Rayman 3 scores

[1234]

At first, thanks a lot for the video, MandM. This trick is quite hard for me, so i´ll have to train it some time, but the rest (the combo) seems to be possible, so i think, i won´t need the triple glitch.

Thank you also MandM and Maz for this walkthrough. It is really impressive. It´s interesting how many points could be found only with creativity. Great praise to you!
After BOM and LS, i´ll maybe try to follow this walkthrough as good as possible to get something between 110k and 111k in CF, but it will be difficult.

One question to CF1, last combo: Could you start with the 4 yellow gems, send a curved fist to the piggybank with the red gem, break the two other piggybanks, take the gems, kill the hoodblaster on the box with one shot, collect the red gem and then continue the combo as known?
I think, that on this way you could maybe get 90 points more.

...but it is proving to be difficult with the time constraints I am currently dealing with - some of you may know I am in the process of moving to a different town with my partner, and thus switching jobs.

Good luck with that, Xenon! Hopefully your life will regularize soon and all this it not too stressful.

[Maz]

One question to CF1, last combo: Could you start with the 4 yellow gems, send a curved fist to the piggybank with the red gem, break the two other piggybanks, take the gems, kill the hoodblaster on the box with one shot, collect the red gem and then continue the combo as known?
I think, that on this way you could maybe get 90 points more.

I replayed Part 1 myself a few minutes ago, and that is indeed possible. Also, the Piggybank from the upper floor can be included. Sorry, I should have investigated Part 1 a bit more thouroughly before posting the walkthrough.

Good luck on your quest of passing 110k. Let me assure you that it will be quite an ordeal.

[GOT4N]

So that means the new walktrgouh of score is finally out ?
Ah by the way I can try to make videos fi you want on my GameCube with my AverMedia GameCapture Hd

[Maz]

As I said: Any support in providing videos is more than welcome - thanks for the offer!

So, if you have both time and motivation to do so, go ahead. I'd be happy about anything!

Note 3: With such a final Combo, the theoretical maximum would be 112.999 points, meaning this solution is around 1.400 points short. This doesn't have much of an impact on the scoring, but I figured I should mention it nonetheless. That being said, you should always look out for improvements yourself.

This is of course the walkthrough for now, but we'll try to further improve this score. Ideally, we would like to get that 112.999, but I guess that's still a long way off.

[GOT4N]

When reading them, they'll looks hard to do, I'll try though, :p
(but don't be surprised if I don't post XD)
Isi t a complete walktrough that will be completed or you just do CF?

[Maz]

Of course it's no problem if you can't do all of them, but even just one or two videos would be great, so thanks to you for going through this trouble!
It's sometimes hard to explain how to play a Combo with words alone.

I think a complete workover is not necessary. Maybe you should rather ask better players about that, but I personally think that - putting aside FC, CF and TOTL - there's not much to be improved as compared to the solutions on Page 1 (although I've had a few ideas for TDOTK, but after all this investigation in CF, I've not yet found the motivation to test these), and thus no walkthroughs safe for those 3 would have to be updated.

Important Edit!

I made an embarrassing mistake concerning my calculations, so I had to remodel (a.k.a update) Part 3. I made sure that there's no miscalculations this time. However, be aware of the fact that the final Combo in Part 3, while being the biggest in the whole game, is also one of, if not THE most annoying/difficult Combo in the game as well - the Hoodboom tends to either hit you with grenades, or - on rare occasions - kill himself.

[MandM81]

I am about to start another attempt at reaching a new maximum in TOTL. I will record all my findings. If you can manage to either beat my score or at least draw even, I will gladly provide a solution for the forum, since you are indeed my only concern right now, competition-wise.

I look forward to seeing your solutions.

[DTUCC]

well done man. screenshot first, though :p

nice work anyway!

[MandM81]

well done man.

Thanks! I'll post a screenshot that at the same time reveals my gaming strategy, namely to beat your score without using IPG. Still, I'm curious to see your solutions. I'm sure they will benefit many players.

I'm sorry about the quality, but the sun was shining relentlessly making the screen seem like a mirror.

[1234]

Congratulations for this very impressive score and for regaining the first place from the HoF.
Did you actually used the two launching glitches in CF1, if i may ask?

I myself am still playing BOM (part 3 took me quite a long time, because of 200 "extra points" from the first hoodblaster). But recently i finished part 5 with a double glitch and ~93300 points, so there is only part 6 left. To this part there are two things i would gladly like to know:
1: Are 101299 points possible? Has anyone reached this score?
2: Do anyone has some tips or tricks for hitting razoff 5/6 times? Is the angle, in which razoff is coming to the middle, important? If yes, what is the best angle?

Anyway, there is something funny i discovered in BOM4. It´s nothing great and maybe it´s also known, so don´t expect anything special:
When you are doing the SJ in part 4 ("with help" of the mushroom) and the jump is high enough, you´ll break through the ceiling and you´ll find yourself in a bog from BOM3. If you want to reach the land, the jump has to be quite high, otherwise you would die because of the bog.
If all that is already known: Has anyone tried to "finish" part 3, while playing actually part 4? What will happen then

[MandM81]

Thanks! I'll probably try to use the two SJs next time. It looks promising.

As for BOM part 6, I made a video many years ago on how to play the last can. The strategy used on the video is as following:

- You can hit Razoff on the wrecking ball five times before he destroys the can. I hit him 2 + 2 + 1 times. It could be 3 + 2 times if one needs more points.
- Hit him as many times as possible in the last series of hits.

The video is here.

Hitting him five times is not such a big deal, but hitting him six times is nearly impossible. There could be platform differences that makes it possible on one platform and not on another. I think Cut has done it, but you would have to ask him about the details.

I have never tried the SJ in part 4 myself. But your finding raises an interesting question. Can you really make a loop connecting two parts? It has to my knowledge never been done before. Can you make a video of this SJ that shows you landing in the bog in part 3, no matter if Rayman dies or not. And if he dies, will the game restart in part 3 or 4?

[1234]

@MandM: You said "nearly impossible"; so it should be possible - or not? Thanks for answers and for the video.

@Cut: Is your score in BOM 101299? If yes, is there a special trick for that or was it luck or whatever?

I have never tried the SJ in part 4 myself. But your finding raises an interesting question. Can you really make a loop connecting two parts? It has to my knowledge never been done before. Can you make a video of this SJ that shows you landing in the bog in part 3, no matter if Rayman dies or not. And if he dies, will the game restart in part 3 or 4?

Here is the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsG7nqnoUck
Unfortunately i wasn´t able to reach the island, but i think you´ll recognize this place. Maybe i´ll try to make a better video later.
If he dies, the game will restart in part 4.

[MandM81]

Thanks for the video. It's probably a curiousity more than an option for more points.

I say "nearly" impossible with all the reservations that includes. I have once or twice hit Razoff five times on the ball without him falling off. That suggests a sixth time should be possible. However, I have never managed to get that sixth shot in, so...

If Cut has done it, it's surely possible on PC. That's not saying it's possible on all platforms though. It could be down to the time frame settings on PC, I'm not sure.

[Xenon]

That's a remarkable glitch. I've never seen anything like it before. It sounds to me like it does open up a real opportunity for cheating, however, because presumably if you can enter part 3 (and survive) you can then re-enter part 4 and get those points again. Have you ever managed to survive or do you always drown?

With regards to part 6 TBOM, I've never managed to hit Razoff six times either, but I've always put it down to lack of patience. Frankly, I was quite inexperienced when I played that level and I remember being so shocked that I even hit him five times, that I settled for it. Playing that part, you have to make a split decision at the end whether or not to accept a lower score (as it quickly enters into cinematic), and I didn't really have a game plan!

And congrats to MandM too, of course

[MandM81]

Thanks!

I was thinking the same thing with this loop. Why not go back to part 3 and collect the objects in part 4 once again? I guess though, that you lose the points gained in part 4 when you die in part 3. But if you can manage to survive and finish the part, the sky is the limit, or at least 119k points is the limit in BOM.

[PluMGMK]

CheatCat discovered the link between part 3 and part 4 a long time ago (but using cheats, obviously ) and it seems that the states are saved, so that probably wouldn't be possible…

[1234]

Have you ever managed to survive or do you always drown?

No, i´ve never survived, but i didn´t really spend time to do so (except of 5-10 minutes, where i was making the video). Maybe i´ll try it this evening.
In case of a improbable success, i could post a video (if there will happen something special).

CheatCat discovered the link between part 3 and part 4 a long time ago (but using cheats, obviously ) and it seems that the states are saved, so that probably wouldn't be possible…

Thank you for the information PluMGMK, but i still would like to try it myself, just out of curiosity and just to make sure, that this glitch couldn´t be misused.

To BOM: Hitting razoff 6 times would be maybe too hard, so i decided to take the 100899 points and to play finally another level. The next will be the LS, but perhaps also CF. The problem is, that i didn´t find the place, from where you can take the matuvu through the wall. Anyway, if i will succeed in one of this new combos in CF, i could post a video for the walkthrough, but don´t expect to much.
In LS there is also a problem, too: After "defeating" the shoe, rayman is not doing his victory dance, but he (and unfortunately the combo time, too) is running immediately after the last "shoe-hit". Do someone know why?

[MandM81]

It would be cool to see more videos from the BOM part 3 & 4 incident, especially if you manage to reach dry land.

I'll try to make a video of the Matuvu through the wall. It may take a little time for me to do so.

I think I know the problem in LS. It marred me too and for a long time I couldn't figure out why the victory dance didn't happen. Finally I found out why. I had developed a habit of jumping on to the Shoe, and I did it every time. When I changed that habit and instead ran into it without jumping, the victory dance came back. What a silly thing.

Hope it will solve your problem.

[Hunchman801]

Congratulations MandM on your staggering improvement!

[rolesfamily]

Well done to Mand, nice to see you back up there buddy. When I signed up to this place you were #1!