Windows 7 or Windows 8?

[CubedLuck]

Sooner or later, I'm either going to be updating my computer or buying a new one, Now my father is pretty much saying "Without windows 8 your computer has sinned and is burning in hell". Please you lovely people, Give me your honest opinion , which should I get. I want windows 7 but I honestly don't know which is better.

[Dark Lum Lord]

Eh, haven't seen much of Windows 8, but from what I've seen I prefer Windows 7.

Edit: you seemed to have posted this thread twice on accident, just letting you know.

[Snagglebee]

Windows 7 has a slight better performance than Windows 8. GTA San Andreas played on Win7 at 100FPS on my laptop while on the same laptop on Windows 8 it was just 40 FPS.

[Bradandez]

Windows 7 seems more user friendly than Windows 8.

[Adsolution]

Windows 7 has a slight better performance than Windows 8.

Completely fucking incorrect. Windows 8 is far more optimised, lighter, smaller and performs faster in all regards, bar compatibility issues such as the performance you're witnessing with San Andreas.

Windows 8 is better, and functionally identical to Windows 7 if you install Classic Shell, which gives you the option to remove the Metro screen and return the Start button with its respective menu. The only difference between them at that point in 8 is the slightly cleaner interface, vastly improved system management (the new task manager alone is worth the upgrade), a search utility that works seemingly ten times as fast, faster boot times, better and less intrusive security, and more.

Unless you're suffering compatibility issues with a lot of what you do on Windows 8, there's no reason whatsoever not to upgrade. I hope people don't cling to Windows 7 like people did to XP, even when service packs for the later OSs removed any need for XP to even exist for any purpose in the modern day.


Almost every single complaint about Windows 8 has been in relation to the Metro screen, which like said before, can be removed via Classic Shell with the Se7en Start menu reinstalled. You never even have to touch the Metro screen anyway, all it is is an external UI for handling the interconnection between Microsoft's new brand of platforms. Essentially, instead of providing a separate OS for tablets and PCs, they made them exist within eachother, and none of it overlaps.

[Haruka]

In my opinion, it is not worth upgrading to Windows 8 if your computer does not feature touch interface (unless of course, you upgrade to 8.1 in order to get the Start screen right in the boot). Windows 7 is fine to me for now so I don't have the need to upgrade now (and I use Windows 7 for real since relatively few time because I only stopped using Windows XP in April 2012).

[Steo]

I'm interested as to how many people refuse to use windows 10 now that it's almost 5 years later since this thread was made. If you have a computer with a Kaby Lake (like me) or Ryzen then you get this crap from Microsoft as a little stunt to try force you to upgrade to their shit Windows 10 OS (which is based on telemetry):

Lying about unsupported hardware with constant interrupting pop-ups and trying to make you upgrade to WIndows 10, disabling your updates also in attempt to make you buy their bullshit.

I think this is ridiculous, it's bad enough that they charge people for their crappy OS but then they have the cheek to log all your info including keylogging which means they'll know all your passwords for a start. They charge you for their shit and then use it to log all of your precious data. I don't know about others, I have nothing to hide, but the point is I still don't like the thoughts of a billionaire company logging all of my personal data.

In windows 7 and 8, they weren't built with telemetry (spying) in mind so they implemented it with some telemetry updates which can just be uninstalled.

So in 2018, do you prefer Windows 7 or Windows 8/8.1?

[Aaron]

I prefer Windows 7 over 8 because it's beautiful! I like the transparent windows, the transparent task bar (well, as long as you don't change it to a different color), the glowing start button and the name of the start button itself on Windows 7 (the pearl button). Overall, Windows 7 has a certain charm to it that can never be replicated but if I had to update, I would still choose Windows 8/8.1.

[The Jonster]

I'm with Aaron, I prefer 7 over 8. All this talk about Win10 being shit and downgrading reminds me of another thread...

I miss those days of Windows 7...

[Steo]

I prefer 7 over 8 in itself but UEFI boots so much faster especially when you have an SSD, so I installed Windows 8.1 Pro on my PC instead.

[incognito]

Windows 7 all the way for me, although like all Windows it's genuinely shit, and I barely use it anymore, it's the one that's shall I say, is less shit. And I choose my words wisely here, I'm polite.

[Steo]

Windows 7 all the way for me, although like all Windows it's genuinely shit, and I barely use it anymore, it's the one that's shall I say, is less shit. And I choose my words wisely here, I'm polite.

I'd prefer Linux myself but the only problem is the compatibility with certain things. I've been thinking of dual booting for a while and using Windows for games and Linux for everything else.

[WizardMinecraft]

i perfer windows 7 because of all the 3rd party games it has installed when i got it.

[Steo]

After hearing about all of that crap I don't even know what to do anymore. I was using OneDrive but now I don't even know it it's OK to use or whether to just download everything to a big HDD and sign out of all that stuff.

I don't mind that the server has the files on it but logging keystrokes and stuff is just taking the piss.

Microsoft has become a keylogger virus.

[LoveMetal]

I genuinly think that Microsoft doesn't give a single shit about your user data and about what you are doing on a personal basis.

They are scrapping data because now all of their modern AI algorithms are based on reinforcement learning in some way. For instance, they prepare the most used binaries and libraries on your computer for them to start faster. And to know which libs you're using the most, well, they need to be aware of your habits. So they know that if you run program1.exe, they need to prepare program2.exe because you usually use them both at the same time.

Same with the keylogger, your inputs are used to improve their apps and services. Once your inputs sequences are passed to their ML algorithm, they will most likely disard them because they simply don't care about what you are typing (it should be written in their privacy policy, but I'm too lazy to read them).

All this fuss was started by ignorant tech journalists, so full of themselves that they thought that such a huge company like Microsoft was spying them.

Once again to be sure everyone got it memorized: Microsoft and all the tech giants doesn't give a shit about your personal data.

[Aaron]

Wait what? That's a huge invasion of privacy right there.

[Steo]

That's logical in a way but there's still one thing, why are you not given the option to opt out of it all then if they don't care? Like they give you options and one says Diagnostics, but you're not allowed disable it, you get Full or Basic.

I have an SSD and anyone else that has one will have a really fast PC and smooth experience either way so there's no need for any of that stuff.

I'm not liking the thought of them being able to retrieve my passwords and other stuff because though it would likely never happen, lets say there was a compromise and everyone's data is leaked. That's a huge problem there and there was nothing you could do about it because you're stuck with that telemetry crap you couldn't disable.

Then that unsupported hardware bullshit, like what are they forcing users to upgrade for? My computer is absolutely fine on Windows 7 or Windows 8 and doesn't need Windows 10. No matter what anyone said. Microsoft are forcing Windows 10 down your throat and that is complete bullshit in my opinion.

[Aaron]

Same. I don't understand why they do that when it's not even needed. They could just let users use what OS they want to use and not what Microsoft wants them to use. Man, Microsoft nowadays...

[LoveMetal]

That's logical in a way but there's still one thing, why are you not given the option to opt out of it all then if they don't care?

At the windows 10 installation, and in all huge subsequent updates, I'm given the option to disable some of these, for instance tracking or input data harvesting.

I have an SSD and anyone else that has one will have a really fast PC and smooth experience either way so there's no need for any of that stuff.

The example I wrote with program1.exe and program2.exe was indeed a very simplified example. The tech and the math behind their ML algorithms are over complicated. They are also operating as a very low level and I'm sure that without them your computer would run much slower, SSD or not.

I'm not liking the thought of them being able to retrieve my passwords and other stuff because though it would likely never happen, lets say there was a compromise and everyone's data is leaked.

Well, if a hacker intercept an outgoing connection from your computer, may it been from your web browser or from Microsoft data aggregator, it gets your password either way.

They could just let users use what OS they want to use and not what Microsoft wants them to use. Man, Microsoft nowadays...

Don't you think it may be correlated to the fact that they don't want to set dev teams and spend millions of dollars to maintain an operating system that came out nearly 10 years ago, only because 0.1% of Windows users still want to use it?

After all, Windows 10 is their product, they made it and they own it. When you install it you accept the terms and conditions. If you're not okay about them, then you could use Linux as your main OS, like Plum or inco.

It kind of reminds me people complaining in the youtube comments of every new released pop music. They keep saying that it was better in the 90's, but nobody forced them to go to a 2018 cheesy pop video.

[Steo]

That's what I plan on shortly and using WIndows for games. They're not really letting you turn those things off properly though, it gives yellow text on them explaining how they're still on but certain things won't be able to work. Windows 8 is only 5 years old anyway so they should support it until 2022 no matter how many people use it. If they weren't forcing people to update I guarantee you that more people would be using Windows 7 and 8 than 10.

Also it might be their product but €145 euro for Windows 10? I think if you pay that you should be allowed to use the software and configure it the way you want. Whatever they're up to I don't care, they're not logging anything else from me and I'm uninstalling every telemetry update.

I may very well start using Linux as my main OS once I can get a distro set up that I like.