Something Bothering you?/Daily Doldrums

[Adsolution]

Yeah, I heard about that. Now imagine if there was a mission where you had to cut off someone's breasts, Rockstar's studios would be covered in bras and then burnt to the ground.

[Rayfist]

So, "feminists" in Australia have succeeded in pulling Grand Theft Auto V off of shelves at both Target & Kmart stores.

Their reason? You can hurt female NPCs and hire prostitutes in the game and that supports female abuse. You can kill make NPCs too but obviously that isn't important to them. And forget that mission where you smash some guy's testicles for torture.

These "feminazis" (not to be confused with feminists who don't pull this shit) are the worst fucking people.

It's a fucking videogame people, get the fuck over it, fucking stupid people like Anita Sarkeesian who made this whole "feminism" in videogames fad really just need to be hit.

[Adsolution]

And not only hit, but hit by a real woman/(man).

[Bradandez]

Wait, if they're the feminazis, does that mean we're the femijews?

[Serza5]

It's a fucking videogame people, get the fuck over it, fucking stupid people like Anita Sarkeesian who made this whole "feminism" in videogames fad really just need to be hit.

Oh do not worry, enough people threaten to kill her for you to satisfy your stupid ass rage over someone crtisicing a video game for it's blatant sexism.

EDIT : I must ask; why are people like you lot so darn pissy over women complaining about sexism in video games? I will admit the GTA case is extreme but gee whizz point out the fact that GTA does, in fact, show women in a negative light through prostitution and you lot shit yourselves.

[Bradandez]

This isn't criticism, this is straight out censorship.

EDIT: Now I'm really going to get in this. First off, blatant sexism for showing women in a negative light because of prostitution? Give me a fucking break. Prostitution is when the person is WILLINGLY to have sex in exchange of value/currency. How's that sexism? The people who are doing are doing this by choice. What, are prostitutes some sort of fucking mythical creature made up by cis-white straight males and been passed down generations?

Secondly, these fucking cunts are only looking at what they want to see and complain about. NEWS FLASH! Not only can you harm females in the game, but males too! And online, guess what! You can play as a female online and do the same fucking thing! Let me guess, if it where a female protagonist killing a bunch of males, it's all fine and dandy! Oh, it's promoting women abuse to the younglings? A. The women who bought the game for their wee babes are the one to blame because they're too fucking retarded to look at the god-damn box and see the gosh-darn rating. B. Yes, the promotion of beating women. Yeah, because I know right after I massacre dozens and dozens of NPCs GTA V, I wanna start my car, go to the nearest crowd of people, and start a good ol' killing spree.

And this brings my last bit, IT'S A FUCKING VIDEO GAME. It's not real. It's not gonna affect anyone. It's not promoting sexism. It's not gonna come to life and go "BOOGIDY BOOGIDY BOO MISOGYNY!" This "sexism" shit is fucking bullshit. These fucking extremists are only doing this for themselves to make them feel like they're actually doing good in the world. They're fucking not. There are so many other problems in the world that are actually worth doing something about, but yet these fucking bitches rather do this. The only thing they're doing is censorship. That's where it becomes a problem, so cut out that "criticism"bullshit. Just because you don't like something, doesn't mean you have to get so fucking offended. There's an easier solution! It's called ignoring! A joke that you find offensive, ignore it. Some tumblr post is stupid and retarded, ignore it. Someone is getting assualted? Don't ignore that shit. See there's times where it's okay and times when it's not. And this one of those times. This game is something these cunts can ignore, not fucking censor anything they don't agree with. Don't fucking ruin the party if you're not having fun.

I hate seeing this kind of shit anywhere, mostly on Tumblr because those dickwads can't handle shit for nothing. I myself hate getting into this kinda shit and ignore (hey, look at that!) it very frequently because I know better. It's just an argument that's gonna drag on and on. I gave my two-cents and I'll leave it at that. I'll be here when they stop being such fucking pussies and suck it up.

[Adsolution]

EDIT : I must ask; why are people like you lot so darn pissy over women complaining about sexism in video games?

Who the hell said that? Legitimate criticism is always welcome, getting a game banned off the shelves for illegitimate criticism is not. These feminazis are no different from the people in the US government trying to fuck with our internet, they should both be put in correctional facilities.

[Bradandez]

Ah fuck, Ad. You made a new post and now no one will see my edited response. ;n;

[beebo44]

So there's been a bunch of petitions made in response to the one that removed GTA V from Target's (and now Kmart's!) store shelves. This one has been catching quite a bit of popularity: le change.org link

[Bradandez]

Oh yeah. You live where it happened.

Blame Australia!
Blame Australia!

[beebo44]

D: Please no

[MrMcMelonLord]

It's a fucking videogame people, get the fuck over it, fucking stupid people like Anita Sarkeesian who made this whole "feminism" in videogames fad really just need to be hit.

Oh do not worry, enough people threaten to kill her for you to satisfy your stupid ass rage over someone crtisicing a video game for it's blatant sexism.

EDIT : I must ask; why are people like you lot so darn pissy over women complaining about sexism in video games? I will admit the GTA case is extreme but gee whizz point out the fact that GTA does, in fact, show women in a negative light through prostitution and you lot shit yourselves.

If you think about it, this game isn't sexist against woman at all. It's the people who play it that are. Just because there is an option to perform sexual acts with woman and kill them doesn't make the game sexist against woman. Pretty much the entire game involves you having to kill MEN or doing some other criminal acts anyway. Although, I feel threatening to kill someone is a little bit of an over reaction for a video game. It's not like there aren't any other stores selling it.

[Rayfist]

It's a fucking videogame people, get the fuck over it, fucking stupid people like Anita Sarkeesian who made this whole "feminism" in videogames fad really just need to be hit.

Oh do not worry, enough people threaten to kill her for you to satisfy your stupid ass rage over someone crtisicing a video game for it's blatant sexism.

EDIT : I must ask; why are people like you lot so darn pissy over women complaining about sexism in video games? I will admit the GTA case is extreme but gee whizz point out the fact that GTA does, in fact, show women in a negative light through prostitution and you lot shit yourselves.

satisfy your stupid ass rage

A little uncalled for, no?

It's not criticism anymore, it's outright dictating, she's been a proven con artist yet you people blatantly defend her over the most trivial things, not really doing any research on the type of person she is. You guys just take it "Oh, people disagree with her, MISOGYNY!"

Do you people even realize what GTA is trying to portray? The ghetto, and in REAL life, there are such things as prostitutes. You can kill men in the game too in the same way you can kill women, it's a ridiculously childish argument.

There are countries where women don't have these rights yet apparently the biggest thing to argue about is videogames and the way you're portrayed.

BTW: Just to clarify, I don't want Anita dead, but I'd love someone to knock some sense into her, not hit but just, I dunno, make her disappear off the earth?

I really just know I'm gonna regret going against a mod's opinion, but I really think some people are misunderstanding just how bad Anita really is.

[OCG]

Oh do not worry, enough people threaten to kill her for you to satisfy your stupid ass rage over someone crtisicing a video game for it's blatant sexism.

EDIT : I must ask; why are people like you lot so darn pissy over women complaining about sexism in video games? I will admit the GTA case is extreme but gee whizz point out the fact that GTA does, in fact, show women in a negative light through prostitution and you lot shit yourselves.

Anita is just attention whore who finds pointless shit to complain about just for cash and fame. It's just a video game and not real life. These feminists should focus on real life problems how are women treated and not just bunch of pixels. GTA shows both women and men in a negative light. People are angry at feminists because it is killing gaming and feminists want male video game culture to die. This woman explains it all:

[saerleiya]

Also, considering it from a financial point of view, this game costs tons of money (several hundred million dollars if I am correct). I find it weird that Rockstar would not consider the sexism thingy at some point. They probably made a complete series of test about the overall feeling of certain elements of the game with random people and took their feedback into account. Plus, they made such an insane amount of advertisement for this game, I doubt this game is still not that unknown (example: in Paris' subway stations, there were GTA V posters absolutely everywhere...first time I saw that happening for a single video game).

About the feminazis thing, I know they can feel offended, but as said Bradandez, I'd say that they have enough time they could put into more real, concrete sexism happening in smaller companies between men and women, and about women getting beaten up by their husbands. Because this is going to happen every single day, no matter which video game will be released. GTA V is a game with violence and stigmatization in it, not where violence and stigmatization are directed only towards women.

Just let's focus on putting women and men on equal footing, rather than putting one of them before the other (and not only in the way which had been the most obvious one for the last past millenaries).

[Rayfist]

Just let's focus on putting women and men on equal footing, rather than putting one of them before the other (and not only in the way which had been the most obvious one for the last past millenaries).

Thus, this is where the problem begins, it's all about equality, right? Well Anita doesn't want that, it's getting to the point where she's demanding higher superiority. That isn't equality, that in itself is sexist.

[Adsolution]

I find it weird that Rockstar would not consider the sexism thingy at some point.

I'm sure they did.

[Bradandez]

I agree with Rayfist. We don't want Anita dead, we just want her to stop being relevant and stop being viewed as a feminist leader, because obviously she's not one.

[Serza5]

Hm, let's see if I can break some of this down.

This isn't criticism, this is straight out censorship.

I did say that I do believe the case with GTA to be extreme and nor do I believe the censorship to be the right cause of action towards achieving equality. Not saying much more here as i'll cover some of that later.

EDIT: Now I'm really going to get in this. First off, blatant sexism for showing women in a negative light because of prostitution? Give me a fucking break. Prostitution is when the person is WILLINGLY to have sex in exchange of value/currency. How's that sexism? The people who are doing are doing this by choice. What, are prostitutes some sort of fucking mythical creature made up by cis-white straight males and been passed down generations?

Did you know that these are game characters who have no say over what they are? Funny that. My problem is not the fact they're prostitutes, it's that it's all they are; prostitutes. These characters usually have little to no other sort of personality and all they are in these sort of games is something to gawk at and kill if you so wish. Do you also notice how male prostitutes are a thing and yet aren't present in any of these games? Nice representation there.

Secondly, these fucking cunts are only looking at what they want to see and complain about. NEWS FLASH! Not only can you harm females in the game, but males too! And online, guess what! You can play as a female online and do the same fucking thing! Let me guess, if it where a female protagonist killing a bunch of males, it's all fine and dandy! Oh, it's promoting women abuse to the younglings? A. The women who bought the game for their wee babes are the one to blame because they're too fucking retarded to look at the god-damn box and see the gosh-darn rating. B. Yes, the promotion of beating women. Yeah, because I know right after I massacre dozens and dozens of NPCs GTA V, I wanna start my car, go to the nearest crowd of people, and start a good ol' killing spree.

I was about to say I was ok with this until I read the bottom point a bit more. You see, you may have the sense to know this is a video game and be like "Yeah I shouldn't do this shit in real life" but there are in fact, stupid people, who do not know any better and will take influence from a video game, especially younger ones (Who I won't deny shouldn't be getting these games in the first place but then again, if they really want to go on a "killing spree" after that then isn't that shitty parenting for not telling them that doing such is bad?). Ok so it's not the video game's fault in itself but the problem is the fact that there's a distinct lack of games that do not have strong female characters and by strong I mean ones that are not there to be sex objects or killing spree objects. Now just to emphasise; I AM NOT SAYING THERE ARE NOT GAMES WITH NO STRONG FEMALE CHARACTERS I AM SAYING THAT THERE IS A LOT MORE GAMES THAT DO NOT.

And this brings my last bit, IT'S A FUCKING VIDEO GAME. It's not real. It's not gonna affect anyone. It's not promoting sexism. It's not gonna come to life and go "BOOGIDY BOOGIDY BOO MISOGYNY!" This "sexism" shit is fucking bullshit. These fucking extremists are only doing this for themselves to make them feel like they're actually doing good in the world. They're fucking not. There are so many other problems in the world that are actually worth doing something about, but yet these fucking bitches rather do this. The only thing they're doing is censorship. That's where it becomes a problem, so cut out that "criticism"bullshit. Just because you don't like something, doesn't mean you have to get so fucking offended. There's an easier solution! It's called ignoring! A joke that you find offensive, ignore it. Some tumblr post is stupid and retarded, ignore it. Someone is getting assualted? Don't ignore that shit. See there's times where it's okay and times when it's not. And this one of those times. This game is something these cunts can ignore, not fucking censor anything they don't agree with. Don't fucking ruin the party if you're not having fun.

I like how you pulled out the "there's worse in the world" card because oh no- there are people being assaulted we must drop every other issue in the world so we can focus on that. No that's not how it works and i'm amazed you pulled that one. Of course there is much worse including actual assault but maybe, just maybe if there was- say less violence against women in video games that there might be people going "hey you know what? this assaulting thing is rather shitty because our games don't show that in a good light anymore".

@ General Anita comments : I will say this now; I am not a full supporter of Anita herself. I do not like the way she is handling these topics either but I am not the one sitting her talking about how she should be "hit" or "dead". Would I like her to get a better understanding on how to handle these topics? Yes but I fail to see (beyond that GTA V incident) how she has done anything so atrociously bad that deserves such remarks.

TL;DR : I do think that the way being feminism being handled in gaming is not 100% perfect but the way you people put it here really irked me last night and still sorta do now.

[Jewish Candy]

Right, I'm gonna put it down here that I completely agree with Serza.

I won't write any more than that, and it's not for lack of things to say: right now I am not in remotely the right state, emotionally or mentally, to make a proper post on this. I know better than to say a thing when I'm not going to be able to handle any kind of response; if I contribute to an argument, I'm in it for the long haul, and it's not going to be healthy for me to be in this particular one for the long haul. However I don't like to see Serz appear alone here when I'm totally on board - I cannot stand in complete silence.

I would appreciate it if people respected this (you're all good people so I'm sure you will), and also realised the effect that choice of language can have on women who have indeed been hit more times than they can count "by a real woman/(man)".

Do NOT use me or those like me as part of your 'appeal to worse problems'.