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I don’t think his mental state should even be taken into consideration when deciding upon his punishment. He killed almost a hundred innocent people, so he should be made to face the most severe of penalties. I find the idea of showing this man any kind of mercy abhorrent.
 
Actions alone should speak for this criminal's mental circumstances. I don't think any judge in the world would empathise with a person's mental state when dealing with crimes this substantial, although I have heard Norway's sentencing laws are rather lenient?
 
That's what I heard, something like 25 years maximum penalty? This man should almost certainly not be walking free that soon.
 
MrBadGuy said:
That's what I heard, something like 25 years maximum penalty? This man should almost certainly not be walking free that soon.
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Perhaps they should hand him over to the Americans – they’ve got the right idea. He deserves life or death.
 
spiraldoor said:
MrBadGuy said:
That's what I heard, something like 25 years maximum penalty? This man should almost certainly not be walking free that soon.
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Perhaps they should hand him over to the Americans – they’ve got the right idea. He deserves life or death.
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I don't know. I honestly couldn't stand it to hear another ''Proud and Free'' song saying that they are the ones who once again saved everybody. :boon:
I think that if America joins, that might bring more trouble. That appears to be the same reason Europe didn't let them into this problem. Doesn't mean this has actual meaning though, as my brother is the one who told me this. :wink:
 
If it's true, I suspect Norway will probably make an exception for this guy. There's a difference between being politically relaxed and just being morally unreasonable, after all. Could you imagine the chaos that would ensue if this guy was allowed back into society after just 25 years?
 
Xenon said:
If it's true, I suspect Norway will probably make an exception for this guy. There's a difference between being politically relaxed and just being morally unreasonable, after all. Could you imagine the chaos that would ensue if this guy was allowed back into society after just 25 years?
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That's another one to add to my list of best quotes. :P
 
Well it depends on a lot of factors, but the guy is obviously unstable, probably too far gone to be redeemable, and the public would have something to say if he were released I'm sure. The chap needs a full psychological assessment but my best guess would be that there's no hope and he should never be allowed to rejoin society
 
I don't think he'll ever be free again. From what I've read, the maximum sentence in Norway is 21 years in jail, but it can be renewed every 5 years if deemed necessary.
 
Matyuv said:
I don't think he'll ever be free again. From what I've read, the maximum sentence in Norway is 21 years in jail, but it can be renewed every 5 years if deemed necessary.
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That's a good thing.
Say, Matyuv, are you actually from Russia?
 
RayTunes said:
I don't know. I honestly couldn't stand it to hear another ''Proud and Free'' song saying that they are the ones who once again saved everybody. :boon:
I think that if America joins, that might bring more trouble. That appears to be the same reason Europe didn't let them into this problem. Doesn't mean this has actual meaning though, as my brother is the one who told me this. :wink:
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I wasn’t seriously suggesting that the Americans should take over the case – I was simply expressing my preference for their particular brand of justice.
 
spiraldoor said:
RayTunes said:
I don't know. I honestly couldn't stand it to hear another ''Proud and Free'' song saying that they are the ones who once again saved everybody. :boon:
I think that if America joins, that might bring more trouble. That appears to be the same reason Europe didn't let them into this problem. Doesn't mean this has actual meaning though, as my brother is the one who told me this. :wink:
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I wasn’t seriously suggesting that the Americans should take over the case – I was simply expressing my preference for their particular brand of justice.
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That's fine. Everybody has their own opinion. :wink:
 
Matyuv said:
I don't think he'll ever be free again. From what I've read, the maximum sentence in Norway is 21 years in jail, but it can be renewed every 5 years if deemed necessary.
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This is correct, so we don't have to change our laws. And if we actually had changed our laws just in order to punish this guy, it would violate several fundamental principles of the Rechtsstaat, and make the Norwegian democracy a laughing stock for the entire western world.
 
spiraldoor said:
I wasn’t seriously suggesting that the Americans should take over the case – I was simply expressing my preference for their particular brand of justice.
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Knowing how the American police acts, it wouldn't be a bad idea.
 
Matyuv said:
I don't think he'll ever be free again. From what I've read, the maximum sentence in Norway is 21 years in jail, but it can be renewed every 5 years if deemed necessary.
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Hey, not in case of this guy, but what does constitute "necessary"? Does it mean that I can be put for, say, 21 years in jail because I've done something wrong and my enemies can actually make it perpetual jail "because they are alive and so me in jail is necessary"? I hope it is somehow connected to mental state at least (although doctors could be corrupted too...).
 
Holy crap, I've just seen in TV he intended to kill actually 400000 people in Europe, and about 10000 of them being from Portugal. :boon:
 
Haruka said:
Holy crap, I've just seen in TV he intended to kill actually 400000 people in Europe, and about 10000 of them being from Portugal. :boon:
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wjy did he wanted to kill 400000 people? i just thought he didn't liked the government...
 
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