Religion – your views

Does God exist?

  • Maybe

    Votes: 44 26.7%

  • Nope

    Votes: 70 42.4%

  • Yeah

    Votes: 51 30.9%
  • Total voters
    165
I disagree completely with that last bit. What you're basically saying is that if someone gets drunk and crashes a car they deserve to die, or if their impeded judgement leads them to insult a bunch of bikies they deserve to be horribly beaten.
 
I have to agree with HC on this one. Like the whole "If something isn't proven it doesn't exist" theory.
 
Serza5 said:
If a woman got drunk and had sex then she deserves to be pregnant therefore she shouldn't have an abortion.
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So you think her child deserves to grow up with no one to take care of them? C'mon, this is just unfair, you can't sentence someone to a shitty life.
 
All I have to say is that I love the Lord, and will always do my best to live for him. My life is in his hands. When I'm in trouble, he will deliver me from them if I follow him. He will never leve me nor forsake me.
 
So you think her child deserves to grow up with no one to take care of them? C'mon, this is just unfair, you can't sentence someone to a shitty life.
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Does her child deserve dieing ? No, the woman and the biological father should take responsibility for their actions. And give their child a life as good as she can provide.
 
There's nothing wrong with abortion in my eyes. Absolutely nothing at all. If a woman doesn't feel she can provide parental control over a child, she shoudn't be a mother as in the end it's the child's fate that is at stake.

And cruelty? Come on, don't make me laugh. Killing an undeveloped, mindless organism is as cruel as derooting a plant. Millions upon millions of sperm are terminated every single day, anyway, so what's so diabolical about ceasing a few more?
 
Hunchman801 said:
Serza5 said:
If a woman got drunk and had sex then she deserves to be pregnant therefore she shouldn't have an abortion.
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So you think her child deserves to grow up with no one to take care of them? C'mon, this is just unfair, you can't sentence someone to a shitty life.
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If all women who became pregnant as a result of consuming alcohol had abortions, the earth's population would be decreasing rapidly...

Just because the mother was drunk when the child was conceived doesn't mean it will have nobody to look after it. Nor does it indicate a "shitty life".
 
spiraldoor said:
If all women who became pregnant as a result of consuming alcohol had abortions, the earth's population would be decreasing rapidly...
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I doubt that.

If women who becomes pregant doesn't want children at that tiem take an abortion that's totally fine. Every child should be a planned and wanted child. Imo the right-to-lifers are a bunch of morons.
 
spiraldoor said:
Tobbe said:
Every child should be a planned and wanted child.
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You're saying that children which are wanted, but conceived accidentally, should be aborted?
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No. Pay attention and stop creating straw man arguments.
 
If all women who became pregnant as a result of consuming alcohol had abortions, the earth's population would be decreasing rapidly...
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We have an uncontrollably increasing population... it's more likely to stabalise it (although I see it unlikely to take much effect at all). Ergo aborting a child would actually be a plus, on that rather peculiar note.
 
The problem is that abortion obviously causes jumping to other side - the number of people is decreasing, probably very fast (you and me don't know yet how fast because there was no country with no immigrants and 100% free abortion for everyone, which is there for... a century.)
 
spiraldoor said:
If all women who became pregnant as a result of consuming alcohol had abortions, the earth's population would be decreasing rapidly...
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That's an incredibly dumb thing to say. I don't think the vast majority of babies on earth were "made" while women were too drunk to know what they were doing.
 
Limely said:
spiraldoor said:
If all women who became pregnant as a result of consuming alcohol had abortions, the earth's population would be decreasing rapidly...
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That's an incredibly dumb thing to say. I don't think the vast majority of babies on earth were "made" while women were too drunk to know what they were doing.
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On Earth, right, but in Poland, I think it could be even 30% in 50', and I suppose it's about 15% now, including drugs, smoking etc..

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And you know, if abortion would be a good thing, your so-called evolution would create natural aborter.
 
stan423321 said:
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And you know, if abortion would be a good thing, your so-called evolution would create natural aborter.
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Read this!

You obviously have no knowledge of evolution (which is solid fact, btw), demographics or life in general. Your arguments against abortion are laughable. Please put something decent on the table or stfu. I didn't revive this topic for this kind of bullshit.
 
Look who says that. But O.K., I'll read whatever you want. And while I don't know official statistics in very good way, I know they're lying, so I have to use my observations instead.

EDIT: I read it. I was already aware of this thing (just didn't know its English name) while I was posting my opinion. Firstly, if you didn't see, this was an obvious joke (warning). Secondly, the thing you quoted is never, I repeat, NEVER intentional in world of animals - and if you trust macroevolution (I know you do), you believe human is just like animal in this case, and for some reason this doesn't appear in cases it could save mother's life. Thirdly, your commenting everything which comes from Stan in case you don't like his opinion as crap or worse is because you have way different life in way different place with way different people, so things you saw are way different than ones I saw, and your opinion can vary - I accept it, you obviously don't.
 
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