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StrangeSolo wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2023 1:36 pm

Greengoop wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2023 1:29 pm What’s your theory about why teensy and rayspecies magician are the same then?

I don't really have much a theory about it, I personally see it more as redesign thing from them, especially since they tried to make Rayman more unique and being the "the only limbless being", though Stone Men are exist in Origins and they're limbless too
But it also somewhat defeated the purpose for it, when in Legends they added more Rayman skins and all of them are treated as separate characters (Especially Rayomz), which is really weird.

Sorry to say, but that doesn’t really make any sense

SilverLum wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2023 1:35 pm

StrangeSolo wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2023 12:54 pm
It's also nice to see you too as well!
And I agree with you! I just really wish that they could carry his original lore and combine that with betrayal arc they were going for, with a bit different reasons and motivations for that of course, as his part of motivation for that is somewhat related to Mr. Dark and like trying to usurp his place (???), which is confusing, as Magician already had his own motivation for trying to take over the world in the scrapped script and leaked one as well

I feel like it's still related to Rayman 1, but they changed a lot of stuff from it so much, that it feels more like a reboot of the series rather than sequel, like Magician being suddenly Mr. Dark's fanboy thing or that they literally changed Bzzit's name into Moskito for no reason.

The reboot explanation is honestly a good one for all the inconsistencies, but I would have preferred them to tie in the other games somehow so it felt more familiar to people who played the previous games. I really do wonder why they went with this plot other than the one they scrapped.

I will ALWAYS call him Bzzit! It's such a cute name and they shouldn't have changed it.

Same here! I wish they could tie it with other games as well more properly, rather than adding the stuff from older games and change them drastically, like characterizations of some characters for example. As because of that, it feels more like a reboot than sequel at all.

I wonder as well! It feels like they scrapped the plot at the last minute, as there is stuff that it COULD be explained more, like Magician's betrayal and his reasons for that, if they didn't scrapped it out of sudden. But I also think that they should have polish that plot heavily, as it has so much confusing stuff, like him randomly called as "Mr. Dark" by Murfy for no reason or that thing about Bubble Dreamer being Big Mama boss.

And same here! I will always call him as Bzzit again! It's really weird that they kept his design (though with changes for the art style), but decided to change his name to Moskito.

Greengoop wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2023 1:38 pm

StrangeSolo wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2023 1:36 pm

Greengoop wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2023 1:29 pm What’s your theory about why teensy and rayspecies magician are the same then?

I don't really have much a theory about it, I personally see it more as redesign thing from them, especially since they tried to make Rayman more unique and being the "the only limbless being", though Stone Men are exist in Origins and they're limbless too
But it also somewhat defeated the purpose for it, when in Legends they added more Rayman skins and all of them are treated as separate characters (Especially Rayomz), which is really weird.

Sorry to say, but that doesn’t really make any sense

That's fine, it's just my personal opinion about it.
As I said before, I just see it more as redesign thing, that's it.

StrangeSolo wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2023 1:44 pm

Greengoop wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2023 1:38 pm

StrangeSolo wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2023 1:36 pm

Greengoop wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2023 1:29 pm What’s your theory about why teensy and rayspecies magician are the same then?

I don't really have much a theory about it, I personally see it more as redesign thing from them, especially since they tried to make Rayman more unique and being the "the only limbless being", though Stone Men are exist in Origins and they're limbless too
But it also somewhat defeated the purpose for it, when in Legends they added more Rayman skins and all of them are treated as separate characters (Especially Rayomz), which is really weird.

Sorry to say, but that doesn’t really make any sense

That's fine, it's just my personal opinion about it.
As I said before, I just see it more as redesign thing, that's it.

I mean, maybe reincarnations exist in the dream world?

Again Ales and the Wizard from Origins are probably not the same character, and if you still think that, explain to me why the MAGICIAN has no MAGIC powers

And bravo Greengoop

An for the Moskito is not the name of Bzzit, is the NAME of the species This is because there are several Moskito

Neither have tbh

And what are you congratulating me on? Thanks either way

Dumbo TV wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2023 2:07 pm Again Ales and the Wizard from Origins are probably not the same character, and if you still think that, explain to me why the MAGICIAN has no MAGIC powers

And bravo Greengoop

About that thing with Origins Magician being magicless, I still think it's related to the change of his characterization (and redesign too) as a whole and to give more reasons to take over the Glade of Dreams in that scrapped plot, as in previous games he had magic powers and in general was more way kinder character, but in Origins he can only fit in his hat, but he's basically now magicless Teensy and more like evil.

You really won’t give up your beliefs huh

Greengoop wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2023 2:15 pm You really won’t give up your beliefs huh

Nah, I don't give up my beliefs that easily.

It's also a bit weird that the hat star is a simple sticker
you'r ideas ?

Its pretty funny how you disproved your point yet still believe it

Yes but I think that the hat is a real one and that he simply stole it from the real Ales

Greengoop wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2023 2:19 pm Its pretty funny how you disproved your point yet still believe it

Can you please explain how I disproved my point here, Greegoop?

Dumbo TV wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2023 2:18 pm It's also a bit weird that the hat star is a simple sticker
you'r ideas ?

I think it's more a thing for that cutscene to show that he's no longer in Rayman's side and basically betrayed them.

About why you’re not sure why he changed sides

Greengoop wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2023 2:28 pm About why you’re not sure why he changed sides

Where I was unsure about why he changed sides? I was sure about it and didn't say anything about being unsure.

I'm sure about it and the reasons for it, but where did you even see that I wasn't sure?

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Greengoop wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2023 2:43 pm Previous page

I gently ask you to give me examples of that by quotes or something like that, rather than just referring me to previous page, Greengoop.

StrangeSolo wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2023 12:28 pm I feel like I will be ripped apart for this, but I'm not a fan of idea that Magician in Origins suddenly became Mr. Dark's fanboy, even as an UbiArt fan, especially with his previous history with Mr. Dark in older games it just feels out of character and random, especially after all of stuff that Mr. Dark did to him and his friends too.

Here’s good enough evidence?

Greengoop wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2023 3:04 pm

StrangeSolo wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2023 12:28 pm I feel like I will be ripped apart for this, but I'm not a fan of idea that Magician in Origins suddenly became Mr. Dark's fanboy, even as an UbiArt fan, especially with his previous history with Mr. Dark in older games it just feels out of character and random, especially after all of stuff that Mr. Dark did to him and his friends too.

Here’s good enough evidence?

That's not proof at all. And where I was unsure about it? I was sure about it and I also expressed my opinion about it and my feelings towards that.
And it's also unrelated at all, as I was expressing my opinion about him being Mr. Dark fanboy. It was just my opinion on this topic for UNPOPULAR opinions on Rayman.

So I don't get what are you trying to imply by this argument at all.

You say your random headcannon, then respond by not liking it SMH