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Re: EU

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:16 pm
by spiraldoor
I listen to NewsTalk most nights...

Re: EU

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 1:04 pm
by PluMGMK
I just heard that Poland ratified it. This just leaves the Czech Republic... :(

Re: EU

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 1:30 pm
by Haruka
PluMGMK wrote:I just heard that Poland ratified it.
I just heard that news too.

Re: EU

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 3:14 pm
by spiraldoor
PluMGMK wrote:I just heard that Poland ratified it. This just leaves the Czech Republic... :(
@Democracy: Owned!

Re: EU

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 1:54 pm
by PluMGMK
spiraldoor wrote:
PluMGMK wrote:I just heard that Poland ratified it. This just leaves the Czech Republic... :(
@Democracy: Owned!
Hey, you'd be one of the victims too if that happened. Unless you're secretly planning to take over something or other.

Re: EU

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 3:09 pm
by spiraldoor
PluMGMK wrote:
spiraldoor wrote:
PluMGMK wrote:I just heard that Poland ratified it. This just leaves the Czech Republic... :(
@Democracy: Owned!
Hey, you'd be one of the victims too if that happened.
Yeah? And?

Re: EU

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 3:26 pm
by PluMGMK
I cannot grasp the stupidity of that post. You are just trying (and succeeding) to annoy me.

Re: EU

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 3:45 pm
by spiraldoor
PluMGMK wrote:You are just trying (and succeeding) to annoy me.
No I am not.

Re: EU

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 3:48 pm
by PluMGMK
Well, you're annoying me anyway. :x

Re: EU

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:37 am
by Haruka
Hold on a minute, afterall can someone explain to me what is that all bad about the Lisbon Treaty?

Re: EU

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:12 pm
by PluMGMK
Apparently, Irish voting rights in Europe will be decreased, democracy as a whole will be negatively affected, etc. However, Spiral's idea that it will federalise the EU is incorrect. I bet you 1000 Tings.

Re: EU

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 5:36 pm
by Tobbe
PluMGMK wrote:Apparently, Irish voting rights in Europe will be decreased, democracy as a whole will be negatively affected
Irish voting rights won't be decreased, as far as I know. The Lisbon Treaty will just make it easier for the Council of Ministers to gain qualified majority without Ireland's support. To me this doesn't negatively affect democracy at all, since the Irish population constitutes less than 1% of the total population of the EU.

Re: EU

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 5:41 pm
by PluMGMK
Tobbe wrote:
PluMGMK wrote:Apparently, Irish voting rights in Europe will be decreased, democracy as a whole will be negatively affected
Irish voting rights won't be decreased, as far as I know. The Lisbon Treaty will just make it easier for the Council of Ministers to gain qualified majority without Ireland's support. To me this doesn't negatively affect democracy at all, since the Irish population constitutes less than 1% of the total population of the EU.
Lucky you to have a neutral viewpoint. Here in Ireland, we kept getting bombarded with propaganda from the Yes and No sides.

Re: EU

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 5:44 pm
by Tobbe
That happened in Norway too in '72 and '94 when we voted against joining the EU. The 'NO-side' always screams the loudest during these propaganda wars, and it's always easier for them to win, even though they might have a much worse case than the 'yes-side'.

Re: EU

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 5:55 pm
by spiraldoor
PluMGMK wrote:
Tobbe wrote:
PluMGMK wrote:Apparently, Irish voting rights in Europe will be decreased, democracy as a whole will be negatively affected
Irish voting rights won't be decreased, as far as I know. The Lisbon Treaty will just make it easier for the Council of Ministers to gain qualified majority without Ireland's support. To me this doesn't negatively affect democracy at all, since the Irish population constitutes less than 1% of the total population of the EU.
Lucky you to have a neutral viewpoint. Here in Ireland, we kept getting bombarded with propaganda from the Yes and No sides.
Every single poster I saw (both pro- and anti-Lisbon) was a blatant lie. It was kind of amusing, in a way.