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Which version is your favourite?

PS3
32
16%
Xbox 360
33
17%
Wii
28
14%
PC
86
43%
PSVita
16
8%
3DS
5
3%
 
Total votes: 200

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Re: Rayman Origins

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Keane wrote:
OldClassicGamer wrote:EDIT: He actually responded to me nicely and he fixed link. Maybe iambored2006 changed
He was a true comedian. One of my favourite jokes, where was it... ah! Here it is. A classic. He really shined when it came to unintended comedy.
Oh hehe that topic is an excellent read! I'm losing myself in the walls of text there. I don't even dare start reading from page 1 upwards (I started at your link). So far, I'm loving Tobbe's responses. His logic is sound and his way of breaking down other people's arguments has always amused me and given me an interesting read. Actually, most of the replies there are pretty worthwhile.
Reiska wrote:There's no doubt which track is the best one from Origins.

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Oh hey I was just playing this on the piano a few hours ago. I love this song, but this rendition is pretty nice. I think I'll steal some parts off her! ;) Though I do like to put more little flails in my piano play - hers is very 'straight and tight' if you catch my drift.
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SilentSanctuary wrote:Wow, would that perhaps be the only good thing in the GBC games?
Absolutely not!
Shrooblord wrote:Right, I played through the entirety of Rayman GBC and I must say the game is
PURE. WIN.
The music, of course, is wonderful, and it's fun to recognise each tune all the time. The only themes I cannot place are the Bonus Level (Time Attack) and the one from Mr. Dark's showdown battle scene. Though I can well imagine the last to be made especially for the game, and it could also be the Time Attack one was too.
The graphics are simply stunning. For only 64 possible colours, the amount of liveliness and magic they seemed to pump out of the graphics is insane! I especially love the foresty areas, where you can see the colours of the flowers, trees, cliffs - all very Rayman 2-esque and no failure in any aspect at all. I simply have no bad remarks on the graphics, except that maybe the Antitoons and Electoons are a bit unrecognisable, but what could you expect from a tiny GBC screen?
The gameplay is great. The amount of backtracks during one level is a fun one, and not an excessive amount of going back is needed to grab that one cage or extra life, though enough of them were added to keep all the levels interesting. I also liked how every area is concluded with a flooding level; I always thought the original Rayman had loads of them too, but it appears that was the GBC version that merged with the Ray1 experience. Also some level areas from GBC had been mixed in with those of R1, so it was nice to remember the places that were in my head all the time, but weren't actually in R1. I like how the GBC version introduced new enemies, as well as reshaping or restyling old ones. There are no more Hunters, which might be a shame, but I think it's quite alright, since I never really liked spammy waves of flying bullets with mallets anyway. Granted, it's very cartoony, but it can also be quite frustrating. It's also quite malicious how everything in GBC gets beheaded when it dies; Livingstones, the weird plant things in the Arcane Forest, bats - everyone loses their head. The design of the levels themselves is terrific as well; if you go through one part that passes underneath another you've already been to, you can safely assume there will be one point where you will end up back on the old path, though going into a new direction. This is a nice feature, in my opinion.
And the ending was quite fitting. Justice is brought to the evil sourcerer, some funny moments are placed in for those who enjoy them and finally you get to go to the world map, which hold all the places you have yet to bust out some Electoons. Also 5 question marks point out a new mysterious world that may or may not be accessed - who knows! I will play through the whole game to break all remaining cages and find out if any of that opens one of these new worlds.

So, overall, Rayman GBC is a great game indeed. I cannot find many weak points, not as many as I can find in R1. Hey, I love R1, but there are so many bitchy things about the ways you can die or have to precisely do something to get to one teeny little place, that the game gets on my nerves a lot of the time. I know, it's challenging, and I like that, but I don't like the challenges R1 sometimes presents me - but I guess that's just a matter of taste.
So, if you've got an old Game Boy Colour dusting away in the cupboard, get into your wallet and rush to the next second-hand store to see if they've got Rayman GBC. I believe it's well worth it.
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Also, I was really interested in reading the ongoing discussion, but then I saw unspoiler-tagged mentions of Legends so I skipped reading. It seemed very interesting, but I just don't want spoilers on an installment of my favourite game series of all time.
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Re: Rayman Origins

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sergiomonty wrote:It's just an animation. Bosses don't just disappear in a cloud when Rayman defeats them, so they simply leave. Rayman 1 is just that cheesy. Something usually happens to them, or they just decide to dance along with Rayman. These bosses just decide to escape.
You discount animations despite the fact that the entire game is literally made of them. Why would they be shown fleeing completely unlike every other enemy and boss in the game unless this had some significance, namely the fact that they are Mr Dark rather than good characters he has corrupted.
spiraldoor wrote:Maybe because you don't actually fight him? Or what? do you need a different coloured bar to show Mr Dark's resources? when you can simply understand by simple view that he's losing all of the last resources that he owns?
At no point in the game is the health bar used to signify anything other than health. At no point in the game does anything other than the face of the character you are battling appear next to the health bar. It is very unlikely that the developers would simultaneously change the meaning of the heads-up display in two different ways in the last part of the last level. It's not a magic bar. It does not signify magic. It has Mr Dark's face next to it. It is Mr Dark's health bar. Rayman is fighting Mr Dark. You are making stuff up.
sergiomonty wrote:And as long as there's not a solid proof that all of the hybrids coming from different random angles are Mr Dark, the theory of Mr Dark suddenly becoming a shape-shifter is as ridiculous and as speculative.
sergiomonty wrote:Do you think this is a game or something? Pal, I have no problem with Mr Dark going off-screen. As you said, yes, the specs wouldn't let the animation turn Mr Dark into all those hybrids. But then there's this part that you fail to explain: The angles.
sergiomonty wrote:Why does that happen? why can't he simply go up and then go down in a different form? why does Mr Dark go up and suddenly appear on the right with a different form? Sure, if you use your imagination, he could have teleported, but guess what? the first time you see it, you couldn't tell! And there's no written document that confirms that Mr Dark was that guy! It's just a theory!
sergiomonty wrote:I hope when you come back, you can explain me those random angles the monsters come from :wink:
Since you persist in your intensely idiotic fixation on "angles", I've taken the liberty of constructing a diagram. It is my hope that this will help you to grasp the basic concept of movement throughout a space.

Image
Behold the miracle of a guy moving around slightly.
sergiomonty wrote:What happened, Spiral? still sad because I totally destroyed your theory about the Mocking bird? :mryellow:
Your cringe-worthy gloating certainly puts to rest your denials that this is a personal issue you have with me – not that anyone who's been on this forum long would need evidence of this. (Since most people reading this will have no context: over a year ago, I mistakenly suggested that the giant bird boss fought in Hi-Ho Moskito and the giant bird boss fought in Grumbling Grottos were the same character.)
sergiomonty wrote:Also, what the fuck? Just because the monsters don't dance it's supposed to mean that they're not Mr Dark? what the hell?
Almost every boss in the game dances to signify that their defeat at the hands of Rayman has restored them to their natural benevolent state, and the fact that the two hybrids actively retreat and flee from battle respectively significantly discredits the idea that they are indeed incarnations of the bosses themselves, as was originally thought. This is one of the numerous arguments you have failed to address in any but the most inane way.
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Re: Rayman Origins

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The Rayman Wikia and Villain Wikia both say he can shift shapes, although Wikia isn't the greatest source of info out there...

I agree with Spiral. It it isn't Dark then what are they? His creations? Why didn't he just make more until Rayman's eventual defeat in that case?
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Re: Rayman Origins

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Keane wrote:Why didn't he just make more until Rayman's eventual defeat in that case?
I do wonder why he didn't just spam a massive legion of AntiRays or Dark Raymen or whathaveyous at him until they completely engulfed him. I guess that would make for a quite depressing final act of the game. ;)
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Re: Rayman Origins

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spiraldoor wrote:You discount animations despite the fact that the entire game is literally made of them.
:boon: I've never stated that or ANYTHING related to that. I LOVE animation in any of its forms, and I would never discount it from anything. Get your pieces together, man.
Image
Behold the miracle of a guy moving around slightly.
So, you're justifying that instead of making it the most visually explanatory transformation possible, the developers decided to move him to the right because of reasons?

Yeah.

Sure.

You probably thought that when you saw it the first time, right?

I mean, HOW WAS I SO BLIND? IT WAS OBVIOUS.

Oh my God.

THE DEVELOPERS WANTED MR DARK TO MOVE TO THE RIGHT OFF-SCREEN BECAUSE... WELL... BECAUSE YES!

EVERYONE WOULD BELIEVE THAT HE TRANSFORMED EVEN WHEN THEIR LIMITED HARDWARE WAS NOT CAPABLE OF THAT! yeah... just move him to the right off-screen.

This is pure genius my friends. Not.

Are you aware that you're still doing speculation?

You know what we need right now? an official developer who explains us the truth. So far, the theory is bogus, and I'll still call it bogus until we find an official source that demonstrates that Mr Dark is a shape-shifter.
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Re: Rayman Origins

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I tried to boon this but even the boon didn't want anything to do with this, so here's a dango. :dango:
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Re: Rayman Origins

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I like raymans personality in orgins be cause he acts dumb and how come the only 2 lanuge opitons are britsh english and french i think :mefiant:
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Re: Rayman Origins

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Raykid wrote:I like raymans personality in orgins be cause he acts dumb and how come the only 2 lanuge opitons are britsh english and french i think :mefiant:
Welcome to forums Raykid, if you want to introduce yourself, go here viewtopic.php?t=1616&start=11440
As for what you said, Rayman isn't exactly stupid in Origins. He was going to be back when it was a prequel, but that was scrapped.
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Raykid wrote:I like raymans personality in orgins be cause he acts dumb and how come the only 2 lanuge opitons are britsh english and french i think :mefiant:
He isn't dumb, he is only focusing on what he has to do while having fun. Also, welcome to the forums. :D
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Re: Rayman Origins

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Raykid wrote:I like raymans personality in orgins be cause he acts dumb and how come the only 2 lanuge opitons are britsh english and french i think :mefiant:
D'aww, it's a Raykid! :3 hi little thing. Welcome to RPC n_n

Sadly, the only options are english and french because Rayman's place of origin is France AND english is our universal language. British or not, it is still english!

Enjoy the forums and don't do or say silly stuff :mryellow:
ZeptoRay wrote:
Raykid wrote:I like raymans personality in orgins be cause he acts dumb and how come the only 2 lanuge opitons are britsh english and french i think :mefiant:
He isn't dumb, he is only focusing on what he has to do while having fun. Also, welcome to the forums. :D
Yup, as Michel once said :mryellow:
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Re: Rayman Origins

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Why are people taking the shape-shifter Mr Dark thing so seriously?
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Re: Rayman Origins

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sergiomonty wrote:
Raykid wrote:I like raymans personality in orgins be cause he acts dumb and how come the only 2 lanuge opitons are britsh english and french i think :mefiant:
D'aww, it's a Raykid! :3 hi little thing. Welcome to RPC n_n

Sadly, the only options are english and french because Rayman's place of origin is France AND english is our universal language. British or not, it is still english!

Enjoy the forums and don't do or say silly stuff :mryellow:
This is the cutest I've ever seen you Sergio. :mrgreen:
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Re: Rayman Origins

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Keane wrote:
sergiomonty wrote:
Raykid wrote:I like raymans personality in orgins be cause he acts dumb and how come the only 2 lanuge opitons are britsh english and french i think :mefiant:
D'aww, it's a Raykid! :3 hi little thing. Welcome to RPC n_n

Sadly, the only options are english and french because Rayman's place of origin is France AND english is our universal language. British or not, it is still english!

Enjoy the forums and don't do or say silly stuff :mryellow:
This is the cutest I've ever seen you Sergio. :mrgreen:
:roll: considering how we were about to get into yet another forum war over something as silly as the final boss of rayman1 in the Origins thread?
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Naw, Sergio is just an adorable guy.
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Re: Rayman Origins

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THEdragon wrote:Why are people taking the shape-shifter Mr Dark thing so seriously?
Well... given the situation, and that nobody seems to want to make more research on the situation. I'll just give up on this one.

It's a theory still far from being proven, but I guess the majority believes in it, so let's leave it as "Mr Dark could be a shape-shifter".
Keane wrote:Naw, Sergio is just an adorable guy.
:'D
dartofthedavros wrote: :roll: considering how we were about to get into yet another forum war over something as silly as the final boss of rayman1 in the Origins thread?
Hm. Not really, it was a normal debate. Though I must say, spiraldoor threw the first stone this time. For some reason he took it too personal. I tried really hard to not sound insulting to him at any moment, to the point of even calling him "pal", but I guess it was worthless. Maybe he is in reality Mr Dark, as I once stated, and he feels insulted when I misjudge his true power.
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Re: Rayman Origins

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All this debate over something so little.
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Bradandez wrote:All this debate over something so little.
Truth is truth, no matter how minute the topic at hand is, and it should be salvaged all the same.

The reason why Sergio failed the debate is because he's attempting to disprove a concept simply because he finds it 'ridiculous' with no evidence of any kind to support himself. On the other hand, while there isn't any confirmation of Spiral's argument, there is evidence that largely suggests that he's right.
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Re: Rayman Origins

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I kinda agree with Spiral on this one :|
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Re: Rayman Origins

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I don't mind either theory though. Maybe Mister Dark did flee but maybe he didn't, though none of us really know. It's up to the player.
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Re: Rayman Origins

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Bradandez wrote:I don't mind either theory though. Maybe Mister Dark did flee but maybe he didn't, though none of us really know. It's up to the player.
I agree with this!
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