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Re: Rayman 3 scores

Post by PluMGMK »

Stupid question: have you changed to a new keyboard? Some keyboards spaz out when you press certain combos. I've had your first problem for years, since I started using a keyboard that came with a HP Compaq PC. Before that, I never had such problems.
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No, since i don´t own a normal PC, i´m playing on my old laptop (a HP), so i cannot change to a new keyboard.
If you think, that this problems occured just recently (since you asked about a keyboard change): I had them from the beginning.
In case i have the problems, because of a non functional keyboard, do you know, how i can solve these errors, without changing to a new pc or keyboard?

One thing i forgot to mention about problem 3: When i´m pressing the strafe button, charging a fist and then trying to go forwards or backwards again and again, it works at some point. The problem is, that i don´t have so many time while playing a combo. :P
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hahaha wtf

anyway, nice to see that you guys managed to put some serious combos together in TOTL. I find it kinda crazy to put such effort in such a "little" improvement (also that differneces in the number of hoodflyers in the end is absolutely shit again from the game...) but in the end you guys are fine with that anyway so whatever
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Yeah, I guess some of the videos still need to be worked on. :P

Thanks I guess, but out of interest, I recall a 105.369 being mentioned... could you please tell us how on earth that would be possible? We both tested Part 3 thouroughly, and it was either 41 or 49 Hoodflyers on XBox and PC (although we never managed to actually get the 49 working), but neither leads to such a Score. Is it groups of 3 and 46 on some consoles instead of 8 and 41?
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Re: Rayman 3 scores

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1234 wrote:If you think, that this problems occured just recently (since you asked about a keyboard change): I had them from the beginning.
Oh sorry, I saw the words "last few weeks" in your post and jumped to conclusions. :oops2:
In case i have the problems, because of a non functional keyboard, do you know, how i can solve these errors, without changing to a new pc or keyboard?
As far as I know, it's impossible to change what key combos a keyboard can handle. :(
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i would have to recount them since i got this score like october last year or something but i remember that PC has 46 hoodflyers (and GC has the least). Maybe I did something horribly wrong and you guys are comboiong a group of hoodflyers i never realized as possible or big enough but since we quickly went on to pass 100k in part 2 we never put many thoughts on that how-many-hoodflyers-thing.
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That's... interesting, so to say. I Play on PC as well, but I only have 41 Hoodflyers.
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Cut wrote:anyway, nice to see that you guys managed to put some serious combos together in TOTL. I find it kinda crazy to put such effort in such a "little" improvement ... but in the end you guys are fine with that anyway so whatever
Since we don't intend to use the IPG, it's the kind of improvement we can get. Our effort is not wasted at all as we have laid the ground work for those who actually do wish to play with the IPG. Perhaps we, for the sheer fun of it, will make an IPG walkthrough for part 2.
Cut wrote:...but i remember that PC has 46 hoodflyers (and GC has the least). Maybe I did something horribly wrong and you guys are comboiong a group of hoodflyers i never realized as possible or big enough but since we quickly went on to pass 100k in part 2 we never put many thoughts on that how-many-hoodflyers-thing.
Well, I can get 41 Hoodflyers as shown on the video, so pc players have an advantage there. I guess that partly makes up for the Lums glitch. I'm not familiar with the GC platform, but are you saying there are less than 41 comboable Hoodflyers?

As for platform differences, our walkthrough shows that the Lums glitch provides a difference of around 6000+ points in the total score. It has no scoring significance for the Hoodflyer "maximum" but it must have a huge impact when using the IPG.

That is, using the IPG, console players can obtain a significantly higher maximum than pc players. I wonder why you haven't addressed this issue instead of focusing on the number of Hoodflyers?

Will you and Mountain Goat ever be able to match CCs almost 117k score in TOTL?
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MandM81 wrote:As for platform differences, our walkthrough shows that the Lums glitch provides a difference of around 6000+ points in the total score. It has no scoring significance for the Hoodflyer "maximum" but it must have a huge impact when plating with the IPG.
Huge impact is what you define as huge impact. It makes a huge difference in difficulty but the IPG glitches the lums in a way in which you can't get a lums glitch usually (on some very rare occasions or under the right conditions it's still possible) so everyone is able to achieve the same score in TOTL. For PC it's way more difficult but imo that's acceptable if the result stays the same.
MandM81 wrote:That is, using the IPG, console players can obtain a significantly higher maximum than pc players. I wonder why you haven't addressed this issue instead of focusing on the number of Hoodflyers?
Don't talk about stuff you don't know shit about. Seriously, this pisses me off. Most arguments about the IPG could have been cut down if people would have informed theirselves. The IPG maximum is the same for every platform. I really don't want to offend you but please, just put an "I believe" before your sentence and everything is fine.

My TOTL score is 116.333 but i never updated my HoF score since I don't really care
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Sorry for interrupting but it is since a very good while that I haven't been following the discussion but it is impressive to see that MandM is back to first place with a new score. :D Congratulations!

And it seems that Maz and 1234 are two new masters of the game.

I guess I missed a lot of things since the last time I checked this.
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Haruka wrote:Sorry for interrupting but it is since a very good while that I haven't been following the discussion but it is impressive to see that MandM is back to first place with a new score. :D Congratulations!
Thanks!
Cut wrote:Don't talk about stuff you don't know shit about. Seriously, this pisses me off. Most arguments about the IPG could have been cut down if people would have informed theirselves. The IPG maximum is the same for every platform. I really don't want to offend you but please, just put an "I believe" before your sentence and everything is fine.
Well, we know enough to better your score in TOTL if we ever chose to use the IPG.
Cut wrote:My TOTL score is 116.333 but i never updated my HoF score since I don't really care
We don't really care either if you wish to use the HoF or not. And your personal attacks are fuel for my motivation, so keep it coming. :D
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I guess then everybody is totally fine. A long time ago since we had that :)
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Haruka wrote: And it seems that Maz and 1234 are two new masters of the game.
Why thank you, but I still have a long way to go. If you find the motivation to improve yourself - we'll be waiting for you at the top! :D
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Aye, good work, Maz! I hope to get my ass higher up there as well at some point.
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Cut wrote:I guess then everybody is totally fine. A long time ago since we had that :)
Yeah, we're all fine.

Anyway, looking at your score in TOTL I suppose you're the top German player at the moment. Congratulations!
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Re: Rayman 3 scores

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PluMGMK wrote: As far as I know, it's impossible to change what key combos a keyboard can handle. :(
Ah too bad, so i guess i´ll have to cope with it. Thank you anyway for the informations. :)
Haruka wrote:And it seems that Maz and 1234 are two new masters of the game.
Thanks. Why don´t you try to improve your score again too? Who knows, maybe you could reach 800k as well. Would be nice to see you there. :)
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nice work guys, the combos are looking fine.

guess our months long argument was good for something in the end, haha. i don't know if those solutions for CF und TOTL would have happened without it. i'm excited to see whats coming next :)
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No, I don't think so either. That's the positive aspect of those arguments. :)

As for CF, it turned out to be possible to find a new maximum score without SJs. But no-one really looked for it. The SJs are of course cool and put the icing on the cake.

As for TOTL, I guess no-one would really bothered playing for a minor improvement in TOTL using the Hoodflyer Combo. I think I will do it though. If anyone chooses to use the IPG I guess a few more improvements in part 1 would be needed compared to our walkthrough.

May I ask, how big a Hoodflyer Combo can you get on GC? There seems to be some questions about this combo on various platforms. On Xbox I can get 41 Hoodflyers in a combo of 4.620.
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it's quite funny you ask, because the hoodflyers are what actually made higher scores happen in TOTL in the first place. when we started investigating TOTL we were looking for a hoodflyer maximum and ended up where you guys are now - with different maximums for each platform. in fact, the hoodflyer "maximum" for GC is around 104.1XX points (don't remember the exact values), leading towards even bigger platform issues than there were before. just imagine how upset i was back then, haha.
i don't remember the exact number, i think it was 37 or 39, but the point is, the hoodflyer max on gc is actually lower than the xowar maximum.

that's what actually made me completely revise TOTL in the first place, leading to a green gem maximum i don't remember, but i think i ended up with a 107k points solution i never played b/c then suddenly the ipg came up and brought a whole new twist to the level. long story short, there's still some work to do ;)

i've been looking into CF 1 a bit lately. some minor things so far. i will update as soon as i have any finds.
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I fear that the 800000 points is an impossible milestone, by the simple reason that I'm not really that good to control Rayman. It would require a much higher capacity of control, which I really don't have.

I would like to reach the 600000 points though, but it hasn't been really easy to get those 40000 extra points. ^^'
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