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Re: Unpopular opinions on Rayman

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2024 1:29 pm
by Hunchman801
The Jonster wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2024 6:32 pm You know what’s funny? I actually used to hate this level! Now I have no issue with it though it’s still my least favorite sanctuary (unless you could count that sad place where the mask in the Iron Mountains is in Revolution as one)
I've said that many times, but I actually hated it at first! It just grew on me. :proud:
dr_st wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2024 7:55 pm Here's an unpopular opinion: The Sanctuary of Stone and Fire is not the best level in the Rayman Universe. :lol:
Blasphemy! :pascontent:

I don't think it's that unpopular though, surely a lot of people like it, but many hate it too and a bunch of others might either like it but prefer others or simply feel neutral about it. Maybe that's a poll to add to the next edition of the Favourite Rayman Game Survey? It would have a contain a ridiculous number of options though.
Master wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2024 9:56 pm I'm still kinda surprised that SoSaF is popular, it always came across as that "one" level that kinda dragged to me - maybe it's cause I first played the PS1 version which had 4/5 (I can't remember exactly) levels in one as opposed to the 3 in regular Rayman 2.
Blasphemy! :pascontent:

Speaking of which, it's pretty interesting how different this level is in the PlayStation version. I still prefer the original layout, but I also like what they did in that version. One more reason to like it. :lol:

Re: Unpopular opinions on Rayman

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2024 1:31 pm
by Greengoop
Hunchman801 wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 1:29 pm Maybe that's a poll to add to the next edition of the Favourite Rayman Game Survey? It would have a contain a ridiculous number of options though.
I doubt that’s coming anytime soon, especially considering Dave hasn’t showed up for a few weeks :pfff:

Re: Unpopular opinions on Rayman

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2024 2:27 pm
by Master
Wait I thought Fifo was in charge of the Survey?

Re: Unpopular opinions on Rayman

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2024 2:28 pm
by Greengoop
Oh yeah, I was thinking about the poll thread :boon:

Re: Unpopular opinions on Rayman

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2024 8:01 pm
by lyndo64
Unpopular(?) opinion, I don't think Rayman should have a girlfriend.

Re: Unpopular opinions on Rayman

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2024 8:18 pm
by Greengoop
Unpopular opinion: “raymanian” shouldn’t mean “goofy”. I know ive been supporting the Ubi-Art games a lot lately, but saying something is a better rayman game based on how goofy it is is stupid

Re: Unpopular opinions on Rayman

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2024 8:57 pm
by The Jonster
lyndo64 wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 8:01 pm Unpopular(?) opinion, I don't think Rayman should have a girlfriend.
No you're right, he definitely shouldn't have a girlfriend. Or at any rate, one that tries to cut his hair and kill all the hair creatures. :P

Re: Unpopular opinions on Rayman

Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2024 6:58 am
by Greengoop
The idea of rayman having a girlfriend just makes the series more unappealing. Imagine if Mario had a girlfriend and still tried to defeat bowser?

Re: Unpopular opinions on Rayman

Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2024 6:24 pm
by The Jonster
Princess Peach exists. Uhh and so does Pauline, at any rate.

Re: Unpopular opinions on Rayman

Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2024 6:47 pm
by Greengoop
Princess Peach isn’t his girlfriend, and if she was it’d still be pointless. If he had a different girlfriend OR peach, he wouldn’t care about stopping bowser whatsoever. Also Jumpman is Mario’s dad so I guess that makes Pauline his mum

Re: Unpopular opinions on Rayman

Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2024 10:36 pm
by The Jonster
*Jumpman is Mario’s dad*
*makes Pauline his mum*


Is this your Mario headcanon or something

Re: Unpopular opinions on Rayman

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2024 6:39 am
by Greengoop
No, it is a scientifically proven fact :proud:

Re: Unpopular opinions on Rayman

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2024 7:53 am
by Pirez
As long as Pauline remains a big-titted giantess, I'm okay with whatever.

Yes, I've seen your "wah-wah-wah, nymphs shouldn't be sexy" and I don't care. I love huge cans and sexual objectification and I'd like for it to happen to me one day because I'm lonely so much that it messes with my brain.

Re: Unpopular opinions on Rayman

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2024 10:59 am
by Dumbo TV
Pirez wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2024 5:46 pm That was precisely my point. Maybe you not growing up with the early-era videogames made you more critical of them since you've experienced games that have surpassed it on many, if not all, points. But you never experienced how Rayman 2 was a masterpiece for its time and that, in a time where videogame releases weren't as blindingly abundant as it is today, how much of an event it was.

Therefore, on the flip side, it could also be said that our love for those games are tainted by nostalgia, which can be a fair assessment to some degree. While it definitely did not aged as poorly as my next example, there are people who unironically believe that Goldeneye N64 still is a top of the range shooter.

What is objectively true about Rayman 2, though, is that it is the only game of the serie that has a whimsical-dark tone. No game in the serie since has attempted it.
And it's definitely a tone I cherish. But I most definitely wouldn't be against a remaster that irons out the gameplay, adds more combat variety and introduced more character arcs, which while still non-existent, Rayman 2 is still the only game to try and implement one (it's the only one where Rayman actually has a choice to make, in the cave of Bad Dreams, and you don't really have a choice anyway. That's how deep of a character arc Rayman underwent in the entire series)
I found RRR darker than Rayman 2 tbh :oops2:

Re: Unpopular opinions on Rayman

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2024 11:38 am
by Pirez
I wonder if Hunch would agree with that one.

Re: Unpopular opinions on Rayman

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2024 11:43 am
by dr_st
Dumbo TV wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 10:59 am I found RRR darker than Rayman 2 tbh :oops2:
RRR for the GBA is even darker. Come on, the last boss Rabbid actually gets impaled!

Re: Unpopular opinions on Rayman

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2024 4:31 pm
by Greengoop
I dunno why people brew up this vision of Rayman 2 being incredibly dark and emotional. It’s literally just “oh no, robo pirate” “oh no, obstacles” “cutscene where Ly says some smack for a couple of second, how sad, I’m gonna cry and pray in my rayman 2 cult building”. Like Rayman 3 has a lot darker story, but it is outweighed by all the silly jokes which the R2 devs forgot about when creating their “perfect” game

Re: Unpopular opinions on Rayman

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2024 5:19 pm
by Hugo
You're too young to understand, Greenhorn... Oops, I mean, Greengoop :lol:

Re: Unpopular opinions on Rayman

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2024 5:34 pm
by Greengoop
Hugo wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 5:19 pm You're too young to be blinded by nostalgia my god, I shall pray to you 571 times a day for my insults
Thank you Hugo! Nobody has ever said such kind words to me :nostalgic: :hap:

Re: Unpopular opinions on Rayman

Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2024 1:09 pm
by Dumbo TV
dr_st wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 11:43 am
Dumbo TV wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 10:59 am I found RRR darker than Rayman 2 tbh :oops2:
RRR for the GBA is even darker. Come on, the last boss Rabbid actually gets impaled!
Yes but it's the only dark moment in the game, I like this constant unhealthy side of RRR, these weird little creatures invade the glade, they don't even speak, Rayman knows nothing about his enemy, he is locked in a gray prison, very industrial, similar to human architectures, very different from the extravagant and more fanciful constructions of the pirates and Hoodlums, everything is dirty, gray, desolate, rusty, the way the rabbids observe Rayman through the window like a strange thing
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