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Actually, I discovered this trick before reading your post, and now it works all the time :) Also, I've managed to get the hoodstormer in combo with the hoodmongers once, but I'm still losing my combo when jumping off the ledge, and also at the very end, just before breaking the piggy banks. I'm still far from doing it :|
And yeah, as concerns the green gem, I'm improving, but it's damn hard too. But well, considering that collecting twenty yellow gems and then a green gem is worth exactly 9690 points, I won't give up!
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A new Announcement? OMFG!

And interestingly, Xenon made a sextuple post! (Yes, that's what it's actually called)

Will this score-walkthrough allow you to get Maximum Score!? That is, 999,999 points!? Or is that even possible?
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The walkthrough (at present) gives up to 850,000 points, and 999,999 is certainly impossible. It may be updated though!
Hunchman801 wrote:Actually, I discovered this trick before reading your post, and now it works all the time :) Also, I've managed to get the hoodstormer in combo with the hoodmongers once, but I'm still losing my combo when jumping off the ledge, and also at the very end, just before breaking the piggy banks. I'm still far from doing it :|
And yeah, as concerns the green gem, I'm improving, but it's damn hard too. But well, considering that collecting twenty yellow gems and then a green gem is worth exactly 9690 points, I won't give up!
Nice one! I've made some videos dedicated to you and Josh, by the way.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckwlxocm8fU if it's needed, and
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znKec4SX0sE&feature=user

The first shows how to get the Matuvu for Josh. Basically you need to activate look mode immediately after touching the red gem.
The second shows a method for getting 9000 points. My mistake for saying 20 yellow gems should be collected, I completely forgot 9000 was the maximum value... I was thinking of another level. Anyway yeah, there probably are other techniques you could use, but this one worked best for me.

By the way, sorry for the bad quality of them. They were taken from my phone. Although arguably, they are better quality than my digicam xD
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At last, a brand new scores topic 8) It's great to have all those incredible solutions here, now we don't care if RZ gets hacked again. Really, that Mandm is a true genius.
Xenon wrote:My mistake for saying 20 yellow gems should be collected, I completely forgot 9000 was the maximum value... I was thinking of another level.
Here's the combo bonus for each position in the combo chain:

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1: 0 (triggers the combo)
2-5 : 1
6-10: 2
11-15: 3
16-20: 4
20+: 5
According to these facts, if your vortex lasted long enough to collect 20 yellow gems before the green one, you could get it for 1500 × 2 + 1500 × 2 × 5 = 18000 points. However, I remember some glitch in the secret room of the Summit Beyond the Clouds which considerably lowered the amount of points in the combo, so, I may be wrong.
Anyway, using the vortex is a better idea though, because it leads you to the same result (green gem in combo for 9000 points) but saves more gems (not that it makes a big difference, but well ^^). Thank you for that vid, it's great time I focused on the hoodlum combo and the green gem combo.

By the way, I have a question about maximum scores... how come you can't get more than 119.599 points in the Land of the Livid Dead, 109.359 in the Desert of the Knaarens, and only 99.999 in the Bog of Murk? I suppose it has something to do with bonus stages, but I wish someone explained it all to me ^^
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According to these facts, if your vortex lasted long enough to collect 20 yellow gems before the green one, you could get it for 1500 × 2 + 1500 × 2 × 5 = 18000 points. However, I remember some glitch in the secret room of the Summit Beyond the Clouds which considerably lowered the amount of points in the combo, so, I may be wrong.
Well, one of the great annoyances in the game is the fact that no green gem can be taken for more than 9000 combo points. 18,000 points would indeed be possible, 15,000 for the combo and 3,000 for the gem itself. Sadly the developers disabled our ability to get it for 12,000+, probably because the combo metre only has 4 digit spaces. At least it makes the combo easier!
Anyway, using the vortex is a better idea though, because it leads you to the same result (green gem in combo for 9000 points) but saves more gems (not that it makes a big difference, but well ^^). Thank you for that vid, it's great time I focused on the hoodlum combo and the green gem combo.
Actually, it does make a difference :P Once you've got more than 20 yellow gems (and the green one between 10th and 15th position) you'll find that each yellow gem is worth 120 points in suit, and 60 points out of suit, so there's some speed stress involved here! Mind you, it's rather pointless on this occasion as it's hard enough as it is to get the green gem before the Vortex runs out.
By the way, I have a question about maximum scores... how come you can't get more than 119.599 points in the Land of the Livid Dead, 109.359 in the Desert of the Knaarens, and only 99.999 in the Bog of Murk? I suppose it has something to do with bonus stages, but I wish someone explained it all to me ^^
Do you know how the combo system works after you get 99,999 points? This would be the answer to CF, TLOTLD, TDOTK, TSBTC, HH and TOTL. For TBOM things are slightly different, and every point is valuable. According to DTUCC, 100799 points are available, but I don't really understand how this works. I only got to 95571 points in TBOM, and that was bloody hard!
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Xenon wrote:Well, one of the great annoyances in the game is the fact that no green gem can be taken for more than 9000 combo points. 18,000 points would indeed be possible, 15,000 for the combo and 3,000 for the gem itself. Sadly the developers disabled our ability to get it for 12,000+, probably because the combo metre only has 4 digit spaces. At least it makes the combo easier!
According to Mandm:
Everything on the ground floor can be taken in one combo, but as the green gems don’t yield any combo points after 15 items, it is more profitable to split it into two combos.
That must be the glitch I was talking about.
Xenon wrote:Actually, it does make a difference :P Once you've got more than 20 yellow gems (and the green one between 10th and 15th position) you'll find that each yellow gem is worth 120 points in suit, and 60 points out of suit, so there's some speed stress involved here! Mind you, it's rather pointless on this occasion as it's hard enough as it is to get the green gem before the Vortex runs out.
A nice trick would be to get the green gem in combo with the yellow gems on the boxes and then finish the combo easily with those on the ground.
Xenon wrote:Do you know how the combo system works after you get 99,999 points? This would be the answer to CF, TLOTLD, TDOTK, TSBTC, HH and TOTL. For TBOM things are slightly different, and every point is valuable. According to DTUCC, 100799 points are available, but I don't really understand how this works. I only got to 95571 points in TBOM, and that was bloody hard!
Isn't it something like, once you reach 99,999 points, only the points in the current combo will be added? It makes sense then. And I guess there's no such huge combo in the Bog of Murk.
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A nice trick would be to get the green gem in combo with the yellow gems on the boxes and then finish the combo easily with those on the ground.
This is exactly why I take the gems on the boxes prior to the ones on the ground... simply because it's easier to continue. How are you doing with this combo, by the way?
According to Mandm:
Everything on the ground floor can be taken in one combo, but as the green gems don’t yield any combo points after 15 items, it is more profitable to split it into two combos.
That must be the glitch I was talking about.
Was that for the green gem secret in part 1 TLOTLD? I suppose it would make more sense as the Vortex runs out almost immediately after you touch the green gem.
Isn't it something like, once you reach 99,999 points, only the points in the current combo will be added? It makes sense then. And I guess there's no such huge combo in the Bog of Murk.
Exactly. But I don't really understand how 100799 is possible in TBOM. It's possible to hit Razoff 5 times on his wrecking ball, but this doesn't kill him... It means 3000 points would have to be taken off the score before this combo, and I really can't see where to find another 3000 points in TBOM...

Anyways, are you having any luck with TLOTLD?
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I had a thought, seeing as RZ keeps getting hacked (and that's where the other scores topic was) should we invite Mandm here?
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I've sent him a PM, and I really hope he does join.
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Xenon wrote:How are you doing with this combo, by the way?
Bad ^^ But I'll improve :D
Xenon wrote:Was that for the green gem secret in part 1 TLOTLD?
That's from his Longest Shortcut solution.
Xenon wrote:Anyways, are you having any luck with TLOTLD?
Still haven't managed to do the hoodlum combo and the green gem combo. I haven't played since yesterday though.
Holy Crap wrote:I had a thought, seeing as RZ keeps getting hacked (and that's where the other scores topic was) should we invite Mandm here?
It would be awesome if I could ask him questions directly here. At at least, the replies wouldn't be lost because of retarded hackers -_-
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I found the trick of comboing a Matuvu and a gem, just the moment before you get the gem press the strafe button, take the gem and press the X button at the same. This works for me ^^
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I think I now master the matuvu combo: I just did it three times in a row. By the way, the fact that I'm playing with my laptop makes it much harder: there's no zoom key :? I'm still working on the green gem combo, and your technique is really nice, Xenon: I almost did it. As concerns the hoodlum combo, I'm starting to wonder if I'll ever do it. Getting the hoodstormer in combo with the hoodmongers is really hard, jumping off the ledge without losing my combo too, I'm also having trouble killing the first hoodblaster with the heavy metal fist in combo with one of the remaining red gems (that's actually because the camera is turned towards the opposite direction), and I have never ever managed to get the piggy banks in combo with the last red gem. However, I've found some way to dodge the annoying red gem above the plum post, which prevents me from losing my combo there. Damn, it will take me weeks.
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The hard part of the hoodlum combo is not getting the gems above the plum post and getting the hoodstormer in combo. The rest is easy with some practice.
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Really? I can now do the first one, and I managed to do the second one once, but I've never managed to break the piggy banks in combo :?
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This is possible with some practice. I'm practicing on the helicopter combo now. It's hard when you runned away to hit the second splashdash but i think i know a trick for this, now to only test it :D
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Hunchman, here's a little trick I used: Take one yellow gem from around the fountain then kill the three Hoodmongers. After this hit the Hoodstormer 4 times (or 1 charged and 1 normal). Then you can keep calm and just strafe around the fountain collecting the yellow gems, and you can shoot the Hoodstormer easily after the last gem. I'll have to admit, you lose 500 points, but you should still have enough.

And the piggy banks? Do you mean the ones at the end? If so, I empathise with you - these are very hard and I remember them ruining the combo on several occasions. Again, you have to use the take-gem-at-extreme-right-edge technique and shoot just as the lockon appears. It's a ghastly end to such a combo.
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Joshua822 wrote:I'm practicing on the helicopter combo now. It's hard when you runned away to hit the second splashdash but i think i know a trick for this, now to only test it :D
I find it really easy, I always manage to do it now. Mandm's video is a great example.
Xenon wrote:Hunchman, here's a little trick I used: Take one yellow gem from around the fountain then kill the three Hoodmongers. After this hit the Hoodstormer 4 times (or 1 charged and 1 normal). Then you can keep calm and just strafe around the fountain collecting the yellow gems, and you can shoot the Hoodstormer easily after the last gem. I'll have to admit, you lose 500 points, but you should still have enough.
Why would I lose 500 points by doing that? I see no difference with the combo in the video... And anyway, that horrible fountain always protects the hoodstormer... and I'm not quick enough at killing him. I need to find a better position.
Xenon wrote:And the piggy banks? Do you mean the ones at the end? If so, I empathise with you - these are very hard and I remember them ruining the combo on several occasions. Again, you have to use the take-gem-at-extreme-right-edge technique and shoot just as the lockon appears. It's a ghastly end to such a combo.
Yep, that's it. I'll try your trick, but it seems to be the hardest part in this horrible combo. Seriously, are there much harder combos in other levels? :paranormal:
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Xenon wrote:I've sent him a PM, and I really hope he does join.
I did too. :lol: He said he'll check this place out. Getting two invitations will probably make him feel wanted. :lol:
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If there's a way to get those gems behind the wall in the shooting gallery, that could raise score...

...Joshua, you've seen these gems, you know they're real. Could you take a screenshot?
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Actually, i said that this might be possible, but i've never seen them :(

Well, about the matuvu combo, sometimes i still fail, it's really precision work, comboing :work:
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