Unpopular opinions on Rayman

[SilverLum]

I have a lot of unpopular Rayman opinions, but I think mine would mostly be unpopular with newer fans that didn’t get to know the character. I think Ly is by far the most underutilized and mistreated character in the series. She was planned for so many things and removed from almost all of them, and we haven’t gotten to see her in 3D since Rayman 2

[Greengoop]

I personally don’t care about ly but I understand how mistreated she is

[SilverLum]

I personally don’t care about ly but I understand how mistreated she is

Hmmm maybe the opinion isn’t unpopular enough then! Hahaha

[Greengoop]

I guess kinda? I know ly has a big fanbase for sure tho

[lyndo64]

Ly isn't my favorite Rayman character, but yea, it seems like the devs hate her or something.
Why'd they replace her in Rayman Arena after they started to print out ads with her?

Really odd.

[Greengoop]

It’s either the devs hate her, or they believe the fans hate her

[dr_st]

Ly isn't my favorite Rayman character, but yea, it seems like the devs hate her or something.
Why'd they replace her in Rayman Arena after they started to print out ads with her?

Maybe she was deemed too sexy / suggestive / alluring for a children game.

Of course in Origins they brought the nymphs which are even more so, but that was almost a whole decade later...

[Greengoop]

I understand where you’re coming from, but if that was the case I doubt whether they’d have created the nymphs for a much more child-friendly game

[PluMGMK]

I thought the whole reason Ly didn't make the cut in M was that she was too tall and would be a very awkward fit for the player hull. That was technically also the case for Globox but at least he's wide enough that you don't notice as much.

Plus it's canon that she runs faster and jumps higher than the other characters put together, so it'd be really weird to have her there.

Staying on topic: I like Tily and her theme tune

[☭ CrazyKyoto ☭]

Alright... I found that thread and want to tell you my unpopular opinions.

First one I thing is about not canon thing... I noticed that many artists draw Betilla x Ales Mansay/Magician shippering. I don't like that shippering like most another. This is because... Not even because of canonicity, but because of the following reasons:

1. Some consider this to be canon because the Magician said at the Rayman Activity Center that she is his "favorite fairy". By the same logic, one could generally canonize Betilla's ship with the Clown in Love, who performed love songs in the same game!

2. I don't like headcanons, the authors of which say that Ales did a lot of bad things just to somehow win Betilla's love. But due to the fact that he contacted dubious personalities / began to get involved in dark magic, he became a villain ... And after that, he still becomes "good", and Betilla forgives him all his sins! To me, that's like justifying war crimes.

3. An artist named ShaloneSK... Also known as Shalon Howard... I once saw her art long before I started to recognize many of the original art authors, which I saw for the first time somewhere in 2017-18... Recently I came across her other Rayman art and ... I wish I hadn't seen this...
In addition to art, she had a lot of comics. The first serial comics were "Give and Take" and "A Little Gift". It was they who caused me more hostility both to the ship and to the artist.In short, the first comic was about how Ales (here he is Teensy, if anything) tried to steal Lums from Betilla for some reason. To do this, he sent her a letter about meeting with her. He even gave her flowers. He thus played on her feelings, but the good thing is that his plan is interrupted because of Rayman. Betilla shouldn't have let him escape...
The second is a continue of the previous comics. Here Betilla, after putting Rayman to bed, left her house to visit Ales. They start a dialogue, after which Ales says that he allegedly does not play on her feelings and loves her. And after that, Betilla stays with him and... She drinks with him in bed, having fun... Well, I saw the details on her furaffinity. Then there are moments where she, after such a fun night with the Magician, sent a letter to her sisters about this, and ... Well, they were in awe, to put it mildly (ME TOO!!!), but still they supported their sister. Betilla then didn't keep her word about telling Ray that she was pregnant, and... she SAID ABOUT THIS ONLY AFTER WHEN SHE STARTED IN TRAINS!!! HER SISTERS AND DAMN EVEN MEDICINES CAME TO HELP HER HAVE A BABY!!! THAT'S HOW CORDELLA WERE BORN IN THE WORLD!!! TEENSIE FAIRY THAT LOOK SO WEIRD!!!... ALL THAT STORY LOOKS LIKE LORD FARQUAD GOT ​​HIS PLAN!!! TAKE PRINCESS FIONA AS A WIFE, BECOME THE KING OF DILOK, AND SHREK STARTED CRYING FURTHER, AND FAR NOT BECAUSE OF THE ONION!!!

3.1. I analyzed the comic further and... Well, taking into account many inconsistencies, I came to the conclusion that Ales here did not at all try to change for the better for her sake. That's why it turns out that in the headcanon Betilla fell in love with Ales not as he was before (limbless from R1), but who he became. And besides, he did not change for the better after that. Not to mention the fact that Ales continued to play on her feelings, and very easily took advantage of her when she was drunk.
Ironic thing here is that about these two comics (well, and some art, of course) NO ONE DID ANY DISCUSSION / DISCUSSION ON THE INTERNET !!! Yes, and some other artists have a positive attitude towards it. But this is a pron artist who is known for her toxicity and attempts to violate copyrights with the most cunning and brazen methods...

[Greengoop]

Alright I’m not reading the third one but idk if you’re talking about Mansay or the R1 magician in the first one, and with the second when does Betilla like Ales?

[Dumbo TV]

for the first opinion I think ly is actually just a kind of replacement for Betilla, so I don't see the point of bringing her back and for the magician of origins, why no one thought it was not Ales, that would explain why he does not use magic but mechas (strange for a magician?) he would have simply stolen his hat which would explain why it's a Teensy.

[Greengoop]

Maybe they realised the fans just preferred Betilla?

[Dumbo TV]

And your thoughts on my theory of the magician ?

[Greengoop]

Yes that is a good theory, but he does use his magic in legends however

[Dumbo TV]

yes because they are evil clones created by Polokus' nightmare

[Greengoop]

Oh yeah I forgot about that. This is kinda for the dumb questions topic but do you reckon polokus and Bubble are different characters and the trilogy and the ubiart games take place in a separate world? That’d explain ray’s 2 origin stories

[Dumbo TV]

I suggest we continue our theories in Dumb questions

[Greengoop]

Yes I just did

[SilverLum]

I thought the whole reason Ly didn't make the cut in M was that she was too tall and would be a very awkward fit for the player hull. That was technically also the case for Globox but at least he's wide enough that you don't notice as much.

Plus it's canon that she runs faster and jumps higher than the other characters put together, so it'd be really weird to have her there.

Staying on topic: I like Tily and her theme tune

That’s an interesting theory, but given that she made it as far as being modeled and being included in renders, I wonder if possibly they just wanted a cuter character for little girls to relate to so they went with Tily. I talked with M. Hauss, the man behind Ly’s 3D Arena model and renders, and even he told me he was uncertain as to why she was scrapped.

P.s.- Tily’s theme is very fun!