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Ray-people conflict

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 11:09 pm
by maxxyboy1000
Hello,

I was playing Rayman 1 today, and in the forest of forgetfulness, I noticed that Tarazan looked exactly like Rayman, except, he was a darker tint. Which reminded me of the Ray-people. And how most, if not all, of the people in rayman 1, were missing limbs.

All fine. But when I started playing Rayman 2, later on that day, I was reading the lore, and it stated that Rayman was the ONLY creature not to be created by Polokus.
So where do the other Ray-people come in?

Is rayman from another 'world'? A world in which Betilla lived also?
Or maybe the other ray-people were created by Polokus?
Or maybe they simply missed being mentioned, as they showed no appearance in Rayman 2 onwards?

Re: Ray-people conflict

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 11:31 pm
by Adsolution
The developers figured that they wanted Rayman to be the only limbless being more so and more so as they went along, and thus we just have to ignore the fact that many people in Rayman 1 are limbless.

Re: Ray-people conflict

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:25 am
by THEdragon
I've been thinking the same thing. Not only were all the characters in Rayman 1 limbless, but there were also a few characters who were obviously the same species as Rayman. But then, after that, the developers pull the whole "Rayman is unique" thing? XD

Yeah, I guess we're just supposed to re-imagine all of the Rayman 1 characters in Rayman Origins style, and the characters of Rayman's species being... Teensies, or something. XD

Re: Ray-people conflict

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:23 pm
by Master
Rayman Origins' has made it clear that the only limbless character is Rayman and his Dark Counterpart.
The rest have been retconned into other species, mostly Teensies.
The only characters that I hold any confusion over as to their current appearance are Mr. Dark (We've only seen a silhouette of the real guy) and Joe (Though I imagine it would be him with just limbs)

Re: Ray-people conflict

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:45 pm
by THEdragon
Master4lyf1 wrote:Rayman Origins' has made it clear that the only limbless character is Rayman and his Dark Counterpart.
The rest have been retconned into other species, mostly Teensies.
The only characters that I hold any confusion over as to their current appearance are Mr. Dark (We've only seen a silhouette of the real guy) and Joe (Though I imagine it would be him with just limbs)
Yea, a character like Joe would be easy to bring back with limbs, some others, not so much.

*Soul dies at the thought of hippie musician teensie*

Re: Ray-people conflict

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 10:40 pm
by stan423321
Rayman in R2, ALAIK, is the only thing that nobody knows where it comes from.

This confronted with existence of Tarayzan and possibly more hole-y (don't drop the "e") leads to very... umm... surprising results... if you don't see it yet, let me explain - it's a fact Tarayzan is similar to Rayman, and yet somebody knows where does Tarayzan come from.

I suppose they, as sad as it is, indeed retcon something here, because, as explained above, we otherwise get pretty pervert story around here.

Re: Ray-people conflict

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 4:58 am
by THEdragon
It would be really cool if Ubisoft could somehow bring back the rest of Rayman's kind in a future game.

But it won't happen.

Because it's easier to wipe out a species and say it never happened. :fou:

Re: Ray-people conflict

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 2:54 pm
by spiraldoor
THEdragon wrote:It would be really cool if Ubisoft could somehow bring back the rest of Rayman's kind in a future game.
That would make the appearances of Betilla, the Magician, the Livingstones and the Hunters in Rayman Origins very difficult to explain.

Re: Ray-people conflict

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:03 pm
by Adsolution
THEdragon wrote:It would be really cool if Ubisoft could somehow bring back the rest of Rayman's kind in a future game.
I don't agree, I think the idea of Rayman being the only limbless being is far more interesting.

Re: Ray-people conflict

Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:07 am
by Sabertooth
So are we to assume that Tarayzan and the Musician never existed, are Teensies, or are just humans with arms and legs like Clark?
THEdragon wrote: *Soul dies at the thought of hippie musician teensie*
Love it. Love every bit of it.

Re: Ray-people conflict

Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:48 am
by THEdragon
Sabertooth1000000000 wrote:So are we to assume that Tarayzan and the Musician never existed, are Teensies, or are just humans with arms and legs like Clark?
THEdragon wrote: *Soul dies at the thought of hippie musician teensie*
Love it. Love every bit of it.
I'd rather they just not exist than be turned into some other species! >_<

And besides, when I do fanart of fanfiction I won't even stick to canon lol

Re: Ray-people conflict

Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 8:33 am
by maxxyboy1000
THEdragon wrote:
Sabertooth1000000000 wrote:So are we to assume that Tarayzan and the Musician never existed, are Teensies, or are just humans with arms and legs like Clark?
THEdragon wrote:I'd rather they just not exist than be turned into some other species! >_<
Agreed. I stick to believe that they never existed. Or they missed mention, and will never be heard from again.

Re: Ray-people conflict

Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 4:08 pm
by Lianna
Are the limblesses are born as babies, not created from people?

Re: Ray-people conflict

Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 4:10 pm
by spiraldoor
Pretending that Tarayzan and the Musician never existed is rather silly, considering that Tarayzan was almost included as a skin in Origins.

Re: Ray-people conflict

Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 4:15 pm
by THEdragon
spiraldoor wrote:Pretending that Tarayzan and the Musician never existed is rather silly, considering that Tarayzan was almost included as a skin in Origins.
But... Then.... Why was he cut out? :U

Re: Ray-people conflict

Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 4:25 pm
by spiraldoor
I don’t know, and more importantly, neither do you. Does the developers’ decision not to include him in Origins signify a deliberate retroactive removal of Tarayzan from the original game? No, it doesn’t. By your logic, Clark the Giant never existed, because they ended up not putting him in Rayman 3.

Re: Ray-people conflict

Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 4:34 pm
by THEdragon
spiraldoor wrote:I don’t know, and more importantly, neither do you. Does the developers’ decision not to include him in Origins signify a deliberate retroactive removal of Tarayzan from the original game? No, it doesn’t.
Well, no, but if Rayman is supposedly the only one of his kind then were do those characters fit in? My mind is bebogglefied. :fou2:

Re: Ray-people conflict

Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 4:40 pm
by spiraldoor
They fit in the same way that the stone men and the Electoons fit, more or less.

The Bubble Dreamer states that Tarayzan is Rayman’s cousin, but that Rayman is the nymphs’ ‘best recipe yet’. Join the dots.

Re: Ray-people conflict

Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 4:42 pm
by THEdragon
spiraldoor wrote:They fit in the same way that the stone men and the Electoons fit, more or less.

The Bubble Dreamer states that Tarayzan is Rayman’s cousin, but that Rayman is the nymphs’ ‘best recipe yet’. Join the dots.
Well yes, but....

Wait, so Rayman ISN'T the only one of his kind, supposedly.

D__D Well okay, I sort of understand now.... XD

Re: Ray-people conflict

Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 4:46 pm
by spiraldoor
I still get the impression that Rayman is special in some way, even among his own species.