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Thanks Guys! :D
1234 wrote: As for your HH-score, how did it actually come that you got 140 points less than the maximum I calculated, if I may ask?
I assume you didn't convert the Lum from the Hoodboom and you maybe accidently took a red gem from the first piggybank too early, did you?
I left one of the 3 Yellow Gems below the Cage for the end of the Combo (i.e. the classical approach where you hit the second Elite Monger once, then collect the Gem and kill the Hoodlum afterwards). Obviously, that left me with one less item in the beginning so I was unable to get 2 Red Gems for max value. Your version of the ending is cool, but I'm used to the classical way and old habits die hard, as they say. I was way too scared to mess up the end, so I decided to go down that route.

And yeah, I also left out the Black Lum from the Hoodboom; it's almost impossible to get a good angle for an SJ right away, so I needed to make sure I had some time to make adjustments and even then, the timeframe for connecting the Tribelle's area with the Hoodboom was pretty tight. I mean, you can decide yourself on how to play this part, but I found including the Black Lum from the Hoodboom to not be worth the immense increase in difficulty...
1234 wrote: What level do you intend to improve next? Looking at your scores, only TOTL appears to be quite improveable yet, and maybe also LS and SBTC a bit. However in the other levels it should be exceedingly difficult to do any better.
Nothing for the next 2 weeks as I'm occupied with studying :oops2:
I'm currently in LS3 with a predicted final Score of 43.050. Maybe I'll even play LS again afterwards to squeeze out some extra Points; after the hellish crap I had to go through in CF and HH, the Shoe-Combo is actually kind of relaxing. After that, maybe 122.619 in LOTLD because that level is easy with the exception of the final Combo. Then I will probably give DOTK or FC another go, and only THEN will I bother with TOTL. As long as I can't really trigger the IPG, I don't see the Point in trying, so might as well go for other stuff first.
1234 wrote: It won't be easy to beat it, but I think I'll still give it a shot after the exams. We'll see.
Good luck! :hehe:
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Hey guys. I just wanted to let you know that I'm currently working all day every day (fun times for auditors right now) which is the reason why I have basically disappeared from everywhere during the last 6 weeks. I have not forgotten any of the things I planned/promised before christmas and I'm still very passionate about all the goals I set myself to achieve, it's just not possible right now to put any significant effort into them. I'll go back to uni at the start of April but I should be getting some breaks from work already at the end of February, so I should be able to pick everything back up from then. I hope I haven't killed the momentum or something like that, and I hope you guys can keep up with the hype as long as I'm away (of course you can, you guys are all geniuses) :)
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Woah, Maz reached 900k? Congrats! :teuf:

As for my 812k, I haven't worked on it recently, but when I did I went back and forth between FC and CF. Not successful so far in getting that extra 3k to get back into the top 10.
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Thanks :) And hang in there; looking at your other Scores, I'm certain you will be able to find the missing 3k in these 2 levels once everything falls into place.

Edit: I somehow can't immediately change directions if I use the Camera-Trick. Therefore, I ended up with "only" 43.030 Points in LS instead of what should have been 43.240. Highly disappointing, but I guess I'll have to live with that...
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Maz wrote:I somehow can't immediately change directions if I use the Camera-Trick. Therefore, I ended up with "only" 43.030 Points in LS instead of what should have been 43.240. Highly disappointing, but I guess I'll have to live with that...
I doubt that this is the reason, but in order to make the snapshot trick work properly, you must have activated the look mode priorly; just as I did it e.g. at the beginning of the video of the Matuvu Combo in DOTK4.
Other than that, I have no idea why it doesn't work for you.
Well, at least that way I can keep the WR in this level for now... :mrgreen:


Btw., I've almost finished the R3 video list. Meanwhile it's over 20 pages long with a character count of nearly 40k. Luckily setting up some macros helped a lot to make the work not too tedious.
Anyway, unless someone has something to object, I'll post the entire list here. I'll just wait until we've reached 18 or 19 posts on this page, to spare you from scrolling down for ages every time you want to post something. :winkgrin:
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*Sigh* The one time I actually get the Green Gem in DOTK3 for 6.000 in Combo (after hours upon hours of playing, mind you), the game lags out during the Matuvu-Combo, making me lose 1.000+ Combo-Points and subsequently restart the Part :tssk:

At least I know for sure that it's possible now; it's only a matter of time until everything falls into place.
1234 wrote: I doubt that this is the reason, but in order to make the snapshot trick work properly, you must have activated the look mode priorly; just as I did it e.g. at the beginning of the video of the Matuvu Combo in DOTK4.
Other than that, I have no idea why it doesn't work for you.
Unfortunately, that is not it. I know that you have to use the Look-Mode prior; I failed many a Combo because I forgot. But I appreciate you trying to help. Guess I'll just have to live with it.

While I was autopiloting through DOTK3, I let my thoughts wander and something just dawned on me:

It would probably be really annoying to play all the way through (for PC-Players at least), but wouldn't it in theory be possible to just use the PCM in TOTL1? The purpose of that would be to use the HMF (near the end of the level) to weaken the first Heckler so he can be taken in Combo prior to/after the Elite Monger. You'd also be able to gain an additional 60 Points for each Elite Monger/Hoodstormer (or Hoodoo, in case of the first Combo) killed with a single hit.
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Sorry for the bit late answer, but uni took up quite some time in the last days.

Anyway, as for your idea in TOTL1, I've actually never thought about possibilities to take advantage of the PCM so far, especially since in the past we didn't want to use it. However if we want to play with it, your suggestion definitely seems to be a good one. It would probably provide some thousand points, which in turn would come in handy for the max in part 2.
Why didn't we actually use the PCM thus far? Was it because of platform differences or just because playing with the PCM is awful, or for another reason?

Also, good job on getting the green gem for 6k points. I guess you're going for 118k in DOTK? :wink:

Concerning the video list, I somehow didn't think of it or so, but obviously the list is too long to post it all at one go. So maybe it'd be better to split it up and make nine posts out of it (similar to MandMs' walkthroughs in page 1). What do you think?
Alternatively I could also upload it to the Wiki. The problem is that the list doesn't really look good yet. By now it's simply an endlessly long list, somewhat sorted, but no more.

I also wanted to say that, in LOTLD3, you can activate the gate and then perform a SJ on the bridge between the matuvus in order to helicopter over the gate and then renew the lockjaw. That way you won't have to hurry that much, which makes the beginning of the final combo significantly easier. Moreover you can then even include the single yellow gem beside the statue in the combo.
However, unfortunately, when you exit the tower (with the stairs), you'll get teleported to the other tower (with the Hoodlums), which will "activate" the red gem in the middle of the room, which in turn will cause it to despawn after some seconds.
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In LOTLD part 2 where it says jump the balloons and collect the 7 yellow gems and get the vortex I can't jump high enough from either the water or the edge of the land to make it to the balloon without the lockjaw. Is there something specific you have to do to make it to the balloons?
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Hello Steo! Welcome to the forum! :)

I guess you don't play on Xbox, do you? The point is that in the Xbox version you can jump a little bit higher than in the other versions. The difference is hardly noticeable, but it's still enough to make this jump (and maybe a few other jumps e.g. in SBTC part 2) impossible on the other consoles. Cut once wrote that the order of the jumping height is: Xbox > GC > PS2 > PC.

If you want to give it a shot, you might try a superjump to reach the vortex at the beginning. You can see one here.
However performing this glitch is probably quite annoying when you try it for the first time. So, if you don't want to put too much effort into it, you can simply play the beginning without the vortex. You'll be still able to get a nice score in the end then. Good luck! :wink:
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1234 wrote:Hello Steo! Welcome to the forum! :)

I guess you don't play on Xbox, do you? The point is that in the Xbox version you can jump a little bit higher than in the other versions. The difference is hardly noticeable, but it's still enough to make this jump (and maybe a few other jumps e.g. in SBTC part 2) impossible on the other consoles. Cut once wrote that the order of the jumping height is: Xbox > GC > PS2 > PC.

If you want to give it a shot, you might try a superjump to reach the vortex at the beginning. You can see one here.
However performing this glitch is probably quite annoying when you try it for the first time. So, if you don't want to put too much effort into it, you can simply play the beginning without the vortex. You'll be still able to get a nice score in the end then. Good luck! :wink:
Hi, thanks for the welcome :)

That explains it then. I played on both PS2 and PC and have yet to try it on Xbox though I do have an original Xbox I haven't used in years that's softmodded. It's nice to know that now because I thought I was just awful (well I still am but maybe just slightly less now that I know that)

At least now I can stop wasting my time trying to make an impossible jump :mrgreen:
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Ah, Rayman 3 scores!

I remember having a lot of frustration playing the levels again and again on my PC to always try and reach a better score even if it's just like one or two more points won per level! I would've play the game for years to achieve the best score ever on the RPC hall of fame. My father seeing me so attracted to the game thought he'd like it too but I did warn him not to play it since he's really easily angered. Too bad he didn't listen to me and started playing the game watching combo videos as I also do. After a week playing, I've asked him how was it going and this just got him started. He looked at me during like one minute without saying one word and then told me the game's fucking shit and took me to the garage to beat the shit out of me with a set of jumper cables.
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Harpic fraîcheur wrote:Ah, Rayman 3 scores!

I remember having a lot of frustration playing the levels again and again on my PC to always try and reach a better score even if it's just like one or two more points won per level! I would've play the game for years to achieve the best score ever on the RPC hall of fame. My father seeing me so attracted to the game thought he'd like it too but I did warn him not to play it since he's really easily angered. Too bad he didn't listen to me and started playing the game watching combo videos as I also do. After a week playing, I've asked him how was it going and this just got him started. He looked at me during like one minute without saying one word and then told me the game's fucking shit and took me to the garage to beat the shit out of me with a set of jumper cables.
All I read was "I remember... then read the last sentence :mrgreen:

Seriously though I'm gonna have to try that on Xbox now just to see that for myself. That's weird having different jump heights. The PAL version of Super Mario Bros. 3 on Super Mario All Stars you can't jump as high either which ruined the game for me tbh when I found out the NTSC one had a higher jump. Really affects the game.
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Steo wrote:All I read was "I remember... then read the last sentence :mrgreen:
I always thought RPC members were welcome to talk about their personal problems on this place. Looks like it's not this way anymore. :(
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Harpic fraîcheur wrote:
Steo wrote:All I read was "I remember... then read the last sentence :mrgreen:
I always thought RPC members were welcome to talk about their personal problems on this place. Looks like it's not this way anymore. :(
Nah it's not like that I still read over the story anyway. I'm not that ignorant :)
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Steo wrote:Nah it's not like that I still read over the story anyway. I'm not that ignorant :)
Are you sure you're not? This method does seem to be used by a lot of fathers around there but it doesn't mean it's not true.

Ask plum's dad, he'll tell you since he has an account here!
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Back in the old days fathers done a lot of stuff. Like when 2 of my uncles tried to take apart a TV thinking it was broke when it was in fact only the antenna, my Grandad got so angry he held them both out the upstairs window by one leg each threatening he'd let them fall. The beating they must've got afterwards also. Think using his belt was a common thing also.
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That's nothing compared to all the times my father took me to the garage. :lol:
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Harpic fraîcheur wrote:That's nothing compared to all the times my father took me to the garage. :lol:
Them damn jumper cables wouldn't be able to jump-start anything ever again with the amount of breaks in them. They might belong in a museum titled "The Jumper Cables Of Fury" :lol:
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At least I might get popular thanks to all the pain my father caused in my life. :D
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Harpic fraîcheur wrote:At least I might get popular thanks to all the pain my father caused in my life. :D
Damn. Now you have me randomly thinking of My Chemical Romance - Welcome To The Black Parade but replacing the word city with garage.

So it goes

"When I was... A young boy... My father... Took me into the garage..."

That's all I can think of :mrgreen:
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