Minor-T5 said:
Remember guys, Revenge of the Dark.
Yep, mentioned it in an earlier post. I'm really excited for it, and even if we don't get another 3D Rayman after Legends, we still have Ad's game to look forward to.
sergiomonty said:
Wii U is getting an exclusive demo for Rayman Legends... yeah right. I don't trust ubisoft anymore. They're probably releasing the same demo for Xbox 360/PS3 too. Because "fanbase asks for it".
Yep, that's already kind of obvious. It's unlikely that the demo will be different depending on the console.
Master4lyf1 said:
That is true, but things were worryingly quiet when the series split back in '08 or '09, I'll admit, it did seem like we'd reached the end of the road, my concern is that, even though we're not there anymore, should Legends tank, we could end up in much worse.
However, it's probably me being a little too worrisome, and for that I apologise.
I doubt the game would bomb, considering Origin's success. Sure, Origins didn't do
too well but it was still kind of successful and at this point I'm sure it'll stay that way with Legends. I'm just afraid of what Ubisoft will do with Rayman after that, success or not. Like you said, if the game does tank, then things could get much worse. But I'm more afraid of what will happen if the game succeeds. If they make another 2D game after Legends, I'm pretty sure that a lot of others will get pretty angry, because they're sick of all the 2D games, but then plenty of others will be cheering, and the whole fanbase would split in two. And we really don't need any of that.
But I think it's more likely that after Legends, Ubisoft will take a break from Rayman and make a sequel to Beyond Good & Evil, so there's no point worrying over anything now.
Slogbait said:
Even if Rayman "disappears", it's bound to re-emerge in the future. Sometimes franchises go under for a while because something in the past fucked them up (usually because of the publisher) but fans can be really adamant about getting it back on its feet. That happened to Oddworld for about 6 years, and it's picking itself back up.
Is it the ideal situation? No. Definitely not. But the fact is, even when things go downhill Rayman will find its way back to the top eventually.
Exactly. And it's likely that Rayman will "disappear" for a bit. Just think about it, we already had Origins come out not way too long ago, and now we're having a second game come out this quickly. Meanwhile, in the past, the first three games were always released five years after the last one (about five years). And as much as I'd want them to, Ubisoft can't focus only on Rayman, they have other games to make as well. They're already planning on a Beyond Good & Evil sequel, and I really think that after Legends they'll take a break from Rayman and do that. They might go back to him after, but they might not yet because they could be busy with other games, no one knows. But it's unlikely that they'll just completely abandon Rayman forever. Hah, "Rayman forever", see what I did there?
Rayman is and always will be Ubisoft's original mascot, so I doubt they'd let him go. Not only that, but a lot of fans are already enraged at Ubisoft for delaying Legends, with many even claiming that they won't buy the game, and letting Rayman go would only make things worse. They'd lose a lot of customers that way.
Slogbait said:
Then again, not many platformers score really high nowadays. Shooters and racing games are all the rage - maybe an icon as strong as Rayman, with a legacy coming back from the nineties, will present the genre with some good titles.
And then there's always the fans. Revenge of the Dark, Dreambound, my own game and probably at least a handful more will maybe inspire others to at least visit the series if they find the games. Other derivative works as music and artwork will probably keep Rayman alive for a long time to come - if not in games, at least in spirit.
I think Legends might get a bit successful. Yes, it is a platformer, and no, sadly, platformers are not the shit like they were back in the '90s...But, like you said, Rayman is a game series that started way back in '95. I think it has a chance, because of that fact alone, and also because of the fact that it's well-loved, and even if it doesn't make it big here, I'm sure it'll be all the rage in France. Heh, heh.
I'm not too excited about Legends, though, I'm much more eager to see Revenge of the Dark.
sergiomonty said:
What makes Rayman Origins valuable is not only the innovative engine, but also the fact that it is the resurrection of an almost dead series.
The end of the awkward Rabbids era just raised the hype for this:
Even when Rayman was depicted as a crazy pervert... this was good, and I remember it was one of the happiest moments of my life (well, not my life, but it was an amazing day).
I also remember the hype that I had for Legends, the engine was so improved, the artstyle was so amazing, that I just went to tell everyone about it, even my mom (and she doesn't give a shit about videogames). What can I say? Origins was decent, but I wanted far more.
True. I don't really mind that Rayman was depicted as pervert, or that he was depicted as dumb, or the fact that the series ending up going down the comedic road, instead of the dark road seen in Rayman 2. It's still Rayman, and it's still pretty fun - the only problem I have would be with the plots of Origins and Legends, which are pretty weak. But it's more about comedy and having fun in Origins and Legends, and I'm fine with it.
I also must say, I really do like the way Legends is looking. Origins looked pretty nice and all, but it just looked like a regular ole Flash game that you can play for free on the Internet - it looked a bit cheap. Legends, on the other hand, is a very big improvement, visually. Everything looks nice and shaded, and it looks a bit 2.5D to me. Maybe somewhere between 2D and 3D, but not quite 2.5D; somewhere between 2D and 2.5D.
Oh, you can bet I'll play this a lot!
Didn't catch that reference... I must be retarded. It must be part of the water level that they mentioned that was inspired by Jules Verne.
It's the type of features that 2d platforming games don't have and I'm still wondering why. Y NO ONLINE CO-OP, Y
