RTAS (Rayman the Animated Series)

[DesLife]

Or I could raise the subject in a public forum so we could discuss it and come to a decision. Crazy, right?

There's no need for sarcasm. You are a mod, Spi, there's no point in bitching about it when you can sort it yourself.

How is he bitching around ? If people truly want to have the topic about this crappy series stickied, it'll remain stickied, even though it's not worth it.


Yes I'm a very subtle kind of troll.

[spiraldoor]

There's no need for sarcasm. You are a mod, Spi, there's no point in bitching about it when you can sort it yourself.

Your ‘Protip: You’re a mod’ post was patronising and immature, so you’re in no position to make accusations of ‘bitching’. As I said, I only wanted to raise the subject and have a discussion rather than rearranging the forum on my own without any input or approval. Do you really think that would have been better?

I never said it was an excuse, I just said that that was my person fanon explanation. Also I don't think there's anything wrong with theory number 2.

• Razorbeard randomly transforms from a snivelling Italian circus worker to a vicious tyrant
• Razorbeard suddenly randomly redesigns his face somehow because he has just realised that he doesn’t like it or something
• Razorbeard somehow gains control of a robotic army consisting of thousands of Henchmen, which come from nowhere and serve him for no reason
• Razorbeard suddenly wants to be a slave master; he sets sail with the fleet of gigantic mechanical flying spaceships which he has inexplicably acquired, travels *away* from the Glade of Dreams, spends the next few million years reducing a hundred peaceful planets to dust, then suddenly decides to *return* to the Glade of Dreams, which he left for no particular reason, and...
• This isn’t worth the headache. I give up.

God, you really have it in for this show, don't you? If you don't like it, then why join the topic just to bitch about how much you hate it? Just leave the thread and let us fangirls do our thing, ta.

‘If you don’t like X, just go away.’ That old standby. It’s very short-sighted. Dissent is something that should be encouraged. If this animated series really is as good as you seem to think it is, someone should be able to make a convincing case for this viewpoint and address the criticisms that have been levelled against it, maybe even bringing people round to your perspective. That’s how discussion works, but unfortunately it seems that you would prefer to take part in one-sided fangirl gushing. Maybe it’s best if you just skip my posts in this thread from now on.

[Electoon]

Am I the only one that's highly dissapointed by the fact that as soon as this thread gets stickied, it descends into this?

[MLII]

Your ‘Protip: You’re a mod’ post was patronising and immature, so you’re in no position to make accusations of ‘bitching’. As I said, I only wanted to raise the subject and have a discussion rather than rearranging the forum on my own without any input or approval. Do you really think that would have been better?

I didn't intend for it to be patronising, sorry. I was a little irritated at the time, mostly at how as soon as the sticky went up people from all four corners were coming in saying how crap RayTAS was. I didn't mean for it to hurt your feelings or anything. And the way your posts came across sounded like you were whining about the desicion and wanted a moderator to take pity on you or something.

See, that's one of the problems with me and the internet: No body language means I keep mis-interpriting people's posts. We can talk about it, if you like. (:

But still, I stand by my suggestion that you sticky the Ray4 thread. I mean, it's not like we have a limit or anything*.

• Razorbeard randomly transforms from a snivelling Italian circus worker to a vicious tyrant
• Razorbeard suddenly randomly redesigns his face somehow because he has just realised that he doesn’t like it or something
• Razorbeard somehow gains control of a robotic army consisting of thousands of Henchmen, which come from nowhere and serve him for no reason
• Razorbeard suddenly wants to be a slave master; he sets sail with the fleet of gigantic mechanical flying spaceships which he has inexplicably acquired, travels *away* from the Glade of Dreams, spends the next few million years reducing a hundred peaceful planets to dust, then suddenly decides to *return* to the Glade of Dreams, which he left for no particular reason, and...
• This isn’t worth the headache. I give up.

Haha, the rearranging-face thing sounds kind of silly when you put it like that. And I didn't say the pirates came from nowhere; maybe he built them or there's a planet of robot pirates that he found or something. I don't know.

...And who says it took him millions of years? I mean obviously IRL space travel would, but this is Rayworld we're talking about here. I don't think the same rules apply.

‘If you don’t like X, just go away.’ That old standby. It’s very short-sighted. Dissent is something that should be encouraged. If this animated series really is as good as you seem to think it is, someone should be able to make a convincing case for this viewpoint and address the criticisms that have been levelled against it, maybe even bringing people round to your perspective. That’s how discussion works, but unfortunately it seems that you would prefer to take part in one-sided fangirl gushing. Maybe it’s best if you just skip my posts in this thread from now on.

Firstly, i don't know if I've said this before, but I don't think RayTAS is good. I know it had bad writing, and bad voice-acting, and I know it's a total continuity headache, but it's despite (or maybe because of ) that that I like it so much.

(Not sure that sentence was worded correctly x.x)

Secondly, I'm all for debate, really. It's just that you're constantly telling us how bad it is whatever chance you get, almost like you're trying to convince us not to like it or something. o-o I mean, I agree with you on most if not all of your problems; difference is, I like the series and you don't. And I'm cool with that.

And I was using "fangirls" as a figure of speech. I don't really consider myself a fangirl. o-o I was, a few years ago, but I'm not quite that obsessional any more (:

TLDR sorry if I pissed you off, I'm all for debating.

* to a certain extent, it would be silly if every single Rayman topic was stickied

EDIT:

Am I the only one that's highly dissapointed by the fact that as soon as this thread gets stickied, it descends into this?

Haha, no you're not. I'm not dissapointed, just kind of shocked. o_o

[Cairnie]

So does the mod team want this unstickied or not, make your minds up :S

[Haruka]

I think it isn't a lot worth making this a sticky. There isn't much that can be talked about it.

[Xenon]

I'm in agreement with Haruka. What's stopping Rayman Designer, Rayman Revolution and Rayman Mobile Games threads becoming stickies also, when this non-canon series isn't even liked by the Rayman community in general?

It's great to have a topic about it, but there are already too many stickies/announcements in this forum in my opinion.

[Adsolution]

Actually yeah, I don't think this necessarily needs to be sticky.

[MLII]

Fine then, unsticky it. o3o It was fun while it lasted, but maybe now we won't get people randomly coming in, ranting, then leaving again.

[Electoon]

I still think it is more worthy of being a sticky then 'Rayman 4', because one is a key part of the history of the Rayman series (although short-lived) while the other is about a game that doesn't exist

But if everyone else wants to un-sticky it, then I can't argue. Maybe it would stop all these page long rants

[Adsolution]

I still think it is more worthy of being a sticky then 'Rayman 4', because one is a key part of the history of the Rayman series (although short-lived) while the other is about a game that doesn't exist

But if everyone else wants to un-sticky it, then I can't argue. Maybe it would stop all these page long rants

Well, it's like making a sticky topic for Rayman Junior, or making one for the Globox minigames. Is that worth it?

[DesLife]

So does the mod team want this unstickied or not, make your minds up :S

LET'S HAVE A PUBLIC DEBATE ON THE MATTER \o/

[Electoon]

Coming soon, the 'Should this thread be un-stikied' poll

[spiraldoor]

I didn't intend for it to be patronising, sorry. I was a little irritated at the time, mostly at how as soon as the sticky went up people from all four corners were coming in saying how crap RayTAS was. I didn't mean for it to hurt your feelings or anything. And the way your posts came across sounded like you were whining about the desicion and wanted a moderator to take pity on you or something.

Not hurt, just irked. And why would I want a moderator to take pity on me... when I am one? Never mind.

Haha, the rearranging-face thing sounds kind of silly when you put it like that. And I didn't say the pirates came from nowhere; maybe he built them or there's a planet of robot pirates that he found or something. I don't know.

...And who says it took him millions of years? I mean obviously IRL space travel would, but this is Rayworld we're talking about here. I don't think the same rules apply.

Now matter how you cut it, these are all huge leaps of logic. The fact that we need to invent loads of odd and inexplicable theories in order to shoehorn the animated series into the same timeline as the games shows that they’re not meant to be connected.

Razorbeard’s name and basic appearance are a direct riff on pirate stereotypes, so it’s clear that he’s supposed to have a common origin with the other Robo-Pirates – in other words, he was designed to be their admiral. Saying that he was just an Italian circus robot that bumped into Rayman once, suddenly acquired Napoleon’s personality, then somehow found himself on another planet where he somehow found and gained control of a Robo-Pirate army that just happened to be there really takes away from the mystique of the character. It’s an extremely weak backstory. The way it’s presented in the games is much better: Razorbeard has wiped out a hundred planets already, and the Glade of Dreams is just business as usual for him. No comments are made about the speed of interstellar travel in Rayman’s universe, but it’s obvious that Razorbeard’s been conquering planets for a very long time; definitely longer than the period between TAS and R2. Not that it’s completely unworkable; it just diminishes the character by giving him a lame origin and greatly shortening his history.

Even if you like the animated series, I can’t understand why you’d want to connect it to the Rayman games, as it clearly does not enhance them.

It's just that you're constantly telling us how bad it is whatever chance you get,

Not at all, but you sure would know about it if I did. Notice that almost all of my posts about the animated series are in this thread? I am not the type of person who obsessively brings up the things they hate. I would rather forget that the animated series existed at all, just like I’d rather forget Justin Bieber and Twilight exist; this is hard when the animated series has a thread stuck to the top of the Rayman forum. If your statement was true, I would have spent the last four years raging about the flaws of the animated series in unrelated discussions, which is clearly not the case. Instead I am simply making on-topic posts in the correct thread. You just don’t agree with them; that’s your problem.

almost like you're trying to convince us not to like it or something. o-o I mean, I agree with you on most if not all of your problems; difference is, I like the series and you don't. And I'm cool with that.

Of course I’m trying to convince you (and everyone else) not to like the animated series. It’s for your own good! You should have higher standards than this. We deserve better, but not if we just lay back and accept whatever rubbish has the Rayman label slapped on it. Sometimes the truth hurts. Sorry.

[Electoon]

Of course I’m trying to convince you (and everyone else) not to like the animated series. It’s for your own good! You should have higher standards than this. We deserve better, but not if we just lay back and accept whatever rubbish has the Rayman label slapped on it. Sometimes the truth hurts. Sorry.

You don't have to enforce your opinion on everybody you know

[spiraldoor]

You don't have to enforce your opinion on everybody you know

So arguing about the quality of something is ‘enforcing your opinion on everybody’. Good to know.

[Electoon]

But even you just admitted just now that you wanted to make everybody hate the Animated Series because you don't like it!

Eh, I don't think I want to get involved in this anymore

[Cairnie]

JFC are you all still shitfitting over this? I really don't know what's more annoying, this or the number of "OMG IS THAT PHILIP J FRY AS RAYMAN??" comments I get on my youtube. So uh, we better cool things down a bit here eh?

[spiraldoor]

But even you just admitted just now that you wanted to make everybody hate the Animated Series because you don't like it!

Correction: because it sucks and was made without any respect for the games. Skip my posts if you’re afraid they’ll change your opinion.

[Adsolution]

But even you just admitted just now that you wanted to make everybody hate the Animated Series because you don't like it!

Correction: because it sucks and was made without any respect for the games. Skip my posts if you’re afraid they’ll change your opinion.

Are you stating that as fact or as opunion?