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Hi guys, i need help! About Rayman 2.

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 5:42 pm
by RayMATE
Hi guys, it would be helpful if you know what I could do with my Rayman 2: The Great Escape, it installs, then I trying to run it nothing happends. I got Rayman 10th Anniversary Collection (Rayman M, Rayman 2, Rayman 3 & Rayman 3 Extra stuff) for pc! (ofc) ;).

And I got an (x64, Windows 10 system)

It might not be the help thread, but then send me to the right place and I will post it there. Im new so, thanx if you can say it.

Re: Hi guys, i need help! About Rayman 2.

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 7:08 pm
by Master
Moved to Rayman forums. I'm wondering if we should add a technical support sub-forum here, might make it easier for folk looking for solutions to find one, rather than using the search.

There may be a few patches lying about the forum, I'd search around the forums. That being said, the best and probably the most effective way to being able to play Rayman 2 on PC is getting the GoG.com version of the game if you can. You can get it here: https://www.gog.com/game/rayman_2_the_great_escape

Re: Hi guys, i need help! About Rayman 2.

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 7:42 pm
by RayMATE
Thanx @Master. It's great to see a nice community without angry people, and a great response.

Re: Hi guys, i need help! About Rayman 2.

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 7:57 pm
by RayCarrot
RayMATE wrote:Thanx @Master. It's great to see a nice community without angry people, and a great response.
Welcome to RPC!
Have you tried changing some of the setting in the GXSetup and running as administrator? Sometimes that helps, but not always. Otherwise the GOG version is probably the best alternative

Re: Hi guys, i need help! About Rayman 2.

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 11:06 am
by RayMATE
Carrot-master wrote:
RayMATE wrote:Thanx @Master. It's great to see a nice community without angry people, and a great response.
Welcome to RPC!
Have you tried changing some of the setting in the GXSetup and running as administrator? Sometimes that helps, but not always. Otherwise the GOG version is probably the best alternative
I'll see if that works later, at work. (On School-Work), Thanx.

Re: Hi guys, i need help! About Rayman 2.

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 10:39 pm
by Shrooblord
I'm wondering about the GOG version - trying to get it to run R2 in my VirtualBox Windows 10 environment at full 1920x1080 resolution. It runs... but it's *incredibly framey*. Not sure which settings to tweak yet to resolve that.

Re: Hi guys, i need help! About Rayman 2.

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 11:36 pm
by Master
What do you mean by "incredibly framey?" Do you refer to the FPS fluctuation? I found using nGlide solved the issue.

Re: Hi guys, i need help! About Rayman 2.

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 11:42 pm
by Shrooblord
Using nGlide is the problem. Maybe VirtualBox isn't liking it.
The FPS is around 5~20 if I had to estimate and it creates input latency of half a second on occasion, too.

Re: Hi guys, i need help! About Rayman 2.

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 11:52 pm
by Master
Hmm, I know some VMs don't behave so well with GPUs, back when I used a physical CD copy of R2 on my old laptop, I ran it in a VM using Win2000 on VMware Player, that did the trick for me.

Re: Hi guys, i need help! About Rayman 2.

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 11:56 pm
by Shrooblord
Yes I just recalled that my ancient and slow MacBook laptop is able to run Rayman 2 flawlessly from the GOG.com setup right out of the box, whereas this kickass iMac I'm running has severe trouble getting its frames to a reasonable level. The difference: the MacBook runs Parallels, the iMac VirtualBox. I'll play R2 exclusively on my laptop then. sad

Re: Hi guys, i need help! About Rayman 2.

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2015 12:17 am
by Master
I wish I could be of more use, but I'm not well versed with Macs. I do hope you find a viable solution, Shroob.

Re: Hi guys, i need help! About Rayman 2.

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2015 12:42 am
by deton24
The Virtual Box may be main reason of bad framerate in overall.
Have you installed guest addition in VB?
Or just Glide wrapper will work fine.

Re: Hi guys, i need help! About Rayman 2.

Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 8:52 pm
by gamerz31w
So Rayman 2 supports only Directx6.0,but if i downgrade directx 11.2 to direct 9.0 3d ripper will be working without downgrading my windows 8.1 to windows xp or windows 98 se or virtual memories?

Re: Hi guys, i need help! About Rayman 2.

Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 9:04 pm
by deton24
R2 supports DX6 and Glide (by nGlide wrapper).
DX is compatible with previous versions.
No need of any downgrade, at least not in matter of DX.
Maybe GOG version will be compulsory. (or copied old installed one from some virtual machine with XP).

Re: Hi guys, i need help! About Rayman 2.

Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 9:14 pm
by RayCarrot
If you have the latest version of DX the config won't recognize it, though if you edit the ubi.ini file manually and set these values to this it should work:
GLI_DllFile=GliDX6
GLI_Dll=DirectX6
GLI_Device=Direct3D HAL

Re: Hi guys, i need help! About Rayman 2.

Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 9:36 pm
by gamerz31w
I can't find ubi.ini in located in location where I installed rayman 2 i'll try in %appdata% or somewhere else(where games is saved).

Re: Hi guys, i need help! About Rayman 2.

Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 10:45 pm
by deton24
ehmm... maybe C:\Windows
So old version?...

Re: Hi guys, i need help! About Rayman 2.

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 5:34 am
by RayCarrot
In the GOG version the ubi.ini file is in the install directory and in the original version it's under C:\Windows\Ubisoft

Re: Hi guys, i need help! About Rayman 2.

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 11:18 am
by gamerz31w
I have normal version.I'll find GOG.com version for free by torrent or I'll buy on gog.com

Re: Hi guys, i need help! About Rayman 2.

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 6:49 pm
by Shrooblord
YES!
You guys, I found something *amazing* on the Internet.

There's this guy who made a WineSkin wrapper/tool thing that lets you play games inside MacOS like you're running a Windows machine. Here's his site's page on Rayman 2:
http://paulthetall.com/rayman-2-mac/
He also has something called the Porting Kit which has this whole page full of games on their servers that have already succesfully been ported. It's pretty good, at first glance. I was able to install Rayman 2 and play it. No lag, no virtual machine, all working fine.

The only comments I have so far is that it looks like 1990s graphics, which of course is bad, but does give me an immense sense of nostalgia because it reminds me of how Rayman 2 looked when I first played it. I'll investigate if I can up the graphics to make it more on-par with what we're used to from R2 on our current day machines.
Also, when you launch the game, the screen flickers a considerable amount of times and may fill up with a white square inside of black nothingness, which is scary at first - but then it actually runs fluently and without trouble. Great success!

Will update with future findings in this or a next post.


--UPDATE--
Managed to get it looking like Rayman 2 generally does on current-gen PCs!

What to do is this:
After installing the Rayman 2 app on the Porting Kit (Library > Server tab > download the wrapper > go to GOG.com > download the Windows installer and leave it in your Downloads folder > let the wrapper in the Porting Toolkit run through its installation procedure and follow all instructions, including the one telling you to press "cancel" when it prompts you for a Gecko installation - have patience; the process takes a while), go to your Local tab in Library and right click the Rayman 2 app. Select Properties.
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Click Advanced and Browse on the first tab in Advanced.
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Browse to the nglide_config.exe inside the created Rayman 2 app.
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Test Run the nglide_config.exe.
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Select the following options:
Screen Resoltion - By Desktop
Aspect Ratio - 4:3
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Next, set the WineSkin options to emulate a Windows XP computer ( Tools tab > Config Utility (winecfg) ). Apply and close.
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And finally, on the Configuration tab, Browse back to your Rayman2.exe executable inside the Rayman 2 app's directory (clicking Browse automatically takes you inside the app dir).
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Click Test Run to see if it works. If it does, close this Advanced Wineskin window and from hereon forwards, whenever you click Play in the Porting Kit, you'll have Rayman 2 running on your Mac desktop like it were a Windows XP computer, with correct aspect ratio and using your screen's resolution.
Note: there will still be the status bar at the top of the screen. If you find that annoying, feel free to experiment and tell me how to remove it if you find a way. I don't find it annoying so I didn't bother finding out how - sorry.

This will get Rayman 2 running on your Mac and looking like a current-gen computer running it. It will still just be 4:3, not widescreen, and not have fancy graphics. Now, I am content with this and thus did not pursue further tweakings following this process. You, however, are more than welcome trying deton24's various instructions on how to get this game working in widescreen, using a similar approach as I've done here. Good luck. Let me know if it works. :)

The benefit of this Rayman 2 version over normal Windows machines running the game: you can minimise the window and the game will turn into Rayman II - paused like on Windows, but instead, it won't crash when you try to reopen the game from minimisation. :P