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Re: Rayman Origins
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 3:50 pm
by Ephriokko
ParadoxJuice wrote:Ephriokko wrote:it was at least my way of explaining why Rayman wouldn't have any powers at the beginning of the first Rayman game(he couldn't even throw a punch!)
I don't think we're going to get an explanation. Ever played an RPG? Ever played the sequel of the same RPG? Notice how you lose all that cool stuff you collected in Unnamed RPG 1? This seems to be the same thing, in reverse (he has all his powers in the prequel as opposed to losing them in the sequel).
See
Bag of Spilling. By clicking this text.
Nah, that isn't exactly what I meant; it was more of a way for me to think of "How did he get from Point A to Point B?". Of course in RPGs it's ridiculous that they all lose their cool stuff like that(sometimes it's justified, but other times... mehhhh), but I was just going along with a train of thought and figured "Hey, this could work as an idea maybe!" It kind of... well, to put it in another way I think you'd understand given the link you gave, It Makes Sense In Context... ;D
So I'm not actually expecting any explanation for it, it's just a silly thing for me to think of in my head. Because even if it is never explained canonically, you have to admit that it's hard NOT to think of ways to 'fill in the gap' when you're playing the games. For me, anyways... I always think of "Well, maybe ___ happened and that's why" or "They left their stuff somewhere else before leaving" or something.
On another note: I can't believe I just happened to randomly meet someone who also knows about that site. I
love TV Tropes, even if I'm too chicken to actually do much in the community itself thus far besides a few edits and things(It can be hard for me to get into the actual community part sometimes, with the forums and everything... but I'm going to try and give it a go sometime). It's so incredibly hard to not reference it when talking about a trope from there out of context though... Dx
On another, ANOTHER note: For what it's worth, I put the story thing I was talking about on the forums in the art/whatever forum place. Just in case you're interested in what I meant, since I really suck at explaining stuff that I've already explained once before and... bahh. You know, I'm gonna just end my post now...

Re: Rayman Origins
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:06 am
by ParadoxJuice
Ephriokko wrote:
Nah, that isn't exactly what I meant; it was more of a way for me to think of "How did he get from Point A to Point B?". Of course in RPGs it's ridiculous that they all lose their cool stuff like that(sometimes it's justified, but other times... mehhhh), but I was just going along with a train of thought and figured "Hey, this could work as an idea maybe!" It kind of... well, to put it in another way I think you'd understand given the link you gave, It Makes Sense In Context... ;D
So I'm not actually expecting any explanation for it, it's just a silly thing for me to think of in my head. Because even if it is never explained canonically, you have to admit that it's hard NOT to think of ways to 'fill in the gap' when you're playing the games. For me, anyways... I always think of "Well, maybe ___ happened and that's why" or "They left their stuff somewhere else before leaving" or something.
I know what you mean, of wanting to fill in the gaps. I think that 75% of the speculation on the games story on this site is just people thinking about stuff way more than the developers did.
On another note: I can't believe I just happened to randomly meet someone who also knows about that site. I love TV Tropes, even if I'm too chicken to actually do much in the community itself thus far besides a few edits and things(It can be hard for me to get into the actual community part sometimes, with the forums and everything... but I'm going to try and give it a go sometime). It's so incredibly hard to not reference it when talking about a trope from there out of context though... Dx
I love TV Tropes.
It's introduced me to a bunch of great series.
Re: Rayman Origins
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 5:28 am
by Sabertooth
Epriokko wrote:On another note: I can't believe I just happened to randomly meet someone who also knows about that site. I love TV Tropes, even if I'm too chicken to actually do much in the community itself thus far besides a few edits and things(It can be hard for me to get into the actual community part sometimes, with the forums and everything... but I'm going to try and give it a go sometime). It's so incredibly hard to not reference it when talking about a trope from there out of context though... Dx
Whoa, I had no idea there were so many TV Tropes readers here! I've only recently began to really dive into it, but I already love it. It's changed the way I look at both fiction and life.
Re: Rayman Origins
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:16 pm
by spiraldoor
TV Tropes is too addictive. You can get stuck there for hours.
Re: Rayman Origins
Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 4:44 am
by Ephriokko
Whoa ho HO. There really are a bunch of people here who know TV Tropes! And here I thought it'd be difficult to find other people that like it.
...My opinion of this place just got even better.
spiraldoor wrote:TV Tropes is too addictive. You can get stuck there for hours.
Man, no kidding... it's just so darn entertaining. More people need to help edit on Rayman's page though. I've been wondering whether each game should get its own page, or whether the Rabbid games would get their entire page for their new series and whatnot... bah. If there are so many people on a Rayman forum that visit the site, we ought to pay more attention to the guy's page. =P
Back on topic... but still relating a bit to my previous statement...
You guys think that Rayman Origins would have its own entry or page yet on TV Tropes, or should we wait for more information before that? 'Cause other upcoming games *cough*
Skyward Sword*cough* have their own pages already, but you never really know, so... yeah.
Re: Rayman Origins
Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 2:10 pm
by spiraldoor
The Rayman and Rabbids pages should definitely be separated, but I’m not too sure about creating a separate page for each Rayman game. It would be inconvenient to have to shuffle between a bunch of different pages, and the pages would end up being quite short. We also wouldn’t have a place to write about minor games. We should just make one page, with subheadings for ‘Rayman 1’, ‘Rayman 2’, ‘Rayman 3’ and ‘Rayman series in general’ or something.
I have been thinking about making a good Rayman page on TV Tropes for some time, but I never got around to joining and writing it up.
Edit 1: I just had a look at
the Rayman TV Tropes page and it is tremendously better than the last time I saw it. Hmm.
Edit 2: Apparently there are tropes named
Band Land and
Raymanian Limbs. Excellent. We must name more tropes after Rayman.
Re: Rayman Origins
Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 6:11 am
by Ephriokko
spiraldoor wrote:The Rayman and Rabbids pages should definitely be separated, but I’m not too sure about creating a separate page for each Rayman game. It would be inconvenient to have to shuffle between a bunch of different pages, and the pages would end up being quite short. We also wouldn’t have a place to write about minor games. We should just make one page, with subheadings for ‘Rayman 1’, ‘Rayman 2’, ‘Rayman 3’ and ‘Rayman series in general’ or something.
Hm, you've got a point about the Rayman games. I was mostly just looking at all the examples that are under each specific game and wondered if at some point it should be organized better to make the page less cluttered. =P But yeah, I am kind of surprised that the Rabbids don't have their own page... I'm not sure I ought to make one since I haven't played all the Rabbids games(only the first, borrowed it from a neighbor), but I guess that other people who know more could always fix it up later.
Wiki Magic is awesome!
I have been thinking about making a good Rayman page on TV Tropes for some time, but I never got around to joining and writing it up.
Well, with Rayman Origins coming up and people who could possibly look into the series more, what better time to join and help provide more information to TV Tropers that become curious about the series?
Really? When's the last time you looked at it? I can admit that in the past month or so I've been helping edit it a lot more, though it was someone else who did all of the subtitles for every single game there. I just brought in more examples and changed the example format to be more universal, and nowadays I try to add examples, alphabetize them if they're not, move them if they're in the wrong place, and I've been thinking of making sure all of the links reciprocate each other and breaking the page into separate articles(now I think it'd be better just to do it with Rabbids). More people need to be active in editing Rayman's page if there are so many people here that go on TV Tropes, seriously! D:
Edit 2: Apparently there are tropes named
Band Land and
Raymanian Limbs. Excellent. We must name more tropes after Rayman.
Yeah, it'd be awesome if there were more tropes named after Rayman... though I'm not really a trope-creator kind of person. I prefer to make or edit pages for media that the tropes relate to. This is why more people need to contribute; I'm not gonna be doing that stuff and someone should. D:
EDIT: I am currently constructing a new page for the
Raving Rabbids series on TV Tropes and plan to remove the Rabbids' section on the Rayman page(I'll still leave a link to the new Rabbids page when I'm done). If anyone who has better knowledge of the Rabbids series would be able to help in the conversion of the Rabbids to their own page(and provide better information for the page itself), it'd be greatly appreciated!
EDIT 2: The Rabbids now have their own page. If you spot any misplaced text or errors that may have occurred in the move of the Rayman Raving Rabbids section on the
Rayman page to
Raving Rabbids(or just want to help smooth out the transition), feel free to(and please do!) edit it appropriately.
...huh.
Considering how much we're talking about TV Tropes so much more than Rayman Origins in the RO thread, maybe there ought to be another thread somewhere in the forums for TV Tropers and discussion of Rayman-related pages on it? Just a thought. Could help this kind of discussion without getting terribly off-topic...

Re: Rayman Origins
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 8:32 pm
by Jewish Candy
Tbh, the Rayman series doesn't have a huge amount to Trope-name.

Everything else got there first...
The page definitely needs improving, though it's organised better than most of a similar ilk.
Re: Rayman Origins
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:15 am
by Sabertooth
Ephriokko wrote:Considering how much we're talking about TV Tropes so much more than Rayman Origins in the RO thread, maybe there ought to be another thread somewhere in the forums for TV Tropers and discussion of Rayman-related pages on it? Just a thought. Could help this kind of discussion without getting terribly off-topic...

That's a good idea, but should we have a topic in the Rayman section for the page on TV Tropes or a topic in Off Topic for TV Tropes in general?
Re: Rayman Origins
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 8:28 am
by Ephriokko
Sabertooth1000000000 wrote:Ephriokko wrote:Considering how much we're talking about TV Tropes so much more than Rayman Origins in the RO thread, maybe there ought to be another thread somewhere in the forums for TV Tropers and discussion of Rayman-related pages on it? Just a thought. Could help this kind of discussion without getting terribly off-topic...

That's a good idea, but should we have a topic in the Rayman section for the page on TV Tropes or a topic in Off Topic for TV Tropes in general?
Hrm... well, since TV Tropes covers so many different subjects and the thing mainly tying this particular community is Rayman, I guess I'd suggest a topic about the Rayman stuff mostly, 'cause otherwise a lot of people could end up really confused. I think other things that could relate to it would be okay though... like Michel Ancel, the Rabbids, Beyond Good & Evil, etc... But that's just my take on it. ;D
Re: Rayman Origins
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 8:35 am
by Jewish Candy
Yeah, I think any TV Trope thing on here would have to focus on Rayman - but it would definitely need to allow for BG&E etc., or face extinction at the hands of old thread bumpers.

Our contribution to those series' pages would probably help our fellow Ancel-centred fans a lot...
Re: Rayman Origins
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 8:44 am
by Adsolution
It almost seems as if TV tropes has too many terms.

Re: Rayman Origins
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 8:27 pm
by Sabertooth
RayFan9876 wrote:It almost seems as if TV tropes has too many terms.

It doesn't have enough, if you ask me. Have they even named the trope where a paranormal being haunts the main characters, but in the end the character prove it to be fake, only for it to be hinted that the being is, in fact, real at the end?
Re: Rayman Origins
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 8:31 pm
by MLII
And they also need a "Too friendly friend" one. Stlaker With A Crush is a different thing; I'm talking about those pople who are just TOO friendly and happy and have never had an angry thought in their life and not to be emo here are honestly quite annoying.
...Wow big run-on sentence there Domi.
Re: Rayman Origins
Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 12:52 am
by Ephriokko
I always wondered if there was a trope for 'homing ammunition' like you find in many video games. I was seriously surprised to be unable to find it straight away. Does such an obvious thing not exist?

I mean, there's
Precision Guided Boomerang,
Homing Boulders,
Roboteching,
Misguided Missile, and another that I know I've seen but can't remember(which was pretty much how arrows, bullets, and projectiles in general would magically change their direction to go around corners or hit the target if it's moving - without explanation of how they're doing so), but
nothing about ammunition that homes in on its target but is
not guaranteed to hit. As in, it goes towards the target but it's quite possible for it to miss?
These are especially common in games with multi-player battles for shooting games, where it will follow the opponent around or automatically move towards it but is possible to evade(although it can be quite difficult at times, usually in the form of a
High Speed Missile Dodge). If anyone knows of such a trope on the site that I have missed, please do inform me of it. Because I have looked at several examples of games which have these kinds of weapons/ammunition and nothing on the page indicates their existence. While the above-linked High Speed Missile Dodge can apply, I'm looking for a term of the
ammunition or weapon itself. I have yet to find one. Dx
Okay... yeah, we need a TV Tropes thread somewhere. This is getting way out of hand from the topic of Rayman Origins. XD
Re: Rayman Origins
Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 1:53 am
by Sabertooth
Ephriokko wrote:Okay... yeah, we need a TV Tropes thread somewhere. This is getting way out of hand from the topic of Rayman Origins. XD
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=6312
Re: Rayman Origins
Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 1:56 am
by Ephriokko
Sabertooth1000000000 wrote:Ephriokko wrote:Okay... yeah, we need a TV Tropes thread somewhere. This is getting way out of hand from the topic of Rayman Origins. XD
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=6312
I found it sometime after I posted that. XD
Re: Rayman Origins
Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 3:21 am
by ParadoxJuice
So...any theories on gameplay? When do you think we'll get more info?
Re: Rayman Origins
Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 10:18 am
by Rsandee
Just... wait untill it's released?
That's what i do with the new FF game and TLOZ: Skyward Sword.
Re: Rayman Origins
Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 11:01 am
by Haruka
There aren't still more news about the game... and people who haven't a PS3 and/or an Xbox 360 must pray for the alternative platforming devices.