New info from old R2 site?

Something I find absolutely aberrant is that trend of systematically calling one's drawings art. It's so widespread now that almost everyone, including respectable people, tarnishes this word when referring to their artworks. It just sounds amazingly pretentious, especially once considered the problem of the definition of art.

That's why I usually avoid deviant act, as it makes it look like a place of common intellectual masturbation in which pseudo-elitist artist wannabes spend their time blowing each other :boon:
 
Hunchman801 said:
Something I find absolutely aberrant is that trend of systematically calling one's drawings art. It's so widespread now that almost everyone, including respectable people, tarnishes this word when referring to their artworks. It just sounds amazingly pretentious, especially once considered the problem of the definition of art.
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Well art is purely subjective depending on the individual, but out of interest what would you define as 'art'?
 
Raygirl said:
Well art is purely subjective depending on the individual, but out of interest what would you define as 'art'?
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My subjective point of view is not relevant to such considerations, but I think the definition at Wikipedia is really interesting:
Art is the process or product of deliberately arranging elements in a way that appeals to the senses or emotions.
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All I'm saying is that it should not be associated with every non-utilitarian creation ;)
 
Wait, that's a contradiction o_o

Hunchman801 said:
Raygirl said:
Well art is purely subjective depending on the individual, but out of interest what would you define as 'art'?
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My subjective point of view is not relevant to such considerations
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and then you quote this:

Art is the process or product of deliberately arranging elements in a way that appeals to the senses or emotions.
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What 'appeals' to you may not appeal to me, hence art is subjective based on personal opinion. o0o

Hand up if you think this is art (on a similar theme to Stacey)

marcel-duchamp.jpg
 
C'mon, an upside-down urinal is definetly art, no question about it. :P Seriously, some weird things have really got into galleries...
 
Raygirl said:
Wait, that's a contradiction o_o

Hunchman801 said:
Raygirl said:
Well art is purely subjective depending on the individual, but out of interest what would you define as 'art'?
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My subjective point of view is not relevant to such considerations
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and then you quote this:

Art is the process or product of deliberately arranging elements in a way that appeals to the senses or emotions.
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What 'appeals' to you may not appeal to me, hence art is subjective based on personal opinion. o0o
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True, but my personal point of view doesn't intervene in such a definition, as a result of my first statement :)
 
Hunchman801 said:
Raygirl said:
Wait, that's a contradiction o_o

Hunchman801 said:
Raygirl said:
Well art is purely subjective depending on the individual, but out of interest what would you define as 'art'?
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My subjective point of view is not relevant to such considerations
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and then you quote this:

Art is the process or product of deliberately arranging elements in a way that appeals to the senses or emotions.
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What 'appeals' to you may not appeal to me, hence art is subjective based on personal opinion. o0o
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True, but my personal point of view doesn't intervene in such a definition, as a result of my first statement :)
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My question was to you was 'what do YOU define as art', not 'what does wiki define as art'. I'd just like to hear what you'd classify as art and what you wouldn't. :)
 
spiraldoor said:
Hey look what I found.
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:o Spiral, you do like to bring back my memories! I also remember to visit this website years ago!

By the way, I would also love to see again the mini sites about R1,R2, RM and R3. :D

And Raygirl, I didn't get offended. XD

And you know also that I ain't a rabbid fangirl. (Those people do annoy me, they behave like children... :mefiant: )
 
Hunchman801 said:
Wikipedia said:
Art is the process or product of deliberately arranging elements in a way that appeals to the senses or emotions.
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That definition is bullshit in m opinion, as it not only allows for absolutely anything to be classed as "art", and also implies that anything which does not "appeal to the senses or emotions" is not art. I believe that I know exactly what art is, but there really aren't any words in the English language to describe it.

PluMGMK said:
spiraldoor said:
I can't access it, as I don't have Macromedia Flash or something.
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No, the Web Archive couldn't access it, as it doesn't have Macromedia Flash or something. Ergo, no-one can access it. :(
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I find it difficult to believe that a website which is designed to archive the entire internet, and which we have already seen displaying the Rayman 2 Flash site perfectly, would not have Macromedia Flash...
 
spiraldoor said:
PluMGMK said:
spiraldoor said:
I can't access it, as I don't have Macromedia Flash or something.
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No, the Web Archive couldn't access it, as it doesn't have Macromedia Flash or something. Ergo, no-one can access it. :(
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I find it difficult to believe that a website which is designed to archive the entire internet, and which we have already seen displaying the Rayman 2 Flash site perfectly, would not have Macromedia Flash...
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Oops. :oops: Sorry. Maybe the Flash Animation File wasn't archived then.

BTW, my old homepage is gone forever, because I never backed it up before I replaced it. However, the Web Archive doesn't have it either. :(
 
Haruka said:
And you know also that I ain't a rabbid fangirl. (Those people do annoy me, they behave like children... :mefiant: )
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;D That's cool, I know you're not a rabid fangirl ^_^
 
PluMGMK said:
BTW, my old homepage is gone forever, because I never backed it up before I replaced it. However, the Web Archive doesn't have it either. :(
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What homepage is that?
 
Try googling it and see if it's been cached? You might be able to save some pics or HTML files there.

You should always, ALWAYS have a backup of a site somewhere in like a web design folder or something.
 
StaceyW said:
You should always, ALWAYS have a backup of a site somewhere in like a web design folder or something.
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I know that now, but I was, like, eight at the time.
 
Raygirl said:
My question was to you was 'what do YOU define as art', not 'what does wiki define as art'. I'd just like to hear what you'd classify as art and what you wouldn't. :)
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I wouldn't have quoted Wikipedia if I actually knew how to define art myself :P
 
Hunchman801 said:
Raygirl said:
My question was to you was 'what do YOU define as art', not 'what does wiki define as art'. I'd just like to hear what you'd classify as art and what you wouldn't. :)
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I wouldn't have quoted Wikipedia if I actually knew how to define art myself :P
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I also wasn't asking what the absolute definition of art was, I was asking what you define as 'art'. How about some suggestions of what you'd define as examples of 'high art'?
 
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