In conclusion, what version results the most complete?

[Lexis]

Hello everyone, I'm new in the forum and I decided to join here to ask about my latent curiosity, stating that I'm a lover of the Rayman series and I wanna collect Rayman and Rayman 3 Hoodlum Havoc, but, on the more complete versions in terms of contents, theremore: levels, bonus levels, characters, details, effects, settings and so on, without compromising the wonderful graphics of main titles of series?

Let me give an example: the first Rayman for Atari Jaguar does not have Bad Rayman and to me this particular aspect I've never been good, also in this version lacks graphical effects (rain, fog, smoke), layers (or portions of these) and more then enough for me to fall back on versions for the Sega Saturn and Sony PlayStation, but at this point I ask you: which of these two latter being almost identical versions that actually turns out to be the more complete for contents but at the same time with better graphics?

In the case of Rayman 3 Hoodlum Havoc which version has the best graphics with the largest number of contents? I knew that the GameCube version was the most complete since it has the same contents of PS2 and Xbox versions, but with more bonus levels and while maintaining a graphic that is a cross between the poor-graphic of the PS2 version and the best-graphic of the Xbox version of the game, correct me if not exactly?

I always thought that a game "all graphic - few contents" was never what I wanted! So, I await mass answers make from your knowledge to allow me to include in my collection the real best versions of this two classic, thank you : )

PS: Rayman 2 TGE not need answer as the most complete version is for the Sega Dreamcast, and there is no doubt.

PPS: no advice on PC versions, I like playing the games only on consoles, thanks!

[OCG]

Rayman 1 is in my opinion best on Saturn because it has some unique stuff, or Japanese PS1 version because it h\as best sound effects and animations from jaguar version plus Dark Rayman chase. Rayman 3, go for the PC version or GameCube one. My opinions.

[Lexis]

What unique stuff had the Sega Saturn version than the Sony PlayStation version? I knew they were literally identical!

I'm interested to the right compromise Contents/Graphics Quality = Completeness!

[Master]

The Saturn version has some extra animations, and a few extra effects and sounds if memory serves. However, personally, I'm not very keen at all with some of the background changes in that version, they're more miss than hit for me. To each their own of course, but just give 'em a look at.

As for Rayman 2, I'd agree definitely that the Dreamcast version is the best edition of Rayman 2. However, don't put down Revolution, it does have a few exclusive minigames and extras also, and while its frame rate is choppy compared to the superb 60FPS of the Dreamcast version, I personally do think it looks better visually.

Rayman 3, I'd go for the Gamecube version really, there's not really much difference between versions, but I think the Gamecube has a slight edge.

[OCG]

The Saturn version has some extra animations, and a few extra effects and sounds if memory serves. However, personally, I'm not very keen at all with some of the background changes in that version, they're more miss than hit for me. To each their own of course, but just give 'em a look at.

Yeah, plus it had best main menu screen. Backgrounds are opinion based true on that.

[Lexis]

I had heard too that the Sega Saturn version looked better than the Sony PlayStation version, but I also prefer more some background in the PlayStation version, nevertheless I will opt for the Saturn version for the reasons I have already explained, some background inverted can not compromise the completeness of the game!

A last couple of questions on Rayman for Sega Saturn (I have to ask more specifications because I will proceed to purchase an european Selaed copy, when find it, and do not want to make any mistakes): such as more animations, effect and sounds, do you specifically remember what the Saturn version offers?
Bonus levels are the same for Saturn and Playstation versions? The bonus level known as "Pong" as you unlock?

With regard to Rayman 3 Hoodlum Havoc is true, the versions to a careless eye might look the same, but graphically the best version is the one for Xbox! But, since I also seek all the contents that the game offers, you can confirm therefore that the most complete is the one for the GameCube? Can motivate?

[OCG]

Xbox version of R3 does not have best Graphics. PC version has much better.
Bonus levels are same in Saturn version like in PS1. There is no Pong bonus in any version. There is Breakout Bonus in Jaguar and PC version.

[sfn42]

For Rayman 3, the GameCube version has two exclusive minigames (three, if you count 3D Nightmare, which can't be unlocked without action replay, though): Mad Trax and Wheelis but you need a GBA connection to play them (see here and here). If you have that option, go with the GC-version if you want all the content, if you don't have a GBA connection, you can go with the Xbox version just as well. If you're ever interested in doing a scoring run on R3, I'd recommend the Xbox or PS2 versions because you can get slightly more points on those than on GC and PC.

[raymancool_bis]

Welcome potato.

You say the most complete version of R2 is the Dreamcast, but what about Revolution?

[OCG]

Revolution had some fair amount of issues, mostly frame dropping, and Dreamcast had better graphics than PS2.

[raymancool_bis]

Yes but Revolution had more content right potato?

[OCG]

It did had Hub world, more bosses and other stuff to be fair.

[Haruka]

Howdy and welcome to the forum.

Honestly, the PlayStation version of Rayman 1 is the most complete and the best one if we are considering every technical aspect. Concerning R3HH, if you are looking for a better graphism (excluding PC) I think you should turn to the Xbox version. In terms of content, the GameCube version is the most complete one.

[Hunchman801]

The PlayStation version is probably the best one but it's a shame it doesn't have the transition level between the Dream Forest and Band Land. As for Rayman 2, Revolution may have more stuff but I think they also ruined quite a lot of things so the Dreamcast version probably remains the best one.

[Master]

Essentially what Humch said regarding my thoughts on Revolution. It looks better, but has a crappy framerate. It has three large open hub-worlds, yet messed about with the layouts of many levels from the original version. It has some nice exclusive bonuses, but didn't need to change the old cage-health system to give them. I dislike how they also did the soundtrack for this game, it's just ambience that plays when revisiting levels.

[Haruka]

I honestly like both RR and R2 (DC), but if we go for technical details there is no doubt that the Dreamcast version is the most superior one. RR suffers with intermitent framerate issues, the confusing disposal of the levels among other things. Despite of those, it is still a very good game.

[Lexis]

Ok, on Rayman 3 Hoodlum Havoc there is no doubt anymore, will buy the Nintendo GameCube version (sealed); even if I do not have the GBA I do not care necessarily exploit the content but just know that I have purchased the most complete version to be insert in my collection!

sfn42, why on the PS2 and Xbox versions of Rayman 3 HH you can get more points? The games are identically, also in terms of diamonds and their power-ups scattered throughout the game to increase your points! Can you explain better?

Do you know if there are other differences (apart the graphics quality) between Rayman 3 HH for GameCube and Rayman 3 HH for Xbox?

Returning to Rayman for PlayStation or Saturn, I was told on this page by the user Master that the Saturn version is the most complete because had some extra animations, and a few extra effects and sounds, with the best graphics between the two versions than the PlayStation version. Now, why Haruka says that the PlayStation version is the most complete and the best one considering every technical aspect? You may be clear and tell me which of this two versions is definitively the most complete explaining well why? I hate the mess!

Hunchman801, the transition level between the Dream Forest and Band Land is present on the Saturn version? What is it?

OldClassicGamer, regarding the minigame known as "Pong" see the section "Original Atari Jaguar version vs. CD-ROM versions" of the wikipedia page dedicated to Rayman: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rayman_(video_game) it says clearly that there is a pong minigame in the PlayStation and Saturn versions?!

PS: as I'm not interested for PC versions, I'm not even interested for remakes! For me the only real Rayman 2 is "The Great Escape", and this is the motivation why I did not mention Rayman Revolution! For me, the remakes could also avoid, were only an offense and a continuos speculation on the Rayman series!

[Adsolution]

Hunchman801, the transition level between the Dream Forest and Band Land is present on the Saturn version? What is it?

He's referring to the PC-exclusive first area of Bongo Hills, which acted as a 'transition' from the Dream Forest to Band Land:



All the other versions already started up in the sky:

[OCG]

So you are asking us which versions are best but you will buy sealed versions and you don't plan on playing them? Ok if you wish so.

Regarding PS1 vs Saturn, I am not sure why Haruka said PS1 version is most complete (but then again all these are just opinions and Haruka is entitled to her's) because Master was right about content of Saturn version plus I also can confirm since I played both versions 100%
PS1 is the version most fans play however because it is more known and only last year, working method for Saturn emulator was found. Only downside for some in Saturn version are high pitched voices, but I personally find it funny.

I still never heared about Pong mini game in Rayman 1. Any footage?

[Master]

Blimey, talk about picky.

Sfn is right, while the versions of Rayman 3 seem to be identical to the casual player, I've seen and noticed that to a hardcore and well versed scorer, there are some differences that come in scoring technique and tricks across versions and thus the maximum amount of points than can be harvested from them. Personally though, unless you're serious about scoring, I don't think there's much need to discern like so.

Regarding Wikipedia and Pong, while I can't speak completely for the Saturn version, that'll have to be OCG's thing, I can say that it definitely does not exist in the PS1 version and either that article has some misinformation, or it's been interpreted wrong.