What do you want for Rayman 4 ?

-would you guys want it to be much longer than earlier titles?,
-or want Rayman to talk more?,
-or want it to have higher age rating? (Though I don't see the series ever being rated M, I just don't see Rayman or the others swearing nor beating up guys to bloody pulp though it may depend on how it's done),
-would you guys also prefer if it was a sequel (to 3), interquel, prequel, remake or even some kind of a spinoff (not involving the Rabbids obviously )?

About the same length is fine, no need for him to talk too much (Rayman's not that deep a character ), and a sequel.

As for the age rating, I like what they did in Rayman 3, where there's a lot of adult themes but kids won't understand them and will rather laugh at Globox's antics and André's yelling.

Hunchman801 said:

About the same length is fine, no need for him to talk too much (Rayman's not that deep a character ), and a sequel.

As for the age rating, I like what they did in Rayman 3, where there's a lot of adult themes but kids won't understand them and will rather laugh at Globox's antics and André's yelling.

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Yeah, Rayman isn't excactly the deepest character though I'd prefer if he had a decent amount of dialogue like he did in 2, it'd make him feel more alive, this along with the fact that I like his both French and English voices, and also, this might be slightly off topic but I'm glad that Adsolution (ROTD fan project creator) would try to expand Ray's character by showing his development from lighthearted, kiddy char from 1 to more mature, caring one we see in 2, we'd also see his emotional side and learn quite more about his past, looking forward to it, it'd give the character much more depth than ever before. And when it comes to age rating, I asked about it because of said project (which would be rated T) and Beyond Good & Evil 2 which would most likely be rated M given it's excessive swearing shown in trailer (the first game was rated T and was quite similar in terms of atmosphere to Rayman, atleast IMO, let's hope that it comes out someday though ).

If I recall correctly, Michel Ancel wasn't working on Rayman 3 when they were developing it, so a good Rayman game by a different company in the vein of Crash Bandicoot or Spyro the dragon would be an interesting idea. It's an overly optimistic idea though, considering Rayman has lost much of its popularity since the rabbids games and he is probably not considered "retro" enough (even though he's older than those other classics on the PS1).

I would like to see a Rayman game more in the style of Rayman 3 in terms of powerups and a point system for replayability, the only way I see that happening is if they decide to develop remakes first to reignite Rayman's popularity and I don't think Ubisoft will be the company to start this process. It's also worth mentioning that Rayman is an interesting trilogy because of how much its games differ from one another, and a Rayman 4 that is too similar to one of the other games is probably not a good idea either.

Hunchman801 said:

About the same length is fine, no need for him to talk too much (Rayman's not that deep a character ), and a sequel.

As for the age rating, I like what they did in Rayman 3, where there's a lot of adult themes but kids won't understand them and will rather laugh at Globox's antics and André's yelling.

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Exactly like this.

Rsandee said:

It's also worth mentioning that Rayman is an interesting trilogy because of how much its games differ from one another, and a Rayman 4 that is too similar to one of the other games is probably not a good idea either.

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That's a good point, I also hope Rayman 4 (if it ever comes out) will surprise me in that regard!

I would want it not to suck.

I think Rayman's in a very bad place right now and don't believe a new game is coming anytime soon. I have heard Rayman is now "the shame of Ubisoft Montpellier" after what happened to Ancel. If he ever comes back, I can't imagine him being treated any better than Prince of Persia is currently, and boy that remake looked rough. Now it's delayed and uncertain whether it will ever release -- and in what state.

Droolie said:

I would want it not to suck.

I think Rayman's in a very bad place right now and don't believe a new game is coming anytime soon. I have heard Rayman is now "the shame of Ubisoft Montpellier" after what happened to Ancel. If he ever comes back, I can't imagine him being treated any better than Prince of Persia is currently, and boy that remake looked rough. Now it's delayed and uncertain whether it will ever release -- and in what state.

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Yeah, same goes for Beyond Good & Evil 2, so many potentially good games are being swept under the rug

This situation reminds me of when Capcom forgot about Mega Man for almost a decade after Inafune left. They straight up said they had no idea what to do and that no one felt like they could take up the mantle of Mega Man Guy (until MM11 of course). I believe something like that is happening within Ubisoft. Hopefully they also do what they did with MM11 and play all the previous titles to bring the best of all worlds into R4.

Actually, that might just be what I want the most- a coherent "best of all worlds" approach to every aspect of R4. Combat mechanics, enemy design and control from R3, level design from R2 and the UbiArt games, environments that vary from beautiful and realistic to R1-levels of surreal, etc. I just want a good game, and to be completely honest, no mainline Rayman game hasn't been good.

Aside from that, I dunno; I'd like a higher degree of openness but not to the point of being an open world game, as those are just too bloated with sidequests you really shouldn't do.

EDIT: also, many people don't like Rayman's R3 design (it's my favourite TBH), so letting players unlock and play as Rayamn's R2 design would be a neat bonus for those fans.

Rudie Radio Waves said:

This situation reminds me of when Capcom forgot about Mega Man for almost a decade after Inafune left. They straight up said they had no idea what to do and that no one felt like they could take up the mantle of Mega Man Guy (until MM11 of course). I believe something like that is happening within Ubisoft. Hopefully they also do what they did with MM11 and play all the previous titles to bring the best of all worlds into R4.

Actually, that might just be what I want the most- a coherent "best of all worlds" approach to every aspect of R4. Combat mechanics, enemy design and control from R3, level design from R2 and the UbiArt games, environments that vary from beautiful and realistic to R1-levels of surreal, etc. I just want a good game, and to be completely honest, no mainline Rayman game hasn't been good.

Aside from that, I dunno; I'd like a higher degree of openness but not to the point of being an open world game, as those are just too bloated with sidequests you really shouldn't do.

EDIT: also, many people don't like Rayman's R3 design (it's my favourite TBH), so letting players unlock and play as Rayamn's R2 design would be a neat bonus for those fans.

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Huh, weird, haven't seen many people who dislike Ray 3 design, it's my favourite one as well, and when it comes to open world, I'd personally want one which is neither too enormous but also not too tiny, with simple sidequests in style of LEGO games (defeating small horde of enemies for example) and maybe even random encounters in style of Red Dead Redemption where you could stop a thief or find someone for example.

paulnewman2001 said:

Huh, weird, haven't seen many people who dislike Ray 3 design, it's my favourite one as well

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Well it's less that they openly dislike R3 Rayman and more that they prefer the bandana and neater hair; I see this with quite a few artists, who mostly tend to draw R2 Rayman. I've also seen a lot of them "mix and match" what Rayman parts they prefer.
I like R3's design more because it gives Rayman a little more personality, like he's less just player avatar and more of his own character, and it feels like he's wearing comfier clothes because that's what he likes.

paulnewman2001 said:

and when it comes to open world, I'd personally want one which is neither too enormous but also not too tiny, with simple sidequests in style of LEGO games (defeating small horde of enemies for example) and maybe even random encounters in style of Red Dead Redemption where you could stop a thief or find someone for example.

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Well The Walk Of Life/Power are basically that, right? Having more of them would definitely be fun.
I'd also like a relatively-big-but-not-excessively-big open world Glade of Dreams. A large enough map to entice wanderlust and craft a beautiful and compelling world would be amazing and I'd play that for days; but Rayman's game design has always been based on a level-to-level structure (every Rayman level is a carefully constructed obstacle course, with a beginning and an end) and adding open-world would muddy things up a lot. But the potential pros far outweigh the cons IMO!

Droolie said:

I have heard Rayman is now "the shame of Ubisoft Montpellier" after what happened to Ancel.

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Man, that's quite something. Anyway, I agree that I prefer no Rayman 4 at all rather than a shitty game.

For me it is obvious that the next Dlc is a teaser for Ray 4, so what do you want to see in it ?

Request n° 1: Let the game start with a nap: they had missed the thing with Rayman 2 and RRR 1 & 2, so they have to catch up !

Request N°2 we need mr dark to return, he hasn’t been seen since his getaway in R1

Yes

I’m annoyed they didn’t show what he was up to in the r1 credits tho

I'd like a return to form for the series. I understand that there are still workers at Ubisoft Milan who worked on Rayman 3, so I feel like some of them really understand what made the original trilogy so magical in the first place. Davide Soliani worked on older Rayman titles, and while they weren't mainline games, I can see he is a very genuine man that just wants what the fans want when it comes to Rayman. The DLC will definitely be a way for them to prove to the execs that it will be profitable for them, so I can only hope it sells well.

As for what I would personally like to see, I miss the old Rayman formula of a main villain overtaking the Glade of Dreams and many minions scattered throughout the land with similar theming (Ex. Razorbeard and the Robopirates, Andre and the Hoodlums). I would also like them to bring back that the Glade is, in fact, a Glade of Dreams; Still very nature-based like 2 and 3, but with a splash of that dreamy whimsy of Rayman 1. A return of characters that time forgot like Ssssam and Ly would be wonderful, and fun in-game voice acting like 3 had. I could go on, but there's just too much I would want to see.

Well said

First of all, I would go back to 3D games. Yes, UbiArt's style is beautiful, I'm not denying that, but I think a return to 3D would increase the hype for many, many people.

I would like the game to be an open world in the Glade of the Dreams. I don't mean an open world like Rayman Revolution, which could be quite chaotic without a map, but a well designed open world, with the Glade of Dreams very alive and as colorful and magical as ever, with the possibility of interacting with the different characters that inhabit it, either to continue the story, to do secondary activities, and why not, some other mini-games. I think it would be interesting to see some RPG elements in this game, either modifying Rayman's clothes or improving different attributes of the character, such as sprint speed, swimming ability, helicopter duration... And even some more "curious" attributes, such as his weight . It would also be interesting to be able to alternate the ability to shoot with the ability to throw the fist, thus combining the classic Rayman attack with the attack we saw in Rayman 2. These attack modes could be incorporated somehow in the attributes to improve the character.

I also think it would be a perfect opportunity to give some coherence to Rayman's lore. After all, that's a job that Ubisoft itself should have done back in the past, right?

Yes it would, I’m also gonna join the fun of writing long paragraphs

So I would like, as you said, a vast open world like the one in the switch duology of TLoZ, with certain characters from other rayman titles and maybe even other games? That’d be going back to the original plot

Also, that’d just be a bonus, all i really want is…

MR. DARKS RETURN