Rayman & Rayman 2 The Great Escape against the others

[DandyGuy]

Way to go !
So do I.

I agree with you on RRR.

[The Amazing Rayman]

Actual quote from a Ubisoft article
"Rayman Legends isn’t exactly known for having a deep storyline or a strong narrative presence, because that’s not the point; Rayman has always been about the gameplay."
From this article: http://blog.ubi.com/on-the-level-creati ... r-the-sea/

[need my speed]

This is hilarious. Every post is a new account.

Simply I don't want to have a stable account, here and nowhere.

Oh really? So you change your email address and phone number every week too?

[PluMGMK]

This is hilarious. Every post is a new account.

Simply I don't want to have a stable account, here and nowhere.

Translated into plain English:

I have no interest in being a part of this community.

Then kindly stop posting here.

[incognito]

PluM, you just basically resumed all the previous pages in one sentence.

[PluMGMK]

My English teacher did always say I had a knack for concision.

Well, now that I'm here, I might as well continue to rain on people's parades: the zaniness of Origins and Legends is much closer to Ancel's original vision than anything before. And the only reason Rayman 2 was so dark was because Tonic Trouble was silly, so they didn't want two games that seemed identical. Source: L'Histoire de Rayman

[Greeness]

Also here's one of the best tones in the Rayman franchise:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pjY3Wjwkgc
and what do you know, It's from Rayman 3, you know the one you said has unbearable soundtrack.

[blast1]

Actual quote from a Ubisoft article
"Rayman Legends isn’t exactly known for having a deep storyline or a strong narrative presence, because that’s not the point; Rayman has always been about the gameplay."
From this article: http://blog.ubi.com/on-the-level-creati ... r-the-sea/

Those are just words. The facts are these:
Rayman longplay (PS version): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvhb5OUzdD4
Rayman 2 The Great Escape longplay (N64 and PS versions respectively): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpTPIXUOMzM - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7QM7tet2Vs

Oh really? So you change your email address and phone number every week too?

I refer only to accounts. I thought it was obvious but I was wrong.

I have no interest in being a part of this community.
Then kindly stop posting here.

I've clearly written "here and nowhere". You can read?!

And in any case I decide when stop posting since I'm the only one who opposes to the craps that you say.

My English teacher did always say I had a knack for concision.

Well, now that I'm here, I might as well continue to rain on people's parades: the zaniness of Origins and Legends is much closer to Ancel's original vision than anything before. And the only reason Rayman 2 was so dark was because Tonic Trouble was silly, so they didn't want two games that seemed identical. Source: L'Histoire de Rayman

Honestly your teacher doesn't seem very bright and many of the information contained in that book from my point of view doesn't hold up.

Rayman 2 was so dark because especially in the late '90s there was a particular tendency to propose darker themes. The period from 1996 to 2000 has been a particular and gorgeous period, furrowed between "lights and shadows", and I speak as someone who has lived it. Rayman 2 has represented very well the atmosphere that you breathe at the time.

Proof what I say just look at the original concept of the 2D game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QmbIFNv4HE to understand that the authors even before Tonic Trouble were making a gloomy game. I also add that Tonic Trouble serves only to test the graphics engine of Rayman 2. He didn't even being published originally.

And just to remember you, also the first Rayman was pretty grim in many of its settings and sounds. It's also right in the first Rayman we see Mr Dark, Anguish Lagoon, Twilight Gulch and The Marshes Of Oblivion. These names are just randomly in fact... I'm obviously ironic!

The thing that makes me smile is that you believe to the s**t of that book say. How definitely for you the true story of Rayman are the bulls**t written in Rayman Origins manual. But please!

Also here's one of the best tones in the Rayman franchise:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pjY3Wjwkgc
and what do you know, It's from Rayman 3, you know the one you said has unbearable soundtrack.

These are soundtracks:

RAYMAN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EdUSyy ... B&index=15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clxIm76vOXs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UslaaOK ... KLpj8#t=12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=809H0q7 ... 85A864CA9B
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNPFRUB ... 85A864CA9B


RAYMAN 2 THE GREAT ESCAPE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITaAM_juHqc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kB9lnxY ... qc&index=8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hb1PujDDNc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6TUtX5akXY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPjGfW1FZec

Not that weak and insignificant soundtrack of Rayman 3. In Rayman 3 the "Hoodoo Theme" is the best that you can hope and propose with at least "Calm Of The Ocean" tone.

[PluMGMK]

I have no interest in being a part of this community.
Then kindly stop posting here.

I've clearly written "here and nowhere". You can read?!

And in any case I decide when stop posting since I'm the only one who opposes to the craps that you say.

Oh, my apologies. Then:

I have no interest in being a part of this community, or any other.

Then kindly don't post here, or on any other online community.

[blast1]

I have no interest in being a part of this community.
Then kindly stop posting here.

I've clearly written "here and nowhere". You can read?!

And in any case I decide when stop posting since I'm the only one who opposes to the craps that you say.

Oh, my apologies. Then:

I have no interest in being a part of this community, or any other.

Then kindly don't post here, or on any other online community.

On the contrary, I had nothing to correct:

I decide when stop posting since I'm the only one who opposes to the craps that you say.

The truth bothers!

[incognito]

I decide when stop posting since I'm the only one who opposes to the craps that you say.

[/quote]
So, don't correct me if I'm wrong, you say you don't wanna be a part of this community, you say any thought that ain't yours is crap, you say that anyone not sharing your way to think is a moron.
Okay.
Kindly fuck off.

[blast1]

So, don't correct me if I'm wrong, you say you don't wanna be a part of this community, you say any thought that ain't yours is crap, you say that anyone not sharing your way to think is a moron.
Okay.
Kindly fuck off.

You can read the title of this page?! What do you hope to find here beyond this?!
So please, fuck you too.

[Bradandez]

Again, reopening this topic was a bad idea.

[Hunchman801]

Right, after some discussion, we're going to give this thread another chance. However, any further spam will be subject to deduction of 200 tings per post. Remain on-topic and keep things civil.

It looks like Master's warning was not heeded, so I have deducted 200 Tings per off-topic/spam post.

• Sabertooth: 400
• CHRdutch: 600
• Maz: 200
• OP: 1200
• Bradandez: 600
• incognito: 1200
• DandyGuy: 400
• Lysol: 200
• need my speed: 400
• The Amazing Rayman: 200
• PluMGMK: 400

Next time, I'll be issuing bans.

Simply I don't want to have a stable account, here and nowhere.

Well look, we have a certain tolerance regarding multiple accounts, but this is just getting out of hand. Any new accounts from you will be banned straight away, so stick to the current ones or stop posting here. I'll probably merge them anyway.

RE4 introduced a midget Napoleon. It was never expected to be taken seriously.

The Hell does Salazar have to do with Napoleon?

Talking about Resident Evil 4. If you consider also Resident Evil has suffered of the 21st century decline as Rayman, and not only.
You think about how it was concrete and terrifying in Resident Evil, Resident Evil 2, Resident Evil 3 and Resident Evil Survivor. From Resident Evil Code Veronica it has started to become trivial and also start to proposing remake of remake (as it happened to Rayman series because out of original ideas) for GameCube and at last ruined from Resident Evil 4 (just as it happened to Rayman from Rayman M/Rayman 3 Hoodlum Havoc/Rayman Raving Rabbids onwards) where the plot is disorganized and improbable, the creatures start to become more improbable and trivial than the plot and the game loses its true horror essence.
The same fate has befallen to the House Of The Dead, where the third title (also released in the same period of Rayman 3 Hoodlum Havoc) was really devoid of the previous thickness, in short "all graphics and shootings, zero thickness", and few sales too, not by chance.

I get your point here. Sure, the atmosphere is completely different from Resident Evil 4 onwards, and I miss the old one just as much as you do. But I also love RE4, because it's one of the best action games all of times, if not the best. Sure, it has its flaws, such as a few improbable scenes and creatures there and there (the final boss being the only one I really mind), but globally, it's a masterpiece. The points you've raised, however, become more prominent from Resident Evil 5 onwards, and while I can't said that the 5 and 6 are bad games, they have certainly disappointed me. Have you watched the trailers for RE7 by the way?

[Adsolution]

Resident Evil 4 is my favourite in the series. The gameplay, graphics, atmosphere and music are all impeccable, and to top it off, I've rarely seen QTEs so perfectly implemented.

Have you watched the trailers for RE7 by the way?

In some way, I felt a tinge of disappointment. Not because of the way it looked, but because it made me remember that we're never going to get Silent Hills, and that it's likely RE7 will not match what PT presented us with. On the other hand, I love that they're trying to do this, because for all I know it could be outstanding. If there's anything to take inspiration from, it's PT.

You think about how it was concrete and terrifying in Resident Evil [1]

You think the first game is more "concrete and terrifying" than RE4? I replayed RE1 recently and I thought it kind of sucked in almost every way. 2 and 3 are significantly better, especially in terms of atmosphere.

[Hunchman801]

Have you watched the trailers for RE7 by the way?

In some way, I felt a tinge of disappointment. Not because of the way it looked, but because it made me remember that we're never going to get Silent Hills, and that it's likely RE7 will not match what PT presented us with. On the other hand, I love that they're trying to do this, because for all I know it could be outstanding. If there's anything to take inspiration from, it's PT.

Let's be optimistic.

You think the first game is more "concrete and terrifying" than RE4? I replayed RE1 recently and I thought it kind of sucked in almost every way. 2 and 3 are significantly better, especially in terms of atmosphere.

I have to disagree here, there's not much that's scary about RE4, however good it is. The fact that RE1 entirely takes places in the same secluded location adds a lot to the atmosphere too, and they really took advantage of it. What did you not like about it? And what version did you play?

[Adsolution]

I have to disagree here, there's not much that's scary about RE4, however good it is.

I didn't mean to say it was a that scary of a game, but there were a number of moments that made my heart pound, and the entire presentation is pretty freaky/disturbing. Whether it's the scene where you're running away from the boulder, you're fighting El Gigante, you're slipping through the lasers, you're being pulled along by the fish, the knife fight, or doing just about anything, there's something about the way everything is shot and animated that makes it feel brutal and terrifying. I find that, despite its the game's obviously unrealistic nature, a lot of the impacts (especially the hundreds of different scripted ways in which you can die throughout the game) were so "fast" that they almost felt uncomfortably realistic.

The fact that RE1 entirely takes places in the same secluded location adds a lot to the atmosphere too, and they really took advantage of it. What did you not like about it? And what version did you play?

The first one I played was the GameCube version, though I was referring to the PS1 version - it's just goofy on so many levels. There is a certain charm to it, but my main point was that it came off so silly I found it more amusing than scary. The GameCube version though, it's excellent.

Also, to clarify, I didn't actually mean that RE1 "sucked in every way", I was specifically referring to the atmosphere. To me, it comes across like a mash of dunno, coupled with the worst voice acting I've ever heard.

Since we're talking about versions, lol:

[Hunchman801]

I didn't mean to say it was a that scary of a game, but there were a number of moments that made my heart pound, and the entire presentation is pretty freaky/disturbing. Whether it's the scene where you're running away from the boulder, you're fighting El Gigante, you're slipping through the lasers, you're being pulled along by the fish, the knife fight, or doing just about anything, there's something about the way everything is shot and animated that makes it feel brutal and terrifying. I find that, despite its the game's obviously unrealistic nature, a lot of the impacts (especially the hundreds of different scripted ways in which you can die throughout the game) were so "fast" that they almost felt uncomfortably realistic.

Disturbing is the word, and the atmosphere of the game is great indeed, starting from the very beginning (I still remember my first playthrough).

The first one I played was the GameCube version, though I was referring to the PS1 version - it's just goofy on so many levels. There is a certain charm to it, but my main point was that it came off so silly I found it more amusing than scary. The GameCube version though, it's excellent.

Also, to clarify, I didn't actually mean that RE1 "sucked in every way", I was specifically referring to the atmosphere. To me, it comes across like a mash of dunno, coupled with the worst voice acting I've ever heard.

Well this is why I asked you about the version. You're right about the original game, which looks and sounds very much like a B-movie, but like you said there's a certain charm to it. The whole storyline behind it, however, is pretty flawless and will allow for future games to base an awesome universe upon it. That's the case of the GameCube remake, which is nothing like a B-movie anymore, and takes you to an eerie, seemingly abandoned mansion full of monsters, genuinely scary and with a flawless atmosphere (and God it looked so good at the time).

Since we're talking about versions, lol:

Especially when compared with the soundtrack from the remake:

[Rayfist]

I'm sure Adsolution will gladly tell you the story where I witnessed a fucking Novistador tackling me from behind and and screamed like a little bitch while screensharing RE4.

[Hunchman801]

I'm sure Adsolution will gladly tell you the story where I witnessed a fucking Novistador tackling me from behind and and screamed like a little bitch while screensharing RE4.

Was it an invisible one or a flying one? Novistadores sure surprised me more than once.