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EU

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:12 pm
by El Dango
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Talk about anything that has something to do about the European Union here. :wink:

Re: EU

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:17 pm
by spiraldoor
They were going to reform the EU with the Lisbon Treaty. Lisbon would have done loads of little things, but I think the most interesting thing would have been that it was going to merge all EU countries into a single state. Because of some annoying little detail, Ireland had to have a referendum on it, rather than the government just deciding and saying Yes, like all the other EU countries. The Irish people voted No, and there's talk of a second referendum in late 2009.

My two cents, just putting it out there.

Re: EU

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:23 pm
by Limely
That sounds strange.

Anyways, Norway's not even a part of EU, lal.

Re: EU

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:26 pm
by El Dango
spiraldoor wrote:They were going to reform the EU with the Lisbon Treaty. Lisbon would have done loads of little things, but I think the most interesting thing would have been that it was going to merge all EU countries into a single state.
I can't believe i haven't heard about that! :confus:

But i really hope other countries will join. Including Norway and Switzerland.

Re: EU

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:27 pm
by Limely
I hope we won't. That will really give local farmers and such a really hard time here.

Re: EU

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:29 pm
by El Dango
How come?

Re: EU

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:53 pm
by Limely
Because our farmers can't make food cheap enough to compete against the imported food, and so Norwegian food will be a lot more expensive than imported food, people will prefer the imported food and buy that instead. Then farmers will have to close down their farms because the income is no good, and then a lot of people in the Norwegian food industries will loose their jobs, not just farmers, but also those who work at the big diaries and in other companies, like Tine, etc.
Another reason is that EU only has one vote when FN (UN, United Nations in English I think) make important desicions. Norway also has a vote of their own and would like to keep that rather than rely on UN to take the right desicion because we like to think that we are important.
Another argument is that, because we are a rich country, we will most likely have to use a lot of money to help those countries in EU that are not so rich.
Those are the arguments I know of. There's probably a lot more but I'm not that interested in it so I don't know too much about it..

Re: EU

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 4:05 pm
by El Dango
Well, i get your first point, but that could be fixed eventually.
And most countries in EU have money. Denmark is still a rich country, even through we are a part of EU too.

Re: EU

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 4:57 pm
by Tobbe
The truth is that Norway is in reality a part of EU. We're a part of the EEA (European Economic Area, EØS in Norwegian), which basically means that we have to everything the EU says, but we aren't allowed to be a part of making decisions.

Re: EU

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 9:15 pm
by Joshua822
EU Rocks :yeah: 63 years of peace, freedom and buying video games cheaper over the border prove that :mrgreen:

Europe is going in the right direction if you ask me :) Well, i hope every europian country joins, really. And i'm 100% sure we could make a agreement that both Norwegian and the rest of Europe would be happy with. If it couldn't, europe wouldn't stand where it stands nowadays.

Re: EU

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 9:29 pm
by Tobbe
Joshua822 wrote:...agreement that both Norwegian and the rest of Europe would be happy with.
Norwegian is an airline. Norway, on the other hand, is a country. :|

Re: EU

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 7:23 am
by Holy Crap
Perhaps he meant to say Nowegians?

Re: EU

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 4:35 pm
by Xenon
More likely Norway.

Anyway what exactly are we supposed to be discussing about the EU? We need some specifics.

Re: EU

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 4:42 pm
by Joshua822
Do you like it ? What could we do better ?

Things like that.

Re: EU

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 6:26 pm
by Acarr
I'd like it if we used Euros here. We are part of EU anyway, and it'll be alot easier when going on holiday.

Re: EU

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 7:55 pm
by El Dango
Xenon wrote:More likely Norway.

Anyway what exactly are we supposed to be discussing about the EU? We need some specifics.
"We"? You're the only one so far. :P

Re: EU

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 8:27 pm
by Joshua822
Tough i hope we can the Lisabon thing in action. With the economical crisis it would be a real help for europe.

Re: EU

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 8:34 pm
by spiraldoor

Re: EU

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 8:46 pm
by Serza5
Acarr wrote:I'd like it if we used Euros here. We are part of EU anyway, and it'll be alot easier when going on holiday.
I know we have to be different, even if it's just Scotland that gets euros then i'm happy.

Re: EU

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 9:30 pm
by Acarr
Yeah...does the Goverment think they own this country?? :)