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DOTK part 3 secret. Final conclusion inside

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Been wanting to do this for a while. Finally got around to it after holidays. Unfortunately I have no idea if this has been done already.

link Here

Explanation:
Ok let me explain. Obviously if there was a hidden area, the door would retract.
In the dotk wireframe there is nothing behind that door.

In tls to access the hidden ly statue there is an animation of a door retracting.
When I got there I didn't even need to be in the same area to see the secret, hence there is nothing in DOTK.
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Lol, fake. 2 wireframe pictures pasted over each other. You could have tried to make it more believable though. You know, by actually making the wireframe lines from TLS go all across the picture instead of just having them cover a perfect rectangle?
It would've been fun if people actually believed this though... :P
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wtf are you talking about? the big one is at DOTK, the other at TLS that shows through the door and you can see the ly statue
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So, what are you trying to tell us then?
Basically, you're showing us 2 wireframe pictures, one of them presenting the landscape of DOTK, the other one revealing the tiny secret temple in TLS
What is the sense in this? It surely looks nice, but are you trying to convince us there is a secret in DOTK (or not)?
You confused the heck outta me
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Gamerking wrote:wtf are you talking about? the big one is at DOTK, the other at TLS that shows through the door and you can see the ly statue
That makes no sense, It's just a big fail.
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Can someone lock this? The topic is not making any sense.
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Why the quick judgement? Apparently, it seems like it doesn't make a lot of sense, but I'd like to hear what the guy has to answer, if I'm allowed to :?
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I think he's saying there is no secret in TDOTK part 3 because of the absence of a door. But this is common knowledge amongst committed scorers because I've already investigated this area (assuming this image represents the room that features a Knaaren supposedly guarding nothing at all).
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Xenon wrote:I think he's saying there is no secret in TDOTK part 3 because of the absence of a door. But this is common knowledge amongst committed scorers because I've already investigated this area (assuming this image represents the room that features a Knaaren supposedly guarding nothing at all).
I knew about your investigation, and I was pretty certain that a secret room in DOTK Part 3 probably doesn't exist as well.
However, even though chances are low, I'm really curious about this area, and anticipated his answer nonetheless
They're still some potential flaws influecing the likeliness of such a room: What if it needs to be activated at first? Maybe the trigger even exists in Part 2?
I'm not entirely sure, but it's the same principle as in TTOTL Part 2, where the green gem only gets visible through the switch (I'm not sure whether we can confirm that you would have discovered the emerald even with the help of the shock rocket
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Yeah, I'm still not convinced there aren't undiscovered treasures to be found in part 3. The requirements to reach 100% are just too demanding.

At the beginning of the level there is a teleportation device beyond the gang of Knaaren. Why use teleportation in such an obvious place? The mysteriously illuminated paving slabs in the larger rooms are also intriguing...
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Xenon wrote:Yeah, I'm still not convinced there aren't undiscovered treasures to be found in part 3. The requirements to reach 100% are just too demanding.

At the beginning of the level there is a teleportation device beyond the gang of Knaaren. Why use teleportation in such an obvious place? The mysteriously illuminated paving slabs in the larger rooms are also intriguing...
Very true
When I played DOTK recently, I tried everything to solve the myth
Luring the Knaaren to the bridge so you can fly over them by using the wall is not a problem, but yeah, the teleportation is. I rolled into the area, jumped weirdly, shot some fists, but nothing happened. Obviously, you can see a pathway leading to the left, but I couldn't see anything
As for the blue traces, I always assumed they're merely indicating the respawn/birth zone for those zombie chickens, but you're right, there might be more behind it
I wish that MandM would be right with his April Fool's Story :tssk:
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Xenon wrote:I think he's saying there is no secret in TDOTK part 3 because of the absence of a door. But this is common knowledge amongst committed scorers because I've already investigated this area (assuming this image represents the room that features a Knaaren supposedly guarding nothing at all).
I never saw this glitch before. The guy putted the photo mode with the Shock Rocket and it seems he got able to use the rocket infinitely.
mostwanted82 wrote:Why the quick judgement? Apparently, it seems like it doesn't make a lot of sense, but I'd like to hear what the guy has to answer, if I'm allowed to :?
Sorry MostWanted.
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It would make perfect sense if there was something behind that invisible teleporter. It is positioned just beyond the Knaaren's reach.

:(

@ Haruka: I was the one who recorded that video. It's an awesome glitch that disproved the possibility of there being hidden 'rooms'.
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Xenon wrote: @ Haruka: I was the one who recorded that video. It's an awesome glitch and disproved the possibility of there being hidden 'rooms'.
Sorry! :oops2:

So you did the video. You recorded this with a Playstation 2 R3 copy right? I wonder if this works for the other versions.
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Haruka wrote: Sorry MostWanted.
No problem, don't take it offensive, I was in a weird mood somehow :noel:

Also, I didn't zoom in the left pathway, whether they're any gems/triggers/other objects, I'll do that on my next run as I have to perfect DOTK anyway, might be useful
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Xenon wrote:It would make perfect sense if there was something behind that invisible teleporter.
Would it? The teleporter makes it seem like the developers really didn’t want anyone to get in there, and secret areas are meant to be discovered.
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spiraldoor wrote:[
Would it? The teleporter makes it seem like the developers really didn’t want anyone to get in there, and secret areas are meant to be discovered.
So, you're basically saying that, given such a secret room really exists, the teleporter just serves as protection and there could be other ways to access this area?
I think it's a pretty cruel joke anyway. We've spent hours exploiting the part, but we could never find something more than vague/strong indicators. Oh well, the hope dies at last :|
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No, I’m saying that I doubt there’s a secret area there at all. I think the tunnel just leads to the edge of the map, and the developers put in a teleporter there so that anyone who managed to get in would be returned to the beginning of the level. If they were putting a secret area in that tunnel (which I believe exists for the sole purpose of hiding a few Knaaren), then they would not have blocked it off with such an insurmountable obstacle as an invisible, impassable teleporter.
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I'm cynical as well. However, consider this: Rayman finds a hidden teleporter and gets teleported to this hypothetical secret area. Once in this area, he is trapped because of the Knaaren blockage, so a teleporter is the only viable way of returning to safety.
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That makes some sense, but it doesn’t explain why the teleporter in the tunnel is invisible.
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