the art.
I'm also playing Rayman 2 at the moment, and all I can think about is drawing scenes from Rayman 2 using the Origins artstyle.

Can't be that hard, can it now?