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Re: Vegetarianism and veganism, an urban trend?
Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2024 5:54 pm
by Pirez
Hunchman801 wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2024 5:35 pm
I think it's just Trolling 101. Whether it's vegans or
gingers, no characteristic is irrelevant when it comes to eliciting a bad reaction from your target. With a substantial proportion of vegans being very sensitive about the matter, the opportunity is served on a silver platter.
I think there's also a bit of pushback of people who do not like to put their way of living into perspective.
It's easier to dismiss vegans as wacky-beta-soy-cucks as to actually think about the fact that the meat we consume comes from an animal we had to kill, often times without the slightest trace of humanity, and if often pollutes a whole lot to produce anyway.
I've been labeled a fag and a chick at work because I entertained the idea of at least trying the plant-based alternatives to meat (even though I don't think I'll ever be either vegetarian or vegan). That's how defensive people can get.
However, I'd take Plum's link with a grain of salt. I've grown wary of those "fact-check" list that reads just like a list of gotchas to win arguments. Veganism can be a battle if you're an activist, but it doesn't have to be either.
Re: Vegetarianism and veganism, an urban trend?
Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2024 5:56 pm
by Greengoop
Grown men you a “Fag” or a “chick” for wanting to try food has to be one of the most pathetic copes I’ve heard in my entire life. Like how is their life going to be any different if some people just ate the plant alternative?
Re: Vegetarianism and veganism, an urban trend?
Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2024 6:00 pm
by Pirez
It's weird how accusation of homosexuality are still a go to in our current times where homosexuality is pretty much accepted.
Re: Vegetarianism and veganism, an urban trend?
Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2024 6:00 pm
by Hunchman801
Pirez wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2024 5:54 pm
I think there's also a bit of pushback of people who do not like to put their way of living into perspective.
That's a good point, mocking others is an easy way to dismiss arguments, whether valid or invalid. and avoid questioning oneself.
Pirez wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2024 6:00 pm
It's weird how accusation of homosexuality are still a go to in our current times where homosexuality is pretty much accepted.
I don't suppose they mean it literally when they say that, or do they?
Re: Vegetarianism and veganism, an urban trend?
Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2024 6:03 pm
by Greengoop
Pirez wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2024 6:00 pm
It's weird how accusation of homosexuality are still a go to in our current times where homosexuality is pretty much accepted.
To be honest, a lot of people will just call you “gay” because their weak minds can’t think of a better insult.
Re: Vegetarianism and veganism, an urban trend?
Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2024 6:05 pm
by Hunchman801
Greengoop wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2024 6:03 pm
To be honest, a lot of people will just call you “gay” because their weak minds can’t think of a better insult.
Yeah, that's what I meant. It's still dumb, but I don't think they mean it literally.
Re: Vegetarianism and veganism, an urban trend?
Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2024 6:07 pm
by Greengoop
I still remember a few months ago when people were doing that stupid “If you move you’re gay” thing. That was the worst period of the modern era, seeing a bunch of kids frozen in place wherever I went at school
Re: Vegetarianism and veganism, an urban trend?
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2024 11:58 am
by Hunchman801
I think of some members we've had in the past, and maybe they should have been told "if you post you're gay".
Re: Vegetarianism and veganism, an urban trend?
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2024 11:59 am
by Greengoop
We could definitely use that as an efficient anti-spam mechanism, especially considering most of them would be no doubt homophobic
Re: Vegetarianism and veganism, an urban trend?
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2024 2:17 pm
by PluMGMK
Pirez wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2024 5:54 pm
However, I'd take Plum's link with a grain of salt. I've grown wary of those "fact-check" list that reads just like a list of gotchas to win arguments. Veganism can be a battle if you're an activist, but it doesn't have to be either.
I hear ya… I still felt it was worth posting though, since it acknowledges that some of the questions are "complicated", and that sometimes the vegan option is not the best (e.g. when it involves human exploitation)…
Greengoop wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2024 6:07 pm
I still remember a few months ago when people were doing that stupid “If you move you’re gay” thing. That was the worst period of the modern era, seeing a bunch of kids frozen in place wherever I went at school
Oh wow… Having been in classrooms where kids couldn't stay quiet if their lives depended on it, I find this so hard to even imagine!

How many kids are we talking about here? I remember people calling each other gay twenty years ago, most of them didn't even know what it meant… The playground needs new insults…

Re: Vegetarianism and veganism, an urban trend?
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2024 2:20 pm
by Greengoop
Literally everyone!; genuine nice people, chavs, chavettes, quiet kids, athletic kids, weird kids, it was a goddamn nightmare. I was so relieved the day I first saw someone literally just say “well that’s not funny, is it?” After being told it

Re: Vegetarianism and veganism, an urban trend?
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2024 2:27 pm
by PluMGMK
I'm pretty sure I would have ignored it. I always did my own thing in the corner of the schoolyard anyway

Re: Vegetarianism and veganism, an urban trend?
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2024 2:28 pm
by Greengoop
When the fate of moving is worse than death, it was hard for a lot of people to try and be like that

Re: Vegetarianism and veganism, an urban trend?
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2024 3:29 pm
by PluMGMK
Hunchman801 wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2024 5:28 pm
I wonder what the prevalence of vegetarianism is around here, maybe this thread, though a bit specific (and biased

), would be a good place for a poll?
Oh wow, I'd forgotten how weird this thread was

Well, I console myself by reminding myself again and again that we all had cabin fever at the time from over half a year of rolling lockdowns
How about another Awesome and Cool Poll instead?

Re: Vegetarianism and veganism, an urban trend?
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2024 3:31 pm
by Greengoop
As long as somebody else could update it!

Re: Vegetarianism and veganism, an urban trend?
Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2024 3:24 pm
by Hunchman801
PluMGMK wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 3:29 pm
How about another Awesome and Cool Poll instead?
I like the idea!
Re: Vegetarianism and veganism, an urban trend?
Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2024 4:27 pm
by Greengoop
I also would love it, hopefully Dave returns soon and sees this thread