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Re: Battle of the Fairy Council
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2023 6:26 pm
by Hunchman801
Rayman Saturn wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2023 4:05 pm
Nothing felt quite as satisfying and wondrous as getting through a tough level like Mr Stone's Peaks, and suddenly hearing that magical uplifting music and seeing the game's most reassuring and magical character telling you you're gonna be able to do new awesome things with Rayman's abilities!

...And then Origins came out, and I got incredibly confused when I saw her and found out
she was meant to be *Betilla* (

), and I briefly wondered after freeing her if I didn't accidentally bought a 18+ parody of Rayman and got uncomfortable at the possibility of a relative suddenly barging into the room at that exact moment.
Them sweet memories...

and yes, I kinda get the same feeling when editing an article for one of the nymphs on RayWiki.

I sure wouldn't want a colleague to walk by.

Re: Battle of the Fairy Council
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2023 9:13 pm
by ☭ CrazyKyoto ☭
As for me Betilla from Rayman Origins isn't look too sexualised. I played Rayman Origins in October 2012, when I was 11 years old. I was not embarrassed by the scenes of the liberation of Betilla and her sisters. They were corrupted not by "Ubeysoft" but by R34 and Deviant Art fanworks.
However... I should note that Helena Handbasket... She lives in a cold snowy world. And Edith Up too ... Why did they wear bikinis and not fur coats? Or just in some outerwear? Apparently Ubi wanted to make their appearance more memorable. But we still tried not to do too much.
Re: Battle of the Fairy Council
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2023 9:56 pm
by dr_st
Ubeysoft... Not sure everyone here picks up on your pun.

Re: Battle of the Fairy Council
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2023 10:45 pm
by Mortamon Saturn
Hunchman801 wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2023 6:26 pm
Them sweet memories...

and yes, I kinda get the same feeling when editing an article for one of the nymphs on RayWiki.

I sure wouldn't want a colleague to walk by.
Sweet, painful memories

Wouldn't that be awkward! Now I can imagine someone getting fired for "looking at scantily-clad Raywomen" at their job!

"S-sir, I-I can explain! It was for Rayman encyclopedic purposes!"
☭ CrazyKyoto ☭ wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2023 9:13 pm
However... I should note that Helena Handbasket... She lives in a cold snowy world. And Edith Up too ... Why did they wear bikinis and not fur coats? Or just in some outerwear?
Great question indeed!
Assuming Ubisoft is following the typical MMO/RPG logic for video game female equipment, wearing less clothes not only boosts their defense stat more than any full armor but also makes them more resilient to elements like cold!
dr_st wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2023 9:56 pm
Ubeysoft... Not sure everyone here picks up on your pun.
You're right, I don't get it! But after all, I don't think anyone who doesn't speak French gets "Ubichiottes" either

Re: Battle of the Fairy Council
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 12:48 am
by StrangeSolo
☭ CrazyKyoto ☭ wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2023 9:13 pm
As for me Betilla from Rayman Origins isn't look too sexualised. I played Rayman Origins in October 2012, when I was 11 years old. I was not embarrassed by the scenes of the liberation of Betilla and her sisters. They were corrupted not by "Ubeysoft" but by R34 and Deviant Art fanworks.
I personally still more stick to her original design for the reasons I have stated in my previous post, but I'm glad that you like this design!
☭ CrazyKyoto ☭ wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2023 9:13 pm
However... I should note that Helena Handbasket... She lives in a cold snowy world. And Edith Up too ... Why did they wear bikinis and not fur coats? Or just in some outerwear? Apparently Ubi wanted to make their appearance more memorable. But we still tried not to do too much.
And yeah, that's pretty weird choice of outfit from Ubisoft tbh, I wish they had more appropriate to the climate clothes than they have in the game. Poor Helena :"D
☭ CrazyKyoto ☭ wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2023 9:13 pm
They were corrupted not by "Ubeysoft" but by R34 and Deviant Art fanworks.
Ooo, that pun!
For those who's confused, it's mix of words "ubey" ("убей", means "kill" or "murder" in Russian) and Ubisoft. So like Killsoft or Murdersoft.
Re: Battle of the Fairy Council
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 11:53 am
by PluMGMK
Here's my take on their outfits from almost nine years ago:
PluMGMK wrote: Wed Feb 04, 2015 1:13 pm
Why the nymphs dress so scantily: in order to dissipate the unimaginable heat generated by their dense muscles as they use those tiny wings to provide enough lift to stay airborne!
This raises more questions than it answers by the way.
Re: Battle of the Fairy Council
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 5:10 pm
by Greengoop
Interesting…
Also it might just be me but this is a perfect explanation needing no questions
Re: Battle of the Fairy Council
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 5:19 pm
by Dumbo TV
Greengoop wrote: Sun Dec 10, 2023 2:39 pm
There’s no lore to Ly either tho
Anyway it’d be interesting seeing ly return in origins
I would have loved Ly to come back in Origins !!
More Nymphs plz

Re: Battle of the Fairy Council
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 5:40 pm
by Greengoop
Dumbo TV wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 5:19 pm
Greengoop wrote: Sun Dec 10, 2023 2:39 pm
There’s no lore to Ly either tho
Anyway it’d be interesting seeing ly return in origins
I would have loved Ly to come back in Origins !!
More Nymphs plz
That’d be great. Tbh I’d like to see some of them return in R4 to give quests maybe?
Re: Battle of the Fairy Council
Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2023 2:24 pm
by Mortamon Saturn
StrangeSolo wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 12:48 am
Ooo, that pun!
For those who's confused, it's mix of words "ubey" ("убей", means "kill" or "murder" in Russian) and Ubisoft. So like Killsoft or Murdersoft.
Thanks for the explanation! I like it, it's fitting considering what they did to some of their franchises
As for Ubichiotte, it's basically "Ubicrapper/Ubitoilet".
We also have:
-"Actipognon" (Activision + pognon, so "Acticash/Moneyvision").
-"EArnaque" (EA + arnaque, so "EAfraud").
-"Nintendaube" (Nintendo + daube, "Nintencrap").
-"Escrosoft" (escroc + Microsoft, "Scamsoft").
-"Xbouse" (Xbox + bouse, "Xcowpat").
-"Gamefric" (Gamefreak + fric, "Gamemoolah")
Very poetic names, I know.
PluMGMK wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 11:53 am
Here's my take on their outfits from almost nine years ago:
PluMGMK wrote: Wed Feb 04, 2015 1:13 pm
Why the nymphs dress so scantily: in order to dissipate the unimaginable heat generated by their dense muscles as they use those tiny wings to provide enough lift to stay airborne!
This raises more questions than it answers by the way.
Shrooblord wrote: Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:37 pm
You mean to say the Nymphs are...
hot?

I think the most rational explanation is that they didn't cared about any logic and simply wanted to potentially make more cash by using the nymphs in promotional material... That and some people in the team being horny for pixels.

Re: Battle of the Fairy Council
Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2023 8:36 pm
by Greengoop
Acticash actually has a nice ring to it. Most of them are just a bit childish tho. LOL
Re: Battle of the Fairy Council
Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2023 9:11 pm
by The Jonster
Dumbo TV wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 5:19 pm
Greengoop wrote: Sun Dec 10, 2023 2:39 pm
There’s no lore to Ly either tho
Anyway it’d be interesting seeing ly return in origins
I would have loved Ly to come back in Origins !!
More Nymphs plz
I wouldn't mind but I definitely do not want Ly to get the same treatment that Betilla did when she returned for Origins. I think it works for Betilla but if Ly went through that she'd lose that charming, cat-girl heroine like vibe that made me like her in the first place.
Re: Battle of the Fairy Council
Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2023 9:48 pm
by Greengoop
I bet people were also saying that about the new Betilla design when it first came out

Re: Battle of the Fairy Council
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 2:34 pm
by Hunchman801
At least, thanks to the introduction of the nymphs in Origins, we now know who stole Ly's boobs in Rayman 2.
Re: Battle of the Fairy Council
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 7:29 pm
by Mortamon Saturn
Greengoop wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2023 8:36 pm
Acticash actually has a nice ring to it. Most of them are just a bit childish tho. LOL
To be fair, most of them can't really be translated efficiently into English due to a lack of proper equivalents.
For example, "daube" isn't nearly as much of a swear word in French as crap is in English despite it being listed as its main translation to qualify something of bad quality... It's also the word for a kind of beef stew.

But yeah, the principle in itself
is pretty childish
Anyway, Space Mama >>>>> all those nymphs/fairies

Re: Battle of the Fairy Council
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 11:53 pm
by Dumbo TV
What wise words... Space Mama is clearly the greatest Waïfu in the multiverse !

Re: Battle of the Fairy Council
Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:05 am
by Greengoop
You guys still like SM after all the pain and suffering she caused across the globe?

Re: Battle of the Fairy Council
Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2023 9:30 am
by dr_st
I never met her outside of her theatre in Picture City, so I don't know which 'pain and suffering' you refer to.

Re: Battle of the Fairy Council
Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2023 9:59 am
by Greengoop
Okay whose POV are you talking in now?
Re: Battle of the Fairy Council
Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2023 12:21 pm
by Mortamon Saturn
Dumbo TV wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 11:53 pm
What wise words... Space Mama is clearly the greatest Waïfu in the multiverse !
Ah, a fellow man of culture!
Though Razoff is still number #1 waifu of course!
Greengoop wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:05 am
You guys still like SM after all the pain and suffering she caused across the globe?
But that's exactly what makes her the best! What other Rayman character can claim to have got the most kills on the limbless hero?
Space Mama is thus confirmed to be the strongest and most skillful being in the Rayman universe
Greengoop wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 9:59 am
Okay whose POV are you talking in now?
From the perspective of the gigachads roaming the "globe"!
But we all know the planet is shaped like a Plum! 