Rayman Legends

[Hunchman801]

Tonight at Victoria station there were consoles to play Legends. Didn't stop by as I was on my way home to play it, but here are a couple pictures:

[Zikken]

I really loved 20,000 lums under the sea, I think its my favorite. I'm currently at Olympus Maximus, love the little shadow creatures.

[Haruka]

Thanks for sharing the photos, Hunch.

[sergiomonty]

and placing his thoughts up on a pedestal is argumentum ad verecundiam in its most literal, upright form.

Stop talking in german you fucking nazi.

[Haruka]

That's latin. ._.

[sergiomonty]

That's latin. ._.

[Adsolution]

@Serza I honestly don't like underwater levels normally, but I think the way it was done in RL was much more pleasant. It might be linked with the fact it is mixed with a spy-alike theme.

I aways thought it was some what of a James Bond theme.

James Bond is a spy (among many other things). Pretty much every spy theme in history has been lifted from 007.

Though yeah, I liked these, partly in fact that many of them actually took place out of the water.

[Cairnie]

I went out of my way to go to that booth in Victoria but it was just lame in the end; they didn't even give me anything other than the photo and when they tried to get me logged into Twitter the shift key on their keyboard app didn't work so I couldn't even tweet it.

[Haruka]

@Sergio I admit for once I got scared, but could we calm down the storm a little? Only thinking this all started with personal reviews of RL compared with other games this went a little far too serious.

[Serza5]

@Serza I honestly don't like underwater levels normally, but I think the way it was done in RL was much more pleasant. It might be linked with the fact it is mixed with a spy-alike theme.

The spyish theme is cool I guess. But what really ticks me off is the light creatures, in one level I skipped a hidden Teensie room because I found the puzzle too frustrating.

[Master]

Hm, interesting, they're being a little more proactive in their promotion of Legends, aren't they?

[OCG]

@Sergio I admit for once I got scared, but could we calm down the storm a little? Only thinking this all started with personal reviews of RL compared with other games this went a little far too serious.

I also wish for this to stop. Both Rayman 3 and Legends are awesome games anyways. It should not matter which one we prefer more.

[Plejadenwolf]

This is either fitting to put between these discussions or not, I don't know but I want to say things. I know that Ubisoft intended RL to be just about playing the game and having fun but dear fucking gosh, look at the potential for a nice story to go along! In the Rayman franchise I have always wanted to learn about all these characters, see their personality and listen to their dialogue. In RL, they all look so interesting, topped with great magical atmospheres, but then it becomes a disappointment when you never get any reason for what is going on and the only descriptions for these guys are just those little ones in the gallery. I don't want to think of Rayman simply as some guy who I have to control. Rant about how I am getting seriously hungry for at least some kind of storytelling number whatever ends here.

Thing is with Legends is that, yes it's clear that the game wasn't made to be heavily story-driven and that doesn't make it a bad game. But it's lack of storytelling is it's biggest flaw. It's exactly as GN said; you meet these characters and see all these levels but you hardly know anything about them, only thing plausible about it is that it's more than what Origins gave us. Of course given the style of gameplay of both games have it'd be hard to make any sort of story, they probably could of had more dialogue in between levels but I can't see either games having cutscenes like they did in R2 or R3.

This is exactly what I thought. The problem (or benefit?) with all the Rayman games is that the artistic style changes dramatically when you compare all the games which pretty much messes up the universe in which all the characters live. It was okay and understandable between the first three Rayman games, you just needed some imagination to fill up the missing gaps of information. The problem with the recent Rayman games is that there is barely something which holds this universe together. In Rayman 1 there wasn't much story, too. But it had some hidden tips about story relevant things (the photos of how the characters went on journey), a coherent world map with absolute different levels (!), bosses who are each of them legendary and memorable (just look at Space Mama and her flying washing machine and you know what I missed in Legends and Origins), a badass main villain (the last boss in Olympus Maximus was great, for me one of the highlights, but he isn't the main villain), more "deep" level background designs like the one seen in Mr. Stone's Peaks (Part 4: https://raymanpc.com/wiki/en/File:EauMonte.png) which really release some kind of wanderlust and background information for the characters. Origins and Legends had some great backgrounds, too. But you don't even have the fucking time to just chill a little bit. Calming down on the peak of a mountain and just watch for the nice level background. This doesn't work that much in Origins and Legends because the levels are filled up with things. There are often vertical props instead of horizontal platforms and those vertical props are very much compressed, creating a much more density of things shown in the levels.

As for character information it lacks a serious amount in Legends and Origins. I mean, there is not even a real coherence between Barbara and Rayman. You just "rescue" (ending the level) and she pops up out of nowhere. She could be a far relative of Space Mama or even her daughter... We'll never know. The only real information comes from the trailer in which she first appeared. I fully agree with you on that GNineify, there is so much potential for something which holds it all together. Five magician teensies are not cool. The idea with some more dialogue would be a possibility and doesn't have to annoy those people who don't want a story at all, just something optional but plausible.

However, I don't want to say that Rayman Legends is a bad game. It's definitely not. But it's just a breakup for someone who enjoys the Rayman universe as a whole. It should have been a game within an universe, not a game with a universe in it. But that's just my point of view, criticizing some things I expect from every Rayman game secretly.

[TFDS]

I finished Fiesta de Los Muertos today and I think it will end up being my favorite world.20.000 Lums under the Sea is next.
Also,I just love the challenges!The only one that annoys me is Murfy's Dungeon.It gets very confusing when you have to run,jump,punch,glide and control a Greenbottle at the same time.

[sergiomonty]

@Sergio I admit for once I got scared, but could we calm down the storm a little? Only thinking this all started with personal reviews of RL compared with other games this went a little far too serious.

Don't worry Haruka

I was kinda irritated, but now I'm okay.

...Hopefully this discussion ends here

[Haruka]

@Serza I honestly don't like underwater levels normally, but I think the way it was done in RL was much more pleasant. It might be linked with the fact it is mixed with a spy-alike theme.

The spyish theme is cool I guess. But what really ticks me off is the light creatures, in one level I skipped a hidden Teensie room because I found the puzzle too frustrating.

Honestly, if that was frustrating, then be prepared for the later Invaded levels and the 8-bit musics from the Livid Dead Party. Friendly advice.

[Master]

Very much what Haruka said, Livid Dead Party and the later invaded levels are hard.
@TFDs, You can walk in Murphy's dungeon, you might find it easier to deal with some obstacles.

[TheTempurmental]

@Sergio I admit for once I got scared, but could we calm down the storm a little? Only thinking this all started with personal reviews of RL compared with other games this went a little far too serious.

I agree, this is getting stupid. Let's cease!

[Serza5]

Guys if you want the arguments to stop then stop posting about it ffs.

@Serza I honestly don't like underwater levels normally, but I think the way it was done in RL was much more pleasant. It might be linked with the fact it is mixed with a spy-alike theme.

The spyish theme is cool I guess. But what really ticks me off is the light creatures, in one level I skipped a hidden Teensie room because I found the puzzle too frustrating.

Honestly, if that was frustrating, then be prepared for the later Invaded levels and the 8-bit musics from the Livid Dead Party. Friendly advice.

Sounds like fun.

[MyBodyIsReady]

Ok finished the level articles from Teensies in Trouble to 20,000 Lums Under the Sea on RayWiki. I must do something Raymany before playing the game (STILL WAITING FOR IT, DAMN GAME.CO.UK)