Ace Attorney

[Magelin]

Master suggested to make an Ace Attorney topic (i know it was yesterday but i was busy), so here we go!
Also it's kinda weird there haven't been an Ace Attorney topic yet, i mean the first game's localization is out for 19 years already!
To adress Master's comments in more detail :

Haha I would love to see Oldbag show up again, the way she just gets everyone off-guard and immediately tripping over themselves always makes for a funny interaction.

Agreed! It would be just really funny to see her after all those years, still kicking. Even more funnier is to see Apollo deal with her hijinks lol

Maggey Byrde would also be cool to see again, just to see if she's finally gotten over her string of misfortune.

Yeah, i wonder what she's doing now? She was a security guard in Investigations, but i think they fired her again (poor Maggey ) . Not to mention, did Gumshoe ever confess to her?

As for Lana, I can't remember the ending of Rise from the Ashes, she was found innocent of murder but wasn't she still imprisoned for corruption since she was still complicit in helping Gant? It would be nice to catch up and see how things did end up panning out, especially considering Ema's been around for a while now without that being addresssed (at least as far from what I've seen of the later games).

I think she was just imprisoned for being an accomplice, or that what the wiki says anyway. But yeah, it would be really nice to see a mention of Lana. I mean, it's been 11 years since RftA happened. Maybe she's out of jail? And Ema never mentions her in any dialogue, but i heard that DD and SOJ have the no spoiler policy, basically meaning that the events of the previous games are not adressed. I don't know if that's really true, but it seems so...

[Master]

Master suggested to make an Ace Attorney topic (i know it was yesterday but i was busy), so here we go!
Also it's kinda weird there haven't been an Ace Attorney topic yet, i mean the first game's localization is out for 19 years already!
To adress Master's comments in more detail :

Haha I would love to see Oldbag show up again, the way she just gets everyone off-guard and immediately tripping over themselves always makes for a funny interaction.

Agreed! It would be just really funny to see her after all those years, still kicking. Even more funnier is to see Apollo deal with her hijinks lol

Ohh I would love to see how the newer cohort would handle her, I feel like Blackquill would be particularly interesting. For all his cool demeanour I think Oldbag could be one of the ones who could trip him up.

Maggey Byrde would also be cool to see again, just to see if she's finally gotten over her string of misfortune.

Yeah, i wonder what she's doing now? She was a security guard in Investigations, but i think they fired her again (poor Maggey ) . Not to mention, did Gumshoe ever confess to her?

Oh yeah I forgot that was a subplot of the Recipe for Turnabout. Yeah I'd love to know, perhaps they're both doomed cause they both tend to have bad luck
Think they both could do with a win.

As for Lana, I can't remember the ending of Rise from the Ashes, she was found innocent of murder but wasn't she still imprisoned for corruption since she was still complicit in helping Gant? It would be nice to catch up and see how things did end up panning out, especially considering Ema's been around for a while now without that being addresssed (at least as far from what I've seen of the later games).

I think she was just imprisoned for being an accomplice, or that what the wiki says anyway. But yeah, it would be really nice to see a mention of Lana. I mean, it's been 11 years since RftA happened. Maybe she's out of jail? And Ema never mentions her in any dialogue, but i heard that DD and SOJ have the no spoiler policy, basically meaning that the events of the previous games are not adressed. I don't know if that's really true, but it seems so...

Wait is that why they're very vague when it comes to events from the OT? I haven't played the (originally) 3DS games, but I did find it strange that when Maya showed up again, Mia didn't really get much of a mention. I suppose it makes sense since they've probably moved on by now, but considering the focus on the Kurain in Spirit of Justice, I think she should've been a little more involved.

[Magelin]

Ohh I would love to see how the newer cohort would handle her, I feel like Blackquill would be particularly interesting. For all his cool demeanour I think Oldbag could be one of the ones who could trip him up.

Oh, Blackquill would absolutely hate her xD
I bet she would go on some crazy tantrum, and then Simon sends out Taka to deal with her (Taka is Blackquill’s hawk, if you didn’t know)

Oh yeah I forgot that was a subplot of the Recipe for Turnabout. Yeah I'd love to know, perhaps they're both doomed cause they both tend to have bad luck
Think they both could do with a win.

Yup, but i think Gumshoe still works as a detective back at Criminal Affairs… I mean, you know the confetti thrown after the case ends? Apparently, it’s Edgeworth literally cutting Gumshoes salary checks and throwing them in the air or something.. I need to verify that, though. But in AJ, DD and SOJ, there’s still confetti being thrown. So where is this confetti coming from?? Wright in SOJ also says that he keeps in contact with Gumshoe, but that’s literally it. (not like he mentioned his name but it was implied)

Wait is that why they're very vague when it comes to events from the OT? I haven't played the (originally) 3DS games, but I did find it strange that when Maya showed up again, Mia didn't really get much of a mention. I suppose it makes sense since they've probably moved on by now, but considering the focus on the Kurain in Spirit of Justice, I think she should've been a little more involved.

Yeah, they pretty much don’t refer to the events of the previous games. There is some references here and there, but i don’t think that really counts.

[Magelin]

Ohh I would love to see how the newer cohort would handle her, I feel like Blackquill would be particularly interesting. For all his cool demeanour I think Oldbag could be one of the ones who could trip him up.

Oh, Blackquill would absolutely hate her xD
I bet she would go on some crazy tantrum, and then Simon sends out Taka to deal with her (Taka is Blackquill’s hawk, if you didn’t know)

Oh yeah I forgot that was a subplot of the Recipe for Turnabout. Yeah I'd love to know, perhaps they're both doomed cause they both tend to have bad luck
Think they both could do with a win.

Yup, but i think Gumshoe still works as a detective back at Criminal Affairs… I mean, you know the confetti thrown after the case ends? Apparently, it’s Edgeworth literally cutting Gumshoes salary checks and throwing them in the air or something.. I need to verify that, though. But in AJ, DD and SOJ, there’s still confetti being thrown. So where is this confetti coming from?? Wright in SOJ also says that he keeps in contact with Gumshoe, but that’s literally it. (not like he mentioned his name but it was implied)

Wait is that why they're very vague when it comes to events from the OT? I haven't played the (originally) 3DS games, but I did find it strange that when Maya showed up again, Mia didn't really get much of a mention. I suppose it makes sense since they've probably moved on by now, but considering the focus on the Kurain in Spirit of Justice, I think she should've been a little more involved.

Yeah, they pretty much don’t refer to the events of the previous games. There is some references here and there, but i don’t think that really counts.
EDIT : I was right about the confetti thing, but i’ve also made a little mistake. The one cutting salary checks is not Edgeworth, but Gumshoe! https://www.reddit.com/r/AceAttorney/co ... ?rdt=57965

[Master]

Oh, Blackquill would absolutely hate her xD
I bet she would go on some crazy tantrum, and then Simon sends out Taka to deal with her (Taka is Blackquill’s hawk, if you didn’t know)

I don't think even Taka could handle her, and if Simon tries one of his slashes, she'd probably somehow manage to parry it before going on a tirade about young whippersnappers xD

Yup, but i think Gumshoe still works as a detective back at Criminal Affairs… I mean, you know the confetti thrown after the case ends? Apparently, it’s Edgeworth literally cutting Gumshoes salary checks and throwing them in the air or something.. I need to verify that, though. But in AJ, DD and SOJ, there’s still confetti being thrown. So where is this confetti coming from?? Wright in SOJ also says that he keeps in contact with Gumshoe, but that’s literally it. (not like he mentioned his name but it was implied)

Haha, now that definitely sounds like the sorta thing Gumshoe would do. Perhaps after all the salary cutting, he ended up taking up a job as the court's confetti thrower...probably still a poor salary mind.

Yeah, they pretty much don’t refer to the events of the previous games. There is some references here and there, but i don’t think that really counts.

To be fair, much as I like references to the past, I don't feel it's fair on writers to have make explicit callbacks all the time, if they're trying to tell a story of their own having too much references can distract from the plot being made. I think there's a balance to be had there.

EDIT : I was right about the confetti thing, but i’ve also made a little mistake. The one cutting salary checks is not Edgeworth, but Gumshoe! https://www.reddit.com/r/AceAttorney/co ... ?rdt=57965

Oh goddamn it Gumshoe xD

[Magelin]

I don't think even Taka could handle her, and if Simon tries one of his slashes, she'd probably somehow manage to parry it before going on a tirade about young whippersnappers xD

Haha, now that definitely sounds like the sorta thing Gumshoe would do. Perhaps after all the salary cutting, he ended up taking up a job as the court's confetti thrower...probably still a poor salary mind.

Is that even a real job, i wonder?

To be fair, much as I like references to the past, I don't feel it's fair on writers to have make explicit callbacks all the time, if they're trying to tell a story of their own having too much references can distract from the plot being made. I think there's a balance to be had there.

I agree with you! Well, the 3DS games use references kinda sparingly, like when you’re examining stuff or pick the wrong choice or something, it doesn’t really affect the plot. The main thing that affects the plot of the 3DS games.. is flashbacks. Like when used sparingly, flashbacks can be really good, but both DD and SOJ just show the flashback 3 times in a row and it kinda ruins the whole mood.

[Master]

Haha, now that definitely sounds like the sorta thing Gumshoe would do. Perhaps after all the salary cutting, he ended up taking up a job as the court's confetti thrower...probably still a poor salary mind.

Is that even a real job, i wonder?

It's not, but the judge felt pity xD

To be fair, much as I like references to the past, I don't feel it's fair on writers to have make explicit callbacks all the time, if they're trying to tell a story of their own having too much references can distract from the plot being made. I think there's a balance to be had there.

I agree with you! Well, the 3DS games use references kinda sparingly, like when you’re examining stuff or pick the wrong choice or something, it doesn’t really affect the plot. The main thing that affects the plot of the 3DS games.. is flashbacks. Like when used sparingly, flashbacks can be really good, but both DD and SOJ just show the flashback 3 times in a row and it kinda ruins the whole mood.

Ahh repetitiveness, I see how that can get a little distracting.

Hmm, I think at any rate, it's probably about time I properly experienced the Apollo Trilogy, moreso cause it did release recently on Steam, so now's a good time.

[Magelin]

It's not, but the judge felt pity xD

Hahah!

Hmm, I think at any rate, it's probably about time I properly experienced the Apollo Trilogy, moreso cause it did release recently on Steam, so now's a good time.

Oh, hope you enjoy them! Also.. Have you played the Investigations games before? The first one is pretty mediocre, but the second one is really good!

[Master]

Oh shit I forgot about AAI. No I haven't, the second one wasn't translated for ages wasn't it? I think an official translated version just came out this year as part of an AAI HD remaster?

[Magelin]

Oh shit I forgot about AAI. No I haven't, the second one wasn't translated for ages wasn't it? I think an official translated version just came out this year as part of an AAI HD remaster?

You’re right! If i remember correctly it wasn’t translated for 13 years, i think? And the fan-translation came out like 10 years ago.
So yeah, it has been really long ago.

[Master]

Time truly does fly huh. Yeah I remember there was some rationale about the games not doing well enough internationally for them to be compelled to want to translate. If memory serves that was a similar rationale that led to The Great Ace Attorney not getting translated until recently right?

Annnd there's another subseries I should play xD. Actually I remember I started Professor Layton Vs Ace Attorney a while ago on 3DS, but I ended up fizzling out on that. Seeing as I've just beaten Rayman Legends, I could do with something different to do, perhaps I ought to carry on with that.

[Magelin]

Time truly does fly huh. Yeah I remember there was some rationale about the games not doing well enough internationally for them to be compelled to want to translate. If memory serves that was a similar rationale that led to The Great Ace Attorney not getting translated until recently right?

Annnd there's another subseries I should play xD. Actually I remember I started Professor Layton Vs Ace Attorney a while ago on 3DS, but I ended up fizzling out on that. Seeing as I've just beaten Rayman Legends, I could do with something different to do, perhaps I ought to carry on with that.

Well, i do remember hearing that the first Investigations game didn’t sell very well, idk about TGAA though, but i think you’re probably right.
Haha, i kinda feel that, i myself also have a endless list of games and stuff i should watch.. I haven’t played the Layton crossover yet (and TGAA, for that matter)
Also i just convinced Greengoop to play the PW trilogy, and now i convinced you to play AAI collection and AJ trilogy… Seems like my plan is working

[Master]

Haha tbf it's one of those games I'd probably get round to eventually, but it's always nice to be reminded xD

[Droolie]

These games are so good. I played both AA trilogies and the GAA duology these past 2 years (and Ghost Trick), and I'm currently playing AAI!
Of course my favorites are AA3 and AA1. A lot of people don't like the 3DS games as much but I thought they were quite good too, I especially liked SOJ. It was great to see Maya again after a 2 game absence, and the final case was really emotional!
For AAI so far I must say I'm not a big fan of talking to the characters in a "side view", it feels less personal somehow. But it's pretty fun still. Two big parts of what makes this series so good are the music and the humor, and both of those are still going strong here.
This series has been on a roll recently, here's hoping we'll get an AA7 announcement soon.

[Magelin]

These games are so good. I played both AA trilogies and the GAA duology these past 2 years (and Ghost Trick), and I'm currently playing AAI!
Of course my favorites are AA3 and AA1. A lot of people don't like the 3DS games as much but I thought they were quite good too, I especially liked SOJ. It was great to see Maya again after a 2 game absence, and the final case was really emotional!
For AAI so far I must say I'm not a big fan of talking to the characters in a "side view", it feels less personal somehow. But it's pretty fun still. Two big parts of what makes this series so good are the music and the humor, and both of those are still going strong here.
This series has been on a roll recently, here's hoping we'll get an AA7 announcement soon.

I think everybody can agree the 3rd game is one of the best in the entire franchise!
It’s such a experience, especially 3-5! You get to play as Edgeworth for a short while, every important character is here, and of course that reveal..
I also like the 1st game a lot. 1-4 is still on my mind, and 1-5 has such an enjoyable cast!
And i do agree with the notion that the 3DS games aren’t all that bad.
Like, when i heard that Dual Destinies was so “awful”, i decided to check for myself. And you know what? I enjoyed it a heck ton, really!
Obviously, there is some flaws here, with the gameplay and the storytelling. But i really liked it! I would go on a ramble about DD but i feel like my browser is gonna crash, again
And Spirit of Justice is one of my favorite ones! There’s not a single really bad case, like 6-1 is kind of rough around the edges, and 6-DLC could be written better, but they’re not really all that bad.
The final case is really good, i was gasping at every moment lmao (Also, when i was playing the first part of the case, i was like “Oh, Dhurke is gonna die because every good father is dead in AA xD”. Well, it might seem crazy what i’m about to say.. )
As for AAI, i got used to side sprites pretty quickly. I also think they did a good job on the returning characters sprites and making them sideways, like for example in AAI2 Larry’s sprite when he is wielding a paintbrush and Lotta’s looking away with a pouty expression on her face.
And yeah, the music and the humor is what truly makes Ace Attorney, but i think the sound effects are also really important in here. I can’t imagine a game without the “bam” sound effect, the “realization” sound effect, and of course, the OBJECTIONS!
The franchise is doing great, that’s for sure. I’m so glad i got around to play the games around this summer. Hoping we get an a AA7, too! And give us a girl prosecutor this time, Franzy and Robin need a friend, after all

[Game Ze 2]

(AA is well-known in China)

[Magelin]

(AA is well-known in China)

I can certainly see that!
That art of Phoenix, Apollo and Athena wearing Tres Bien uniforms though

[Game Ze 2]

I remembered this.

[Magelin]

Ahah, that’s a good one!
Also, Nick and Maya mimicking Godot’s special technique of spitting out drinks

[Magelin]

So, Summer Game Fest has just begun, right? And Capcom is participating in it, too…
Well, i’m not saying that there will be a new Ace Attorney game, but there are some hints out there to a new The Great Ace Attorney game!
I dunno if Capcom will make AA7, considering that cliffhanger and all, but TGAA as a whole has a lot of potential, not to mention the ending where they tease a bit what’s coming next. So! The defense will present their evidence! Starting off with…
1. Anniversary and interview
The Great Ace Attorney : Adventures, is going to turn 10 next July! Still cannot believe that this game is that old
Anyways, a lot of Japanese game creators were interviewed, and Hashimoto, who worked on AJT and AAIC, was also interviewed! Here is what he said :

“2025 will mark the 10th anniversary of The Great Ace Attorney. Thank you so much! We are deeply grateful for all the support we’ve received from our fans, and we’re making preparations to ensure everyone can enjoy the 10th anniversary.”

Obviously, “preparations” can just mean merch, or simply a new artwork, but still..
2. Twitter Captions
If the previous one didn’t convince you, then this one probably will! Basically, the promos (specifically, the ones for AJT and AAIC) posted on Twitter (or X, i don’t care), have captions. The thing is, the captions are only shown at the beginning - the rest has none.
This post right here has screenshots of that. Notice the name said in the captions, “van Zieks”. Almost, as if.. they are hinting at something!
3. Capcom Cafe Collaboration
And last, but not least, Capcom Cafe is collaborating with TGAA! Which gave us this very cute art (i just really wanted to post it )

It’s also a pretty pleasant surprise to see less popular characters, like Rei and Tusspells on here!
That’s all! I’m just hoping a new TGAA game comes out and i’m not going insane