Rayman 3 scores

[MandM81]

Hello 1234 and welcome to the forum. You don’t beat around the bush, but head straight to the heart of the matter.

Maybe you can introduce yourself in a few words? How long time have you played R3? What is your best total score? What are your scores in each level?

As for your questions:

1. Yes, the GW and PCM are banned from the HoF. If you want to use them in your own game it’s ok, just don’t enter a score into the HoF using these glitches.

2. I’ll leave that for PC players to answer.

3. RibShark gave a good explanation.

4. The best way to test this is to try to take the second yellow gem as late as possible. Pass it and stand in front of this yellow gem, so you take it as you run towards the first yellow gem on the wooden Matuvu path. When you’re in the right distance of this yellow gem, roll towards it.

5. I don’t think I have ever counted how many gems are left behind. But as far as I remember, you have to take 16 - 18 gems into your combo. I would have to open the game to get it more precisely.

6. I should refer you to those players who have incorporated the SJ into their game.

7. The Mushroom Trick, or Jona’s Trick as it is also referred to, is simply this: Jump up along the Mushroom while the Hoodblasters fire at you. When you get hit in the right way, you will be thrown high enough into the air to activate the Lockjaw.

8. That one is for PC players.

[RibShark]

7. The Mushroom Trick, or Jona’s Trick as it is also referred to, is simply this: Jump up along the Mushroom while the Hoodblasters fire at you. When you get hit in the right way, you will be thrown high enough into the air to activate the Lockjaw.

The method I described works for that as well, and does not take away any points.

Also, just saying that you all might want to discuss whether or not to allow the MGW in spots where it works in all versions including PC.

[1234]

Thanks for the welcome and for the very fast and good answers!

Sorry, but i don´t know what´s important for an introduction of myself. I´ll just try it.
I am 17 years old and from germany. I got the game about 10 years ago, where i played it some months, but without looking on the points. Over one year ago i just wanted to play the game again. Then i saw some videos of combos and i began to play for points and to look for combos. Until now i used especially MandMs description in the first page of this topic to improve my score, what was very helpful. So: Thanks MandM!

At the moment my points are:

FC: 43090
CF: 108529
BOM: 96480
LOTLD: 121099
DOTK: 109789
LS: 41010
SBTC: 110209
HH: 109009
TOTL: 104499
total: 843714


There are also some other questions, i would like to ask. Maybe i could get as many answers as before?

3.1: Why does the SJ work in some places easier than in other, also what is the difference between these places.
3.2: What is the best place to try a SJ?

9. In BOM5: Do someone have any tips for the Razoff Triple Glitch? Is there anything i must look for? I started this part about 3 weeks ago (i played also nearly 20 hours!) and i still haven´t succeeded in this combo. 3-5 times i was able to do a Double Glitch, but 89k after part5 are not enough, right?

10. I think it´s a stupid question: Has been found a possibility to skip the cutscenes, also for example Murphys long speech in FC? It´s boring to look some videos again and again.

11. In CF4: Last time there were always only 25 Hoodlums instead of 27, although i restarted the part quite often. Have i made anything wrong or was it just bad luck.

Thanks for the answers in advance.

[RibShark]

3.1: Why does the SJ work in some places easier than in other, also what is the difference between these places.
3.2: What is the best place to try a SJ?

9. In BOM5: Do someone have any tips for the Razoff Triple Glitch? Is there anything i must look for? I started this part about 3 weeks ago (i played also nearly 20 hours!) and i still haven´t succeeded in this combo. 3-5 times i was able to do a Double Glitch, but 89k after part5 are not enough, right?

10. I think it´s a stupid question: Has been found a possibility to skip the cutscenes, also for example Murphys long speech in FC? It´s boring to look some videos again and again.

11. In CF4: Last time there were always only 25 Hoodlums instead of 27, although i restarted the part quite often. Have i made anything wrong or was it just bad luck.

Thanks for the answers in advance.

3.1: SJ's tend not to work as well in fixed camera areas (where the camera moves less easily), but from my experience tend to work better when the camera is more zoomed out.
3.2: Some easy SJ's to try are at CF2, on the first wooden platform with the hoodlum, or in DotK1 on the platforms near the flying hooks.

10. Only full motion cutscenes (such as the doctor cutscenes) can be skipped. On consoles, press start, on PC, press the buttons E, S and C in that order. Some cutscenes can be avoided using superjumps and other glitches though.

[Maz]

I only joined recently myself, but welcome to the forums anyway!

I don't know which of, nor to what extent the questions have been answered already, so I'll just go ahead:

2. In FC4: How can i reach the upper level for the matuvu-combo? (I am playing on PC)
a) Can PC-Players use the usual way (jumping left)? If yes, do you have any tips for it?

Appearently, you can't jump as high on PC as on some other platforms. I wouldn't bet on it, but I tried it more than only a few times and it never worked for me. Maybe I did something wrong (would be nice to know about the other PC-Players' experiences), but I personally think you can't do it like that on PC.
I don't know whether a SJ is possible, though.

5. In FC6, the last combo: How many gems do i have to leave, to get the combo points added?

Despite my reluctance towards seriously trying to score big in CF, i experimented quite a bit with this one. I don't know whether there are platform differences, but the highest should be something around 460 Combo-Points... Meaning you should be able to take one or two gems after the second-to-last red gem (I think it was the second-to-last, I don't have the game available at the moment to look it up; you'll know which one I mean, though).

6. In CF1: Is it possible to take the yellow gems near the vortex and then a hoodlum in one combo? (Also taking the vortex, collecting the yellow gems on the way back and then killing a hoodlum in one combo)

I assume you want to use the teleportation glitch - otherwise, it would be impossible of course, since you can't get through the door unless you kill the Hoodlums (just wanted to point it out anyway ). I don't know anything about the teleportation glitch (safe for that one Youtube-Video which Cut kindly provided), but I guess when it comes down to it, just try it out yourself... I personally think that discovering ways to play the levels on your own is part of the fun of this game.

8. In BOM3: In the first pages i read something about a trick for PC, to keep the hoodlum survive. How does the trick work?

Again, I'm not a 100% sure about this, but I would agree with Xenon and say it's completely random.

As for that Hoodstomper-Combo, that happened to me as well - quite often. It seems like it's just bad luck, just restart.

Putting that aside, that's some really nice scores you have there!

[sfn42]

I'll try to answer some of the remaining questions, then .

2.) It should work on PC. Even though I don't play on PC, I know that PC-players have pulled it off. I used to struggle with that jump too (PS2, the platform I play on, has similar jumping problems as PC) but after a lot of practice I got it at some point. I can't really give any tips besides that, unfortunately, because it really was just trying again and again for me.

5.) I don't know the number of gems, because I've always been doing that jump instinctively, at some point I just knew when I had to jump off but if you do everything correctly in the whole part, you should get a maximum of exactly 7990 points, so maybe that helps you to calculate the number of gems you need to leave behind.

8.) As far as I know, you have to return to the desktop during the cutscene (by pressing Ctrl-Esc) and then the bullets of the muddibogs sometimes freeze, but I'm not 100% sure if this is really how it worked.

9.) There are no real tips for Razoff. It's one of the few parts that's mostly about luck. 89k after part are enough, though, it will just make part 6 a little more stressful.

11.) It happens sometimes, unfortunately. Sometimes a hoodlum gets killed during the cutscene, sometimes the hoodlums kill each other and sometimes a hoodlum or two won't appear in the arena (in those cases, you can usually find an invisible hoodlum in the cave where you jumped down after you kill all the hoodlums in the arena). This part, unfortunately, is also largely based on luck.

[MandM81]

So: Thanks MandM!

You're welcome!

SBTC: 110209 ... total: 843714

That's an impressive total score you have and also an impressive score in SBTC. Not many players can boast a score beyond 110k in this level.

Did you use the launching glitch on the edge in part 3, or did you get some extra kickflips by riding on the edge?

What level will you try to improve next?

[1234]

Good to see, that i´ve got so many answers, thanks to all!

To make it clearer, i will sum up the numbers of the left questions and i´ll also add some.

2b) and 2c)
to 2: Also jumping left should be possible on PC?

to the SJ (3.): RibShark, you said the SJ works in many places, also not everywhere, right. Do you know why not? Do you also know something about question 2c) (whether a SJ is possible in FC4 (for the Matuvu-combo)?

(6.))

to 9: Is it possible to hit Razoff 5 or 6 times?

12: In SBTC2: Is it possible to jump through the bridge (near the end) on PC?


It´s not important to me, but i saw in the HoF, that someone called "Fifo" has exactly the same score as Haruka. Of course that could just be random, but i think, that this is the same person, who was a short time Nr.1 in the HoF with 0 cages and over 900k, so i´m not sure. But how i said, it´s not important to me, i just wanted to inform you.

I only joined recently myself, but welcome to the forums anyway! ..... Putting that aside, that's some really nice scores you have there!

Thanks Maz!
I´m sure, you´ll reach the 800k soon, too. What levels do you want to play next, or what are you playing now to improve your score?

you should get a maximum of exactly 7990 points, so maybe that helps you to calculate the number of gems you need to leave behind.

Yes, it helped me, thanks! You have to take 17 gems and leave a yellow and a red gem.

That's an impressive total score you have and also an impressive score in SBTC. Not many players can boast a score beyond 110k in this level.Did you use the launching glitch on the edge in part 3, or did you get some extra kickflips by riding on the edge?What level will you try to improve next?

Thanks MandM!
I did the extra kickflips. After some hours i realized, that the launching glitch was simply to difficult for me. You used the more difficult variant, right?
As next i will try to succeed in 42500-43000 points in the LS and then maybe replay CF for the old maximal score. But at the moment i´m still playing BOM5.
What level you will try next to get 860k?

[RibShark]

Fifo is DEFINITELY not the same person as Haruka. The SJ doesn't work everywhere because of various factors. Different angles of platforms can cause Rayman to go sideways or straight downwards. SJ's do not work in fixed camera locations because the first-person camera takes too long to activate in those areas. I don't know the answer to any other questions, though. Sorry.

[Master]

Looking over it myself, Fifo has the exact same score as Haruka. Given past shenanigans, I'd like to demand an explanation. I'd expect the odds of such a coincidence to be pretty slim, and said past shenanigans only raise my suspicions.

[Maz]

What levels do you want to play next, or what are you playing now to improve your score?

The investigations concerning CF Part 2 are still going on, and then there's Part 3 to come, so I probably won't improve too much anytime soon.
Putting that aside, I'm going to go for the Maximum in TDOTK after finishing CF... there's a few things I'd like to test there as well. After that... well, my scores on the last 3 levels are pretty bad, but I'll decide on which to play afterwards. Hopefully I can get 800k soon as well!

Good luck with the Razoff Glitch, LS and CF! (You sure got all the "fun things" to play left, huh? )

[sfn42]

@Ribshark: Before I forget to ask again. You mentioned a couple of times that there are places where a glidewalk can be done on PC. Could you elaborate on that? So far, none of the PC players in our group have managed to pull a glidewalk off anywhere, so I'm really curious where it does work.

@1234:
9.) No, 4 hits is the maximum.

12.) No. The only platform that can realistically pull this combo off is Xbox. CC has mentioned that he has managed the jump once on GC, but not as part of the combo. I've never managed it on PS2 (and I don't think Xenon has either, although I can't be sure of that) and I've never heard of a PC-player who managed it.

I don't know about the other open questions.

[RibShark]

@Ribshark: Before I forget to ask again. You mentioned a couple of times that there are places where a glidewalk can be done on PC. Could you elaborate on that? So far, none of the PC players in our group have managed to pull a glidewalk off anywhere, so I'm really curious where it does work.

In certain fixed camera areas, you can GW. Try it near the start of HHQ1; after you reach the ground, move into the fixed camera area, tap first-person button, jump, activate helicopter, go into camera (snapshot) mode, hold jump + first-person buttons, leave camera mode (still holding the buttons). The GW will now activate, and you can release the first-person button. This does not often work if you have grabbed a ledge before attempting it, however (so usage is probably very limited).

[Fifo]

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[OCG]

Fifo, I want you to upload full walkthrough of R3 with PROOF that you got EXACT same score as Haruka. Unless you don't do that, I think you are cheating again.

[Haruka]

I demand explanations.

[Fifo]

[god I cringe at those posts]

[OCG]

And you managed to copy EVERY single move from her walkthrough flawless so you got same score? Prove it or it didn't happen.

[Fifo]

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[OCG]

Ok ok ok, you convinced me, that is exactly the proof I needed.

Not really. Record or I don't believe you because you cheated in past.