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Re: In conclusion, what version results the most complete?

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 2:18 pm
by Master
Master wrote:The Wikipedia Rayman article is badly written.
To put it bluntly, it's not right, ie. it's wrong. It is incorrect, it is fabrication or misunderstanding. Complete and utter tosh.

Wikipedia can be a good source when done right, but never take everything it says with 100% certainty.

Re: In conclusion, what version results the most complete?

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 2:31 pm
by Lexis
But that Moskito shoot blue fireballs and the Breakout minigame was right, for this I had come to doubt about that last part, you know!

Re: In conclusion, what version results the most complete?

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 2:33 pm
by Master
Considering the awkward wording of the article, it seems more likely that someone misinterpreted the shoddy writing and added what was not, instead of what was. Either ways, all evidence you've seen points to the contrary of what that article seems to suggest regarding these effects, from what I can fathom.

Re: In conclusion, what version results the most complete?

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 2:36 pm
by Lexis
Is not to make the stubborn at all costs, but I have to be 100% sure on every aspect, you know! In fact I have come here because I know who you are and how you work!
Then if that article was corrected after I pointed out the misunderstanding of Pong mini-game who is in fact Breakout mingame, I can also be reasonable to think that's the unique effects are true, and ask for confirmation to those know surely that?

Re: In conclusion, what version results the most complete?

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 2:40 pm
by Master
Right, so all sorted then?

Re: In conclusion, what version results the most complete?

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 2:42 pm
by OCG
Lexis wrote:Is not to make the stubborn at all costs, but I have to be 100% sure on every aspect, you know! In fact I have come here because I know who you are and how you work!
Then if that article was corrected after I pointed out the misunderstanding of Pong mini-game who is in fact Breakout mingame, I can also be reasonable to think that's the unique effects are true, and ask for confirmation to those know surely that?
Just look for all info here:
https://raymanpc.com/wiki/en/Rayman_1

Re: In conclusion, what version results the most complete?

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 2:45 pm
by Lexis
I added this detail in my previous answer:
Then if that article was corrected after I pointed out the misunderstanding of Pong mini-game who is in fact Breakout mingame, I can also be reasonable to think that's the unique effects that wikipedia mentioned are true, and ask for confirmation to those know surely that!

Therefore, we have made ​​it clear that here obviously affirm the truth, but I need someone to confirm (based on their experience) that even in the case of the effects cited from wikipedia are not really present in the Jaguar version? After you can also close here!

OldClassicGamer, I checked all of that page! In this case, the answer can only give me someone who has played at least the versions, for Jaguar compared with the PlayStation or Saturn versions.

Re: In conclusion, what version results the most complete?

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 3:54 pm
by Lexis
There is one more thing I do not understand, why the Jaguar version, although that much more powerful, it lacks almost all of the content?

Re: In conclusion, what version results the most complete?

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 5:26 pm
by OCG
Jaguar is not more powerful than PS1, and Saturn. People only thought that because of false advertising.

Re: In conclusion, what version results the most complete?

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 7:53 pm
by Lexis
Ok, even not more powerful, however, the best first Rayman graphic (on console) is on the Jaguar version, I know it for personal testing-experience, then I wonder why they have not implemented the same features in this version, don't you think!

One last thing about Rayman, wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rayman_(video_game) states that only in the Atari Jaguar version the bomb explosions have a glow-effect and smoke and Mr. Skops' lava has glowing/smoke effect, but I checked and this feature is always present in the other version except this!
Someone, based on its experience, can also clarify this doubt?

Re: In conclusion, what version results the most complete?

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 10:10 am
by Lexis
Yet no one who can clarify me this doubt thanks on its personal experience?

Re: In conclusion, what version results the most complete?

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:00 am
by OCG
I have not played Jaguar version that much so I dunno about that one, but I can confirm that Saturn version has same features like you mentioned.

Re: In conclusion, what version results the most complete?

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 1:29 pm
by Haruka
A good advice: Never trust wikipedia if you are looking for Rayman stuff.

Re: In conclusion, what version results the most complete?

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 1:32 pm
by OCG
both regular Wikipedia and Rayman Wikipedia have many infos wrong. RayWiki is clearly the only trusted site for information.

Re: In conclusion, what version results the most complete?

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 1:50 pm
by Lexis
but I can confirm that Saturn version has same features like you mentioned.
A part the "Breakout" minigame and who Moskito shoots blue fireballs instead who to exploit the Rayman's fist how the other versions, right?

PS: Raywiki is the best, but my doubt had come because on the two exclusive characteristics of blue fireballs shooted by Moskito and Breakout minigame wikipedia was right, so I thought it was right even on those other two details!

Re: In conclusion, what version results the most complete?

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 1:53 pm
by OCG
Not that! I was referring to the bomb explosions that have a glow-effect and smoke and Mr. Skops' lava has glowing/smoke effect. Those are not Jaguar Exclusive and are in all versions. Bzzit shooting IS Jaguar exclusive. Breakout is only in Jaguar and PC version.

Re: In conclusion, what version results the most complete?

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 1:57 pm
by Lexis
I understand it's just that I put the question in wrong way! I was asking for confirmation that, apart from the Breakout mini-game and the Moskito's ability, the effects were also present in all other versions, and you've just answered, for my joy are present!
But my doubt had come because on the two exclusive characteristics of blue fireballs shooted by Moskito and Breakout minigame wikipedia was right, so I thought it was right even on those other two aspects!

Re: In conclusion, what version results the most complete?

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 2:17 pm
by Master
Wikipedia, the cause of all our trivial Rayman problems, it seems.

Re: In conclusion, what version results the most complete?

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 2:28 pm
by Lexis
Look Master, I think like all of you, wikipedia is not handled well, but sometimes I give to WP a chance because it says that maybe there is some truth always, here is the misunderstanding!

Re: In conclusion, what version results the most complete?

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 2:31 pm
by Haruka
Are you using a translator?