Rayman Legends

[TheTempurmental]

Rayman or Globox? And no fair saying both… Globox

MA: I would go with Globox because he’s very stupid and I think being stupid is more relaxing than thinking too much.

That is a FANTASTIC philosophy!

[GNineify]

Well, my source of relaxation comes from sitting down and thinking about things

[TheTempurmental]

I used to like to think deeply as well, but all the arguments I would get into would ruin my mood and make me stay up too late thinking about what to type next, ect. One morning I decided I would be a lot happier if I didn't take things too seriously all the time and just had fun. It's worked so far!

[sergiomonty]

Oh but it does. There are people who, unlike you, not only play a game simply for its gameplay, but also for its story, environments, music, etc. Are you saying this is only important in tv shows?

I hate to say this, but yes. Well, movies too.

True, Rayman 3 is not without its flaws, just like Rayman 2. The combat is often criticized in both games, and let's admit that Rayman 2's combat was worse than Rayman 3's. Rayman 2 also had less content. So why is it that many here think Rayman 2 is still a better game?

The combat in Rayman 2 is not worse. It's just basic. Why, you say? because the combat was not the focus. The focus was almost entirely in the platforming and the puzzle solving. Combat was more like a minigame in Rayman 2. In Rayman 3 it is a chore.

Critizicing the content of a N64 game is JUST. PLAIN. CHEAP. Seriously, we're being chronologically fair and you had to come up with content? if that's the case then Rayman Legends is the best Rayman game because it has online. The content in Rayman 2 was okay. Just take every other N64 game, like, let's say, Yoshi's Story, or even Super Mario 64. Do these games have more content than Rayman 2? For it's era, Rayman 2 has a pretty amount of content. And this is said by someone who played Rayman 2 a few years ago.

Yep, you guessed it. Because the Hall of Doors was starry and beautiful. The overall feeling (which depends largely on the atmosphere) of the game was simply better.

I didn't guess, then. The world is pretty and interesting for the age the game was released. But it's not the final appeal of the game in any way.

I agree, that was quite bad in Rayman 3. I hope they never do that again. But it didn't matter: Rayman 3's worlds had a better atmosphere and were quite a lot more interesting than the levels in Rayman Legends, which is why I will still replay Rayman 3 more than Rayman Legends (and Origins).

You're turning a terrible game design decision into a positive? woah... I... I guess you truly love the game but... well... ehm... woah.

Since when does every game need multiplayer?

It's not necessary, but it's a well received plus if added correctly. Rayman Legends added it correctly and made it innovative (At least on the Wii U... and partially on the PS Vita)

Either way, Kung Foot only gives hours of entertainment if you're willing to play the same game over and over and over again.

Like Call of Duty, Halo, Madden, etc. All of them are the exact same game when you replay them. The different strategies are what make it different everytime.

So why do you even prefer Rayman 2?

For the time it was released it was perfect. It has the perfect amount of content. Rayman 3 is a Gamecube game. For its standards it truly needed a little more content. Sometimes I feel like Rayman 3 is even shorter than Rayman 2.

Excuse me? Rayman Legends is far more linear than the 3D Rayman games. There are only a few levels I can name that weren't extremely linear in Rayman Legends, and they were: Mansion of the Deep, the Amazing Maze, uh... hmm... can't find any others at the moment.

Sure. Please name a few in Rayman 3.

I agree that Rayman Legends has a lot better platforming. You have to think about which path you take a lot in the invasion levels, for example. But a lot of that can be very frustrating. It's trial-and-error.

It's not like in Rayman 3 you had to restart the entire world if you didn't get the perfect amount of jewels with a perfect timing in one single area of one single level, right? That wouldn't be frustrating anyways, right?

Rayman 2 and 3 focused on the journey more than the platforming

No. Rayman 2 was almost entirely platforming. Which I appreciate.

This makes me wonder whether anyone can even compare Legends with Rayman 3.

Rayman 3 is for most the least liked in the original trilogy. The original trilogy, though, is considered like the symbol of perfection for the franchise. Newcomers like Origins and Legends are controversial because they're a return from the dark Rabbids era... and they make things a little different compared to previous entries. While Origins was great, it was terribly flawed despite of how good it was, so it couldn't enter the top 3 (at least for most of us), but Legends fixed those flaws and by how great it is, it truly seems like it wants to steal the third place. That's why there's a comparison between Rayman 3 and Rayman Legends. To see if a newcomer has finally reached enough glory to beat nostalgia.

I know for sure that I like Rayman 3 a lot more and will still replay it more than Rayman Legends, which I will likely never touch again after I unlock the final skins.

Meh. Your personal tastes I guess

I also know why I like it more. I tried to explain that in my last few posts and whether that makes sense to you or not is entirely up to you. I'm sure a lot of people share my opinion though, so you might want to think about it just a little.

Don't worry, I understand I mean... it's what you like, isn't it? For a reason I prefer Super Mario Sunshine over Super Mario 64. It's not general consensus, it's just personal preference.

(Rayfist you're weak ¬¬)

[TheTempurmental]

Woah, just played "Mansion of the Deep". New favorite level, right there!

[Rayrobi]

Strange thing i completed mansion of the deep without crossing any sentry light or laser and didn't get the achievement...

[Raven_Guardian]

Rayman 3 is for most the least liked in the original trilogy.

That's not entirely true. In the french fandom, there are many who has Rayman 3 as their favorite.

Mansion of the deep is also my favorite level with the labirynth.

[Haruka]

Strange thing i completed mansion of the deep without crossing any sentry light or laser and didn't get the achievement...

Odd, because I got it. Are you sure the sentries didn't beep?

@Raven There are also plenty of people that have R1 as their least favourite merely because of the difficulty, but it is not my case.

[Droolie]

Oh but it does. There are people who, unlike you, not only play a game simply for its gameplay, but also for its story, environments, music, etc. Are you saying this is only important in tv shows?

I hate to say this, but yes. Well, movies too.

I suppose you hate most RPGs and adventure games then? They're tedious and boring. Really not fun to play at all.

Sorry, but that one reply just explained everything to me. You're one of those people who only care about gameplay. I guess you're right then that Rayman Legends has better gameplay than Rayman 3. If that was all games were about for me, I would be crazy about Mario, but here I am, on a Rayman forum.

All of your arguments in your previous posts defend your views based only on gameplay and content of the game, but that was not what I was discussing anyway. Yes, Rayman Legends has good gameplay. Yes, it has a lot of content (that I was able to complete fully without replaying anything, but that's another matter). I agree with you on this. But because of the many reasons I listed that you do not care about (because atmosphere isn't important in videogames), it's not as good as Rayman 3. At all. In my opinion, and in many others'.

That's why there's a comparison between Rayman 3 and Rayman Legends. To see if a newcomer has finally reached enough glory to beat nostalgia.

Your constant thought that nostalgia has any part in this is quite irritating. I can assure you that I let as little nostalgia as possible affect my views on any of the Rayman games. You don't need nostalgia to notice that Rayman 3 had better atmosphere, a better story (obviously), better pacing, a better world, better music (slower), and I could probably go on like this. But if you only care about gameplay and content (not content in terms of new worlds, not even new levels, but just in terms of more stuff to play), yes, Rayman Legends is a better game.

Strange thing i completed mansion of the deep without crossing any sentry light or laser and didn't get the achievement...

Same thing here. It seems you have to replay it without using the "restart level" button if you get it wrong. So if you fail, exit the level and go back into the painting. Make sure not to risk going through that light that turns on and off near the entrance of the left part to get the Teensy either. That helped for me.

[Haruka]

I swear that I did the whole level without touching any of those and I got the achievement.

Anyway, I am in a wierd situation. As a gamer, this is my order of preference: R2 > R1 > RL > R3 > RO. But as a fan, this is my order of preference: R2 > R1 > R3 > RL > RO.

I start to have real doubts of which to trust, but I think the only way to figure that out is to replay RL more times and see if the enjoyment is better than when replaying R3, but I believe it will be probable that R3 will end up more enjoyable.

[Rayrobi]

I did it with and without using the restart level button. Maybe i'll try what you say and go above the aquariums instead of under them.

[Raven_Guardian]

I swear that I did the whole level without touching any of those and I got the achievement.

Anyway, I am in a wierd situation. As a gamer, this is my order of preference: R2 > R1 > RL > R3 > RO. But as a fan, this is my order of preference: R2 > R1 > R3 > RL > RO.

I start to have real doubts of which to trust, but I think the only way to figure that out is to replay RL more times and see if the enjoyment is better than when replaying R3, but I believe it will be probable that R3 will end up more enjoyable.

You put R3 twice in your second classement

[Droolie]

I swear that I did the whole level without touching any of those and I got the achievement.

Anyway, I am in a wierd situation. As a gamer, this is my order of preference: R2 > R1 > RL > R3 > RO. But as a fan, this is my order of preference: R3 > R1 > R3 > RL > RO.

I start to have real doubts of which to trust, but I think the only way to figure that out is to replay RL more times and see if the enjoyment is better than when replaying R3, but I believe it will be probable that R3 will end up more enjoyable.

You put R3 twice in your second classement

So that means Rayman 3 is at least twice as good as RL, right?

I did it with and without using the restart level button. Maybe i'll try what you say and go above the aquariums instead of under them.

Tell me if it works! I have a friend who might make an achievement guide for Rayman Legends and that kind of information would be quite handy for it.

[Haruka]

Sorry, I just fixed the thing.

I start to fear I'll end up doing the same as Droolie: when I reach the point I unlock the two last skins I won't repeat RL so soon.

[Rulez]

You're turning a terrible game design decision into a positive? woah... I... I guess you truly love the game but... well... ehm... woah.

stupid

[sergiomonty]

Haruka, no Don't do this to me </3

Oh but it does. There are people who, unlike you, not only play a game simply for its gameplay, but also for its story, environments, music, etc. Are you saying this is only important in tv shows?

I hate to say this, but yes. Well, movies too.

I suppose you hate most RPGs and adventure games then? They're tedious and boring. Really not fun to play at all.

How weird. I actually enjoy RPG's for their gameplay. The story is more important in those because well... They're RPG's. They're slow paced so they must remain interesting.

Platformers. Those don't need a plot to be enjoyable. A plot makes them more interesting? yeah. Can it be the most important aspect? Not at all. A platformer with an interesting plot but with clunky gameplay is immediately dead.

You're turning a terrible game design decision into a positive? woah... I... I guess you truly love the game but... well... ehm... woah.

stupid

Yeah, I know, that's so stupid.

[Rulez]

You're turning a terrible game design decision into a positive? woah... I... I guess you truly love the game but... well... ehm... woah.

stupid

Yeah, I know, that's so stupid.

no you is stupid cuz you Com PLETELY not underesting of what he say xDD its ok sergio cuz ur loos buthoel i find vary atractiv and ur good person afterall.

[sergiomonty]

How silly, Tomek.

Meh, I guess I can't discuss against a fanbase. You have the right to prefer the classics I guess.

Don't worry, Rayman Legends...



You'll always be in my top 3 and in my heart :3

[TheTempurmental]

I appreciate a game for what it's trying to be. If it wants to be story-driven, than it should have a good story. RL is a Gameplay-driven game, and the gameplay is great, so in my book, that equals a good game. Criticizing RL for being too focused on gameplay is like saying a comedy movie has too many funny parts. I know the previous games have had deep plots, but all the Rayman games are unique, too! RL is just another addition to the collection of diverse games we call a franchise, I don't see why it has to be so much like the others.

[OCG]

My order of Rayman games as a gamer and fan is this one
R1 > R2 > RL > RO > R3
As for RL, I will continiue challanges to play every day for many years but I am not sure about levels.