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:::With the influx of renamed 'Dark' things, such as Darktoons, previously called Antitoons, I think the Darkroot might be a rename of the nettle. It's either that or they are two different species. --[[User:Iheckler9|iHeckler9]][[File:Life.gif|link=User:Iheckler9]] 16:25, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

:::I'm not sure if we should relate nettles with Darkroots. They have several phisical differences like the eyes and colour, and their behaviours are completely different in-game: the nettles move constantly like the tentacles of an octopus, and dissappear for a while when rayman attacks them, while the Darkroots can't be defeated and grow until they find a place to stay. Also, Darkroots seem to have a major role in Rayman Origins (they appear during the opening sequence). However, mentioning the "nettles" article is not a bad idea ^^ --[[User:Sergiomonty|Sergiomonty]] 17:31, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

I was about to suggest that we merge the articles as I could not see any difference between 'nettles' and darkroots but I guess Sergio has a point when it comes to their different behaviour. Though that's really the only difference, and we might still want to merge them. What do you guys think? —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png|link=User:Hunchman801]] 16:22, 26 March 2014 (CET)

::::I was about to suggest that we merge the articles as I could not see any difference between 'nettles' and darkroots but I guess Sergio has a point when it comes to their different behaviour. Though that's really the only difference, and we might still want to merge them. What do you guys think? —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png|link=User:Hunchman801]] 16:22, 26 March 2014 (CET)

After [[Talk:Spiky ball|our talk about the spiky balls]] some days ago, I wanted to get back on that one. Don't you think the nettles and the roots could be the same plants? There are a lot of similarities between then:

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:- Some move, some don't (cf. the nettle patches in the Menhir Hills)

:- Rayman can't destroy them (with his fists or his magic fist) -- [[User:Boomboleros7|Boomboleros7]] 02:26, 1 September 2014 (CEST)

::Darkroots retreat on their own, and nettles can't do that. The darkroots also have eyes. They're different species and deserve different pages. --[[User:Iheckler9|iHeckler9]][[File:Life.gif|link=User:Iheckler9]] 14:28, 1 September 2014 (CEST)

:::I think 'nettle' only refers to the moving ones that retract when hit, which makes Sergio's point rather valid though. Any other opinions? —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png|link=User:Hunchman801]] 15:28, 1 September 2014 (CEST)

:After a discussion with Hunch, we decide to create an article dedicated to the spiky plants of the ''Rayman'' games on the French wiki.

:To do this, we fuse the "Nettle" and "Darkroot" articles. We also create a new article for the skeletal and metallic nettles of RM, called "Tentacle (Rayman M)" (as they aren't plants, but things with the same pattern as the Nettles).

:In French, the R2 plants have been identified as "(giant) brambles" and "(giant) roots" by the official strategy guide. The R3 ones are incorrectly called "nettles" in-game, but called "roots" in the official guide. The RO/RL ones are called "roots" in the title of some RJR levels.

:The French article has been called "Giant bramble", by using the RayWiki's policy (this is the most used term in the R2 guide from 2000).

:The same changes could be applied on the English wiki, but then, we should change the title of the spiky plants article, because we can't keep the incorrect "nettle" term.

:By using the RayWiki's policy, it could be called "Thorn vines", a term used in the Prima's official strategy guide from 2000.

:By doing so, the first line of the article will be: "'''Thorn vines''', also known as '''nettles''', '''roots''', '''darkroots''' and '''spiky roots'''".--[[User:Boomboleros7|Boomboleros7]] 17:23, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

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 :::With the influx of renamed 'Dark' things, such as Darktoons, previously called Antitoons, I think the Darkroot might be a rename of the nettle. It's either that or they are two different species. --[[User:Iheckler9|iHeckler9]][[File:Life.gif|link=User:Iheckler9]] 16:25, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
 :::I'm not sure if we should relate nettles with Darkroots. They have several phisical differences like the eyes and colour, and their behaviours are completely different in-game: the nettles move constantly like the tentacles of an octopus, and dissappear for a while when rayman attacks them, while the Darkroots can't be defeated and grow until they find a place to stay. Also, Darkroots seem to have a major role in Rayman Origins (they appear during the opening sequence). However, mentioning the "nettles" article is not a bad idea ^^ --[[User:Sergiomonty|Sergiomonty]] 17:31, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
-I was about to suggest that we merge the articles as I could not see any difference between 'nettles' and darkroots but I guess Sergio has a point when it comes to their different behaviour. Though that's really the only difference, and we might still want to merge them. What do you guys think?  —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png|link=User:Hunchman801]] 16:22, 26 March 2014 (CET)
+::::I was about to suggest that we merge the articles as I could not see any difference between 'nettles' and darkroots but I guess Sergio has a point when it comes to their different behaviour. Though that's really the only difference, and we might still want to merge them. What do you guys think?  —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png|link=User:Hunchman801]] 16:22, 26 March 2014 (CET)
 After [[Talk:Spiky ball|our talk about the spiky balls]] some days ago, I wanted to get back on that one. Don't you think the nettles and the roots could be the same plants? There are a lot of similarities between then:
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 :- Some move, some don't (cf. the nettle patches in the Menhir Hills)
 :- Rayman can't destroy them (with his fists or his magic fist) -- [[User:Boomboleros7|Boomboleros7]] 02:26, 1 September 2014 (CEST)
+::Darkroots retreat on their own, and nettles can't do that. The darkroots also have eyes. They're different species and deserve different pages. --[[User:Iheckler9|iHeckler9]][[File:Life.gif|link=User:Iheckler9]] 14:28, 1 September 2014 (CEST)
+:::I think 'nettle' only refers to the moving ones that retract when hit, which makes Sergio's point rather valid though. Any other opinions? —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png|link=User:Hunchman801]] 15:28, 1 September 2014 (CEST)
+:After a discussion with Hunch, we decide to create an article dedicated to the spiky plants of the ''Rayman'' games on the French wiki.
+:To do this, we fuse the "Nettle" and "Darkroot" articles. We also create a new article for the skeletal and metallic nettles of RM, called "Tentacle (Rayman M)" (as they aren't plants, but things with the same pattern as the Nettles).
+:In French, the R2 plants have been identified as "(giant) brambles" and "(giant) roots" by the official strategy guide. The R3 ones are incorrectly called "nettles" in-game, but called "roots" in the official guide. The RO/RL ones are called "roots" in the title of some RJR levels.
+:The French article has been called "Giant bramble", by using the RayWiki's policy (this is the most used term in the R2 guide from 2000).
+:The same changes could be applied on the English wiki, but then, we should change the title of the spiky plants article, because we can't keep the incorrect "nettle" term.
+:By using the RayWiki's policy, it could be called "Thorn vines", a term used in the Prima's official strategy guide from 2000.
+:By doing so, the first line of the article will be: "'''Thorn vines''', also known as '''nettles''', '''roots''', '''darkroots''' and '''spiky roots'''".--[[User:Boomboleros7|Boomboleros7]] 17:23, 31 July 2016 (UTC)