Antagonists: Mr. Dark vs Razorbeard vs Reflux vs Magician

[maxxyboy1000]

Hey Guys. I just thought I make a topic about who would win in a fight between the main antagonists of the Rayman Series.

1. Mr. Dark
2. Razorbeard (Grolgoth or not? You can decide)
3. Reflux & André (The Sceptre of the Leptys? You can decide)
4. Magician (As Mr. Dark's Substitute?)

You can include a detailed description of the fight if you want.
Also, feel free to include your favourite boss out of the 6 as well

[Adsolution]

I swear this was already a topic. Anyway:

Mister Dark. He seems to be the only truly intelligent villain so far.

Razorbeard is a total badass, but has proven to be irrational (having a fight on top of crummy chainlink, eating a yellow lum, etc). Reflux is shown to be stupid all around and far too ambitious. André is smart but totally powerless, and Big Mama is a giant huck of thing that does nothing.

Mister Dark however knew exactly what he was doing from the start, or so it seems. He never took a step in the wrong direction and made sure he was always protected. And in the end, he managed to retreat instantly and silently, without so much as a scratch. Plus he was almost torturing Rayman in the final stage and the fight.

With all that, Mister Dark is the clear winner. He almost shames all the other villains.

[Spanex]

I judge my bosses by the length, difficulty and enjoyment of the fight, and I found Reflux' second fight to be very enjoyable. Razorbeard comes in next. Big Mama third. Mr Dark is actually unfairly placed as fourth but only because I've never actually battled him and I can't judge his battle. I've seen videos though, and it only seems a bit retentive to me, sorry.

André? It was quite funny seeing him cower after defeating Reflux in the end. Too bad he didn't at least put up a fight.

Of course, story wise, Razorbeard would be my number 1, with actually André coming in next (as much as him not being an actual boss, he's still the villain and mastermind behind the plot, and he can be pretty damn evil!) Reflux, André's partner or henchman, comes next, Mr Dark is fourth again because I can't judge him, and Big Mama has no story to back her up at all, so story wise, she's last.

Actually, why isn't the Magician in here?

[maxxyboy1000]

Actually, why isn't the Magician in here?

Well, I didn't really think the Magician was a 'main' boss. But hey, if you want him, I'll add him :

[Rulez]

Why are all of you including Razorbeard in your posts when clearly the topic name and the first post suggest to talk about Razordbeard?

[Mammothphant 2]

Can you add the Emperor in the list maxxyboy1000? Just asking.

[Adsolution]

Can you add the Emperor in the list maxxyboy1000? Just asking.

Yes, and while we're at it, lets add DRM to that list as well.

[Mammothphant 2]

Can you add the Emperor in the list maxxyboy1000? Just asking.

Yes, and while we're at it, lets add DRM to that list as well.

Whats that supposed to mean? What DRM has to do with this topic?

[Adsolution]

Can you add the Emperor in the list maxxyboy1000? Just asking.

Yes, and while we're at it, lets add DRM to that list as well.

Whats that supposed to mean? What DRM has to do with this topic?

As far as I'm concerned, the Emperor can be considered about as much of a villain as DRM, and in this context, that's not very important.

I thought this would be, for once, a thread that didn't hold all these unnecessary options. Big Mama is honestly an utterly pointless addition here, and I think Reflux and André should be put together. Just Mister Dark vs Razorbeard vs Reflux/André. That's my opinion though, and expanding upon it, allowing all these other pointless characters that obviously don't stand a chance against the original big three is just members wanting their ideas in the OP.

If anything though from another games besides 1/2/3, the Magician would be the one to choose, which I support.

Actually, having Big Mama up there is as pointless as having the Mockingbirds up there. They're just guardian things holding the nymphs. Big Mama wasn't in any way the antagonist of Origins.

[Master]

I'm confused, are we comparing actual boss fights or the characters behind them?

[Acarr]

I want to see all these characters fight each other.

[Reiska]

Funny how apparently André and Razorbeard have the same voice actor.

[maxxyboy1000]

I'm confused, are we comparing actual boss fights or the characters behind them?

I was leaning more towards the actual characters, and what it would be like if they were to all to have one epic battle.

Big Mama is honestly an utterly pointless addition here, and I think Reflux and André should be put together. Just Mister Dark vs Razorbeard vs Reflux/André. That's my opinion though.
If anything though from another games besides 1/2/3, the Magician would be the one to choose, which I support.
Actually, having Big Mama up there is as pointless as having the Mockingbirds up there. They're just guardian things holding the nymphs. Big Mama wasn't in any way the antagonist of Origins.

Great Idea! I'll do that now.
I agree, Big Mama was pointless, I just wanted to try and include the main bosses. I guess I should really change it to 'Antagonists' instead of 'bosses'.

EDIT: Ok, all changed

[Haruka]

I believe in the end Mr. Dark would win.

He isn't not only a dark wizard, as he seems to be intelligent, like Rayfan pointed.

Reflux wouldn't win since he's too ambicious and you could all see that was the root of his failure against Rayman in the Tower of the Leptys.

The Magician is just a fanboy, he doesn't do anything.

Razorbeard is also a great villain, but the Grolgoth couldn't match a lot against magic.

I think many things already got said before me.

Razorbeard is still my favourite boss character, Mr. Dark comes in second.

[Master]

Judging by Character, I'd say Mr. Dark would win, he has the brains and the magical brawn to outmatch both Reflux, who probably lacks in the brains department, and Razorbeard, who lacks the brawn individually, and would probably remain beaten in the Grolgoth due to the Magical prowess of Mr. Dark.
So, if Mr. Dark wins, who takes 2nd place? Razorbeard? or Reflux?

[Mammothphant 2]

In my opinion the Emperor would win. He holds the power of bitterness.

But if counting only Mr. Dark, Razorbeard and Reflux, im not sure. Mr. Dark is mysterious and uses dark magic, Razorbeard is very cruel and strong when using Grolgoth, Reflux is big and strong but with the power of the Leptys sceptre he is much bigger and tougher. Difficult to say.

The baddies in Rayman series are like elements

Mr. Dark: Dark magic
Razorbeard: Mecha
Reflux: Strenght
Andre: Twisted
Emperor: Bitterness
Magician: Betrayal

[spiraldoor]

In my opinion the Emperor would win. He holds the power of bitterness.

[Adsolution]

In my opinion the Emperor would win. He holds the power of bitterness.

[Mammothphant 2]

What did i say wrong?

[Adsolution]

What did i say wrong?

Bitterness is neither a superpower, nor does it imply antagonism. In fact, the Emperor does nothing except toss you in a cell. For all you know, he's a robot, or maybe he's a kind-hearted fool that doesn't realise what he's doing wrong.