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Keane wrote:TL;DR my mental health is ruined.
No it isn't you are young and you have all the life in front of you.
MY mental health is ruined, I'm broken.
You are soon gonna be better, it is a matter of time, my hint for you is make some sport and get a GF, I think you will feel a lot better, the problem is in your head, it is a lack of trust of yourself, people aren't gonna try to eat you dude.
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Keane wrote:I don't know where to go but I'm scared that if a solution doesn't come quick I'm gonna get depressed
Would it be hazardous to ask yourself if you're not already depressed?

I can't make any good judgment. But if you're still in school, you might be lucky enough to have at your disposition an office for depression or social trouble that could help you. I know it can be hard to get to a psychiatric, but it shouldn't be a shame. Professionals know those situations, and remain in most case the best help you can get.
Even though it's not guaranteed, of course. But in any case, it's better for you to be open about those issues if they really bother you. Talking helps. And in that idea, relative ones should be addressed. Even if some can give pretty bad advice (“Just stop worrying!”, “Go meet other people, it's easy, I can do it then so do you!”, “Just think of yourself as a good person.”…), it's important to keep the connections you have, and not be completely alone.

If I could give a suggestion, that should be taken as what it is, an advice from someone who never suffered from severe depression, it would be to get involved in personal projects. I practically never go outside with friends, join parties, meet new people, thus most of my evenings and week-end are spent enjoying/suffering my own company. So to compensate, I work on projects that I like. Learning to create video-games, making montage, writing, maybe music or drawing… Getting motivated enough is hard, and it can sometimes feel useless and complete crap. But it keeps my mind busy for a while, and in the end, I'm glad I've created something, and learned a lot.
That's the only good point I can find of isolation: it offers time.
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Keane wrote: I don't know where to go but I'm scared that if a solution doesn't come quick I'm gonna get depressed and try to drop out of school and then shits just gonna do even more downhill from there. I just, I don't know, I don't know what to do.
A solution won't come to you, you need to generate that solution yourself. The way you talk in your posts suggests some mysterious and anonymous third party is involved and is preventing you from being your true self and achieving your goals, while it's actually down to you and your (almost certainly) misplaced opinions about yourself and lack of confidence. And even if the negative opinions of yourself are founded (which, again, I highly doubt), you are in control to change yourself. That's what's great about being an adult.

A while ago I suggested joining a gym, and it's come up again recently. Have you done so yet? I promise you it will improve your confidence, and even if you're too shy to join a gym, buy some weights and start exercising at home. Also, try doing things that promote independence. Go into your local town on your own and enjoy a Starbucks. If you're old enough and can afford it, start learning to drive.

Please don't take this post as a criticism, it really ain't that and I respect you hugely for being so honest. It's just, it sounds like you need a kick up the ass in the right direction, because it seems as though you're making excuses for your behaviour by subsuming yourself under the 'social anxiety' guise. You're a great guy because you're likeable here, so I'm certain you have the ability to be great irl. You just need to dig for that yourself and not wait for change to come to you.
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Here is an hint :

When you are sad stop and instead be awesome, true story. :)

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Keane wrote:I was getting a bit antsy to be back in a social place, but, I've hit rock bottom. I really try my best to keep things lively and social but I don't see any reason for it anymore. My anxiety and self-hatred is completely blocking me from enjoying anything, and I just spend entire weeks feeling exhausted, pissed and scared about the whole situation.

I've more or less been on my own for two years now, I have no one to ask for insight anymore and I've been constantly let down. I felt nauseous all day today, and then had a slight anxiety attack later on, and now I'm just stuck with this half angry, half terrified feeling. It's like I'm constantly chasing down this moment to breath and I can never reach it.

TL;DR my mental health is ruined. I can't even put into words how completely fucked my thinking throughout the day is and how much self-hatred I actually get from the slightest things. I don't know where to go but I'm scared that if a solution doesn't come quick I'm gonna get depressed and try to drop out of school and then shits just gonna do even more downhill from there. I just, I don't know, I don't know what to do.
It might be worth it go to see a counsellor. You could probably find a counselling service for free, especially since you're a student. It can't hurt to try it. If it helps, it helps. If it doesn't at least you tried.
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i'll try to keep these fairly to the point
Itooh wrote:Would it be hazardous to ask yourself if you're not already depressed?
Nah, it doesn't really match up, and I don't want to self-diagnose it either. My shitty feels usually come in long periods, often triggered by something like entering a new year or starting to feel isolated. It probably lasts like, dunno, 3 weeks-3 months.
Itooh wrote:Even though it's not guaranteed, of course. But in any case, it's better for you to be open about those issues if they really bother you. Talking helps. And in that idea, relative ones should be addressed. Even if some can give pretty bad advice (“Just stop worrying!”, “Go meet other people, it's easy, I can do it then so do you!”, “Just think of yourself as a good person.”…), it's important to keep the connections you have, and not be completely alone.
I'm perfectly comfortable keeping my family ignorant to this whole thing. I outed it two years back, and while my parents are supportive people, their response to this kinda stuff is extremely dismissive and frustrating. When something is affecting me on such a daily basis and it gets reduced to a "but you're a teen and you don't really have serious issues" I'd rather not bring it up.
Itooh wrote:If I could give a suggestion, that should be taken as what it is, an advice from someone who never suffered from severe depression, it would be to get involved in personal projects. I practically never go outside with friends, join parties, meet new people, thus most of my evenings and week-end are spent enjoying/suffering my own company. So to compensate, I work on projects that I like. Learning to create video-games, making montage, writing, maybe music or drawing… Getting motivated enough is hard, and it can sometimes feel useless and complete crap. But it keeps my mind busy for a while, and in the end, I'm glad I've created something, and learned a lot.
That's the only good point I can find of isolation: it offers time.
Yeah I try, I honestly gotta admit it all feels like a task though. My guitar lessons are expensive af and I treat it like school basically, mostly because it's literally one-on-one interaction with my teacher and well, you can probably imagine how that goes down in my book. I do it to feel like I am actually attempting something, rather than just obeying what anxiety would prefer me to do.
Acarr wrote: It might be worth it go to see a counsellor. You could probably find a counselling service for free, especially since you're a student. It can't hurt to try it. If it helps, it helps. If it doesn't at least you tried.
Big let down, honestly. First counselor I tried didn't take me serious and his approach was soaked in "I'm mostly here because I get a lot of vacations". Once I brought up my concerns about this he immediately shipped me off to another counselor, quality service. The second one was a lot kinder though, and I kinda enjoyed our meetings. The only problem was that she couldn't offer much that I didn't already know, and things just went nowhere.

As for right now, long story short, I can't access a new counselor in any near future.
Xenon wrote:A solution won't come to you, you need to generate that solution yourself. The way you talk in your posts suggests some mysterious and anonymous third party is involved and is preventing you from being your true self and achieving your goals, while it's actually down to you and your (almost certainly) misplaced opinions about yourself and lack of confidence. And even if the negative opinions of yourself are founded (which, again, I highly doubt), you are in control to change yourself. That's what's great about being an adult.
Well I mean, I'm pretty aware of how to approach and deal with things, it's just a matter of how to execute it. I know how to fix this shit, and I have all the opportunities to do it, I just have no sense of how or when to act upon it. When I say I'm socially inept, I mean like, really actually unable to do a simple conversation. Nothing can go wrong, I have to be prepared for anything they might say, and even though I know it's bullshit to think like that, I can't stop it.

When I talk about a solution, I really only see professional help as the answer. I'm fairly confident self-esteem will come as things go, but like I said in the LGBT thread, even if there's no anxiety involved I still can't do shit. A lot of advice often revolves around "go to new places with new people" but the real problem is that when I do I'm still the quiet weird kid because I'll say hi and that's about it for me. From counselors to parents, they all overlook this, and the actual social anxiety itself becomes swept under the rug while we discuss the symptoms of it.

I know I'm not half the things I accuse myself of, but there's just nothing to like either. I know it sounds corny, but outside of RPC I can confidently say no one sees half of what you guys do, and when you do want to out it but you just don't know how, it's the most trapped feeling.
Xenon wrote:A while ago I suggested joining a gym, and it's come up again recently. Have you done so yet? I promise you it will improve your confidence, and even if you're too shy to join a gym, buy some weights and start exercising at home. Also, try doing things that promote independence. Go into your local town on your own and enjoy a Starbucks. If you're old enough and can afford it, start learning to drive.
Yeah, I exercise at home.
As for driving, kinda screwed there. My brother and I have zero have car access.
Xenon wrote:Please don't take this post as a criticism, it really ain't that and I respect you hugely for being so honest. It's just, it sounds like you need a kick up the ass in the right direction, because it seems as though you're making excuses for your behaviour by subsuming yourself under the 'social anxiety' guise. You're a great guy because you're likeable here, so I'm certain you have the ability to be great irl. You just need to dig for that yourself and not wait for change to come to you.
Oh no, it's fine dude, I hugely appreciate people taking time to read and respond to it. I don't people holding a pity party for me. :roll:
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ok i'm gonna have to be That Guy here: inco, you're not helping. i know you mean well, hon, but you're really not. this kind of thing is probably the opposite of want k needs/wants to hear.

congrats on your crush though. :> it's a natural part of your development, to a certain extent, and you shouldn't be scared of it!

that aside: sorry to hear you're feeling low again, k. o ^ o i totally understand where you're coming from because i kind of feel like that as well, sometimes. it's usually worse during the holidays but i digress

are you in school or college or something? it's always good to have something to occupy your time and a reason to leave your room etc. and if you have any particular hobbies you could always look around and join some websites for those or something! make some more friends? o: i'm not really sure what else to suggest but that's usually what helps me so

i mean if you do want someone to talk to i can pm you my skype and if you just needed to offload or whatever we could talk. o:
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MLII wrote:Congrats on your crush though. :> it's a natural part of your development, to a certain extent, and you shouldn't be scared of it!
Except I was rejected like scrap metal. :P
But she is still haunting my thoughts, and even my dreams.

But here I'm kinda lost, are you talking to Keane or to me ? :oops2:
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o! no for the latter part i was talking to keane o: sorry!
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Okay. :mrgreen:

Anyway, I'm still wondering why I'm always thinking about her, what I felt was, sudden, and extremely intense.
Nah, maybe I'm just crazy, I have to forget that.
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Keane wrote:
Itooh wrote:Would it be hazardous to ask yourself if you're not already depressed?
Nah, it doesn't really match up, and I don't want to self-diagnose it either. My shitty feels usually come in long periods, often triggered by something like entering a new year or starting to feel isolated. It probably lasts like, dunno, 3 weeks-3 months.

Acarr wrote: It might be worth it go to see a counsellor. You could probably find a counselling service for free, especially since you're a student. It can't hurt to try it. If it helps, it helps. If it doesn't at least you tried.
Big let down, honestly. First counselor I tried didn't take me serious and his approach was soaked in "I'm mostly here because I get a lot of vacations". Once I brought up my concerns about this he immediately shipped me off to another counselor, quality service. The second one was a lot kinder though, and I kinda enjoyed our meetings. The only problem was that she couldn't offer much that I didn't already know, and things just went nowhere.

As for right now, long story short, I can't access a new counselor in any near future.
If counselling's not working then I can only suggest here is to go see your GP. They will diagnose you and give you further help. Different things help different people.
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MLII wrote:o! no for the latter part i was talking to keane o: sorry!
wait but

i dont have a crush though
Acarr wrote:If counselling's not working then I can only suggest here is to go see your GP. They will diagnose you and give you further help. Different things help different people.
Hmm, I might actually look into that. :o
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the latter part

so after i was talking to incognito i was talking to you. o:
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But, I'm not feeling low...
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I was hoping I'd move past my fear of my mortality, but apparently that hasn't happened yet. I suddenly found myself once again becoming fully aware of my inevitable death and brought myself to weep. I hate when my brain goes to such a depressing place, and it's something I haven't gotten full control over yet. I want to be able accept my mortality, but I haven't been able to yet. It still scares me so deeply because I value my life and consciousness too much. I don't know how else to feel about my own death other than deep fear. I can't get to sleep now because of this sudden anxiety. Just... God damn it. I know I probably sound like a broken record now since this is probably the second or third time I've brought this up. I know I should be over it, but I'm not and it's driving me to tears.
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Earth Gwee wrote:I was hoping I'd move past my fear of my mortality, but apparently that hasn't happened yet. I suddenly found myself once again becoming fully aware of my inevitable death and brought myself to weep. I hate when my brain goes to such a depressing place, and it's something I haven't gotten full control over yet. I want to be able accept my mortality, but I haven't been able to yet. It still scares me so deeply because I value my life and consciousness too much. I don't know how else to feel about my own death other than deep fear. I can't get to sleep now because of this sudden anxiety. Just... God damn it. I know I probably sound like a broken record now since this is probably the second or third time I've brought this up. I know I should be over it, but I'm not and it's driving me to tears.
I'm not afraid of mortality, actually I'm kinda impatient do die.
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Earth Gwee wrote:I was hoping I'd move past my fear of my mortality, but apparently that hasn't happened yet. I suddenly found myself once again becoming fully aware of my inevitable death and brought myself to weep. I hate when my brain goes to such a depressing place, and it's something I haven't gotten full control over yet. I want to be able accept my mortality, but I haven't been able to yet. It still scares me so deeply because I value my life and consciousness too much. I don't know how else to feel about my own death other than deep fear. I can't get to sleep now because of this sudden anxiety. Just... God damn it. I know I probably sound like a broken record now since this is probably the second or third time I've brought this up. I know I should be over it, but I'm not and it's driving me to tears.
All things must come to an end. This is called the way of nature. There is no point in thinking about death it's inevitable. I mean that in a very broad sense as well. Even if you could stop aging and live to the year 10^100 what would you be doing in that time?
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incognito wrote:I'm not afraid of mortality, actually I'm kinda impatient do die.
:|
I'm concerned...
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Ambidextroid wrote:
incognito wrote:I'm not afraid of mortality, actually I'm kinda impatient do die.
:|
I'm concerned...
I'm not. Incognito is just being edgy again (have no idea if he's being serious) and it certainly isn't helping out Gwee's situation.

I too have fear of mortality. Not as much as Gwee, but it certainly does get to the point where I do stay awake at night questioning my existence.
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For the past couple of years I've had issues when it comes to my families mortality. Like, I keep thinking about the day when both my parents will be gone, and it makes me feel really depressed.
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