I don't think I want to be part of this forum anymore

[rolesfamily]

So this all started in the Off Topic thread.

Serza posted a video, it had a title to do with Anime, and I know nothing about anime. So naturally I didn't look at the video. If the thread had purely been about the video I would have watched. I posted afterwards asking a question which wasn't related to Serza's video.

Serza replied:

'If you were going to post anything it could've at least been about what I just posted. '

I apologized and explained how I didn't know anything about anime.

Serza replied:

'That has nothing to do with commenting on the video. Could you please attempt to use the brain cells in your head other than the ones in your ballsack?'

^That doesn't make sense. It's an Off Topic thread, therefore I can speak about things which are Off Topic as long as they are within the rules. If the thread had been about the video which Serza had posted and I posted something unrelated I'd understand what Serza was saying.

Adsolution then said:

'Then don't comment if you have nothing to say. You're way too hyper, and probably only around a third of your five hundred posts serve any purpose whatsoever.'

Again, the thread is an Off Topic thread so therefore I don't have to directly reply to the post above me. The comment about approx a third of my posts are pointless. I'd say that's not a fair comment considering a lot of my posts are in the games threads. So therefore you're technically saying that games threads posts are pointless which actually applies to a lot of members here who frequently post in them. I'm all for games threads.

I then went into the IRC to see if anyone was online so I could try and talk this situation out further.

'Adsolution - No. Those thousands of pages in the games thread are mostly built out of reasonable discussion. At least half of your posts consist of things like "SUP MAHTATFUCKAAA" and "ZOMG PPP thats so cool" or other things that mean virtually nothing.'

That's funny how Adsolution has said that the thousands of pages of the games threads are built out of discussion. So the this or that, and word to word thread is a reasonable discussion? I posted one post that was like 'HEY GUIZIZIZIZ' and Adsolution amused all my other posts are like that, which they are not.

'Adsolution - As a long-time member of this community and moderator, I have the ability to tell when people are being annoyed. I'm sorry to say, but you are quite annoying, and most people will agree. Clearly you can't argue with the fact that you're doing something wrong if most people find you to be annoying?'

I'd like to point out that this is a forum. What happens on forums? People have conversations and discuss things. I contribute plenty of things ,not all of them especially deep and meaningful but they are always on topic and add or promote a discussion.

'Adsolution - But you have done something wrong, that's what we're trying to tell you. Instead of trying to find out more, you're getting pissed off and berating the people who know this community and the internet forum culture itself far, far beter than you do.'

This is an outrageous claim to make. Absolution doesn't even know me, so how can he make a statement like that? He might know more then me about forum culture, or I might know more about it then he does! None of us can make that statement because we both don't know each other!

I was then banned from the chat.

'Serza logic, where is it
Adsolution Can I please deduct tings from Roles?
Serza No yet
Adsolution Not even 200? '

I think it's pretty revolting that the mods would even consider a punishment for this.

Let me summarize my feelings.

I really do love & admire this forum. The original RZ forum was a big part of my life (which sounds sad) but I made a lot of friends there and spent a lot of time there when I was younger. I was so happy to find somewhere which still had the spirit of the old RZ (this place). This site is great, the way you've got the ranks system, the Rayman 3 scores etc. - I was so excited to be a part of a Rayman community again, you all seemed super friendly in the welcome thread.

I was hoping to find a lot of the old RZ members here, it seems like they've left this place a while ago. The reality is I feel a lot of us aren't on the same page. We're clashing, and we just don't get each other. It's a real shame, because I really wanted to be a big part of this place. I think it's sad how a new member is treated. Surely someone who is active, friendly, with a lot of potential should be treated better then that.

I really don't agree or understand a lot of your guys views here on contribution and attitude to members. I find this place sometimes incredibly formal, or sometimes incredibly vulgar. Both I can deal with, but I don't know where I stand. I thought this place was really cool, swearing mods, care free attitudes, a really cool relaxed place. I think our ideas totally clash.

I don't feel I've been treated fairly, or with my tolerance. I feel you guys are in a bubble and I'm on the outside. I don't think I'm the right sort of person for this community. As I said , it's a real shame because I was really starting to think I was making bonds with people here and I was having fun chatting to people.

But I won't stay somewhere that makes me feel like that. Because the reality is we're never going to see eye-to-eye. I'm going to be replying to this thread, because I want to be able to address peoples viewpoints on this.

Thanks

oh and just a quick edit! - I never did properly explain my username here, I may as well since I'll probably forget. A family friend setup my original RZ account under the name 'rolesfamily' when I was a kid (10 at the time) I used to love Rolls Royce cars. I used to always say how I'd want to have several and have my own 'family' of Rolls Royces haha. Too bad that family friend thought it was spelled 'roles', but it stuck so I kept it. I think it's pretty funny anyway.

There's a little bit of pointless trivia for ya

[Adsolution]

I like how you left out the whole part about where you went absolutely bat-shit crazy on the IRC. For the sake of being fair, here's the entire log of the conversation:

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<Master> https://raymanpc.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=845317#p845317
* Trollandia thinks that link has a weird title: Rayman Pirate-Community " View topic - Off Topic
<Master> Nothing to say to me, but plenty to say to you two
* rolesfamily ([email protected]) has joined
<Serza> *cracks knuckles the echidna*
<Serza> *then hand knuckles*
<rolesfamily> what's with the OT thread?
<Serza> just you wait
<rolesfamily> ?
<Serza> I'm replying to that puke of a post you made
<rolesfamily> why is that a puke of a post
<rolesfamily> surely it's accurate
<Serza> just wait til I reply to iy
<Serza> *it
<rolesfamily> it's laughable to be criticized for posting too much 
<rolesfamily> no problem
<rolesfamily> but you haven't been very tolerant at all
<rolesfamily> that's the way of forums, not everyone replies to what you put
<Adsolution> lolwtf
<rolesfamily> and the thread wasn't solely to do with your video
<rolesfamily> and adsolution, seriously dude, what's with saying that about my posting?
<rolesfamily> when the majority of people do that there
<Adsolution> Roles, Roles, Roles...
<rolesfamily> 10x harder
<Adsolution> No, they don't.
<rolesfamily> oh right..
<Adsolution> The majority of people do what here?
<rolesfamily> so all those thousands of pages on the games thread
<rolesfamily> have meaningless game threads posts!
<rolesfamily> you're telling 3/4 of mine are like that!
<rolesfamily> what about people with like 14k posts who post a tonne in the games threads!
<rolesfamily> it's laughable
<Adsolution> No. Those thousands of pages in the games thread are mostly built out of reasonable discussion. At least half of your posts consist of things like "SUP MAHTATFUCKAAA" and "ZOMG :P :P:PPPP thats so cool" or other things that mean virtually nothing.
<rolesfamily> oh yeah
<rolesfamily> totally
<rolesfamily> so the games threads have discussions in?
<Adsolution> Well, yes...?
<rolesfamily> yeah real hardcore discussions in the this or that thread man!
<rolesfamily> SO HARDCORE MAN
<rolesfamily> that's bullshit anyway
<rolesfamily> you've hardly read my post
<Adsolution> I'm confused as to what you're trying to say.
<rolesfamily> most of mine initiate conversation
<rolesfamily> which is what a forum is all about
<rolesfamily> talking
<rolesfamily> with others
<rolesfamily> so as a mod and a part of the community you shoul;d be glad that there is a new active member making discussions etc
<rolesfamily> and what i'm saying is that it's stupid to say a lot of my posts are pointless when a large majority of members posts there are from games threads which are pointless replies
<rolesfamily> so say that to them too!
<rolesfamily> and i'm sure your 16k posts aren't all wonderful!
<Adsolution> As a long-time member of this community and moderator, I have the ability to tell when people are being annoyed. I'm sorry to say, but you are quite annoying, and most people will agree. Clearly you can't argue with the fact that you're doing something wrong if most people find you to be annoying?
<rolesfamily> people are being annoyed by my posts?
<rolesfamily> then a lot of people are easily annoyed!
<rolesfamily> a lot of it is just conversation
<rolesfamily> which is what a forum is
<rolesfamily> for a so called friendly community this isn't very friendly
<Adsolution> Hm, how would be a better way to put this...
<Neko> The problem isn't the community. The problem is you.
<Adsolution> :)
<Adsolution> :(
<Serza> https://raymanpc.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=845319#p845319 I eventually replied after being ninjad by Zepto
* Trollandia thinks that link has a weird title: Rayman Pirate-Community " View topic - Off Topic
<Serza> You can see the point where I just about gave up on your bullshit
<rolesfamily> replied
<Adsolution> For one, can you not be so defensive? I'd simply like to see your posts be more constructive. Your 'conversation initiation' posts are quite literally posts that do not relate to the previous one. The conversaionts you seem to strive to start have little substance or value. Serza, for instance, posted a video that could start a reasonable discussion. You decide to, isntead of watching the video,  start a conversation that  holds 1/2
<Adsolution> 00th the value.
<rolesfamily> you guys obviously haven't been on many forums then :o
<rolesfamily> i seriously thoguht we were all gonna get along :S
<rolesfamily> you guys are the fuckin' problem!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
<Adsolution> Roles, can you calm down for half a second?
<Serza> I know I know I was just really annoyed :S
<Adsolution> It's impossible to have a legitimate conversation with you if you aren't willing to actually be calm about this.
<rolesfamily> i am bloody defensive, because you're making so many bullshit accusations. it's supposed to be a nice community and you lot are totally slating a new active member. who pretty much has done NOTHING wrong. It's a conversation, not all of them have to be super deep!¬ 
<rolesfamily> i will be calm
<rolesfamily> but i feel it's falling on deaf ears
<Adsolution> But you have done something wrong, that's what we're trying to tell you. Instead of trying to find out more, you're getting pissed off and berating the people who know this community and internet forum culture itself far, far better than you do.
<rolesfamily> and serza i know what it's like to have stuff ignored in a thread! it sucks! i didn't do it to be spiteful, i just knew i didn't know anything about anime so i didn't watch it! the title suggested that to me!
<rolesfamily> ahahahhahahaha who know the internet better then me?! how  can you gauge that when you don't even know me? that's a pretty bold statement
<Serza> I didn't mean to imply that I was bothered by you not replying
<rolesfamily> sure you know the pirate community more then me
<rolesfamily> but to say the internet is a bold statement 
<rolesfamily> ah
<rolesfamily> internet forum culture
<Adsolution> I said 'internet forum culture'.
<rolesfamily> well that's not true either
<rolesfamily> yeah
<rolesfamily> you can't gauge that either
<Serza> But your lack of providing anything contructive after that
<rolesfamily> i was on the original RZ when i was like 10!
<rolesfamily> and i've used forums ever since
<rolesfamily> i've even had to lay down what a basic thread is in the OT topic because somewhere along the line it's been distorted
<Adsolution> RZ, to be fair, was an absolute ess.
<Adsolution> *mess
<rolesfamily> I'm not basing my whole knowledge of forum culture from that, i'm just trying to demonstrate that i've spent many years on forums
<rolesfamily> and i can't say i know more about forums then you do
<rolesfamily> because i have no idea about you
<rolesfamily> but you can't say the same thing about me either
<Serza> Can I just say something though
<rolesfamily> ofc
<Serza> You have talked about how people apparently spam threads. Why then, did you feel that it was appropiate for you to follow suit as a result of that?
<stacey> whoa what did I just go back upstairs to
<rolesfamily> because i don't have a problem with people doing that. i don't think it matters, i think it adds to a good forum culture of people interacting in the games threads. adsolution was the one who said that, which basically slated most of the members there
<rolesfamily> i've never had the problem!
<rolesfamily> i've just got a problem with being rubbished and having different rules apply to me
<rolesfamily> and adsolution has an absolutely crap gauge on my posts after seeing me doing one 'YEAH ALL CAPZ GUIZZ' post he assumes all my posts are like that
<rolesfamily> well dude, if you know forums so well you know you can search through my freakin' posts!!!!!!!!
<Adsolution> RaymanPC is ruled by common sense. We do not have a strictly defined set of rules, but we expect you to use said common sense to socialise well with other members. Respect boundaries, partake in preexisting discussions instead of saying whatever you want with no regard for anyone else, etc. RPC is a forum, not an IM  room. While not every post has to be a paragraph, I would highly suggest going over your posts and taking a look to s
<Adsolution> ee which of your posts have ->added<- to discussion, which of your posts have actually initated ->good<- discussion, and which of your posts have helped, or made an even small difference in someone's life for the better.
<rolesfamily> It's a pretty lax forum. the rules are pretty lax and so is the posting style. it's got a casual feel to it, and that's the way i've been operating
<rolesfamily> it's a chill-out site
<rolesfamily> otherwise it would be operated differently 
<rolesfamily> games threads wouldn't count as posts
<rolesfamily> no swearing
<rolesfamily> etc
<rolesfamily> so i'm getting the feeling now that this is a forum that isn't lax, but only lax when it suits the right people
<rolesfamily> and that's a shame because i was looking forward to being a part of this community
<rolesfamily> i've done nothing but be nice
<Adsolution> Why is it that you keep referring to the Games threads? I'm really not following the comparison there, can you explain that?
<rolesfamily> because you're saying i post a lot of things which don't have meaning
<rolesfamily> i post in a lot of games threads
<rolesfamily> therefore those posts don't have meaning
<rolesfamily> the majority of members post A LOT in the games threads
<rolesfamily> so their posts don't jhave meanings either
<rolesfamily> so say that to the rest of them!
<Adsolution> That doesn't make any sense.
<rolesfamily> it dos
<rolesfamily> does
<Serza> It doesn't
<rolesfamily> well i'm not sure how we're going to sort this
<rolesfamily> because i'm almost at the point of going 
<rolesfamily> and that's a shame
<Serza> You're saying that because some of your posts are in the game threads that everything in the game threads is spam
<rolesfamily> yeah they are spam
<rolesfamily> games threads are spam
<Adsolution> Logic what
<Serza> Exactly how are they spam?
<rolesfamily> that's why places like proboards support has games threads but you don't get any posts
<rolesfamily> they are spam
<rolesfamily> they're usually a few word replies
<Serza> EXPLAIN
<rolesfamily> not  a topic of conversation
<rolesfamily> because they're not an actual topic!
<rolesfamily> or discussion!
<rolesfamily> they're just
<rolesfamily> YEAH THE SKY IS GREY TODAY
<rolesfamily> they're hollow
<rolesfamily> and i think they're freakin' cool and i'm all for games threads
<rolesfamily> you guys haven't been very fair to me tbh
<Serza> Show me an example of a thread on our forum that is exactly how you described it
<rolesfamily> this or that
<rolesfamily> word to word
<rolesfamily> etc
<rolesfamily> etc
<rolesfamily> etc
<rolesfamily> etc
<Adsolution> A lot of your posts do not have meaning, that is what I said., regardless of where you post. What you post has absolutely no bearing on the quality of other's posts, and the same goes for posts within individual threads. How could you think otherwise?
<rolesfamily> is this how you treat all new active friendly members>? 
<Adsolution> Take this hypothetically for the sake of logic.
<Adsolution> How would,, if you were to hypothetically spam a thread, this spam somehow turn others' posts into spam? Can you explain the logic behind that?
<rolesfamily> because i'm talking about games threads
<rolesfamily> which are spam posts
<Adsolution> wut
<rolesfamily> and a lot of mmebers on the pirate community post in the games threads
<rolesfamily> oh cmon
<rolesfamily> look i dont think i want to be a part of this anymore
<rolesfamily> i dont like the way you're treating me
<rolesfamily> or the way the site operates
<rolesfamily> not as friendly as you guys make it out to be.
<rolesfamily> 0 tolerance
<Neko> It's not fucking difficult to look at other highly regarded members, and take their example as how to behave properly.
<rolesfamily> nice little cliques 
<rolesfamily> oh yeah
<rolesfamily> TOTALLY
<rolesfamily> that's a tonne of cra
<rolesfamily> p
<rolesfamily> my posts contrivbute to the thread
<rolesfamily> etc etc etc
<rolesfamily> no different from anyone elses
<rolesfamily> maybe a few lines short
<rolesfamily> that's it
<Adsolution> I'm being perfectly calm, I'm simply trying to ask you a question, yet pretty much all you've been doing this whole time is complaining about how unfriendly we are and berating us over our supposed 'intolerance'. Can you stfu for a second?
<rolesfamily> i gotta brb for a bit but yeah i'll be back
* Neko sets ban on *!*@C0C83ADD.EC66EDDF.D8B39AB.IP

Before anyone responds, read the entire log, and make of it what you will.

[rolesfamily]

Yeah I was annoyed at what had been said. I've addressed my 'calm' replies in the OP. My points still stand, anything I've said in the chat is portrayed in the OP.

[Adsolution]

In that case, I will respond to a couple things:

Again, the thread is an Off Topic thread so therefore I don't have to directly reply to the post above me.

Complete misinterpretation as to the purpose of the thread. The Off Topic thread is to post things which don't belong to any of the specific threads already made, and which don't warrant a new thread being created for them. That doesn't mean that you shouldn't treat it like a thread and give an appropriate response to what's being posted, or post something useful as the start of a new conversation. This:

How's MUTTHAA FUKKKIN SCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTTEEELAND??

-is not a useful way to start a new conversation, especially in light of the fact that Serza was waiting for a response to the video she posted.

The comment about approx a third of my posts are pointless. I'd say that's not a fair comment considering a lot of my posts are in the games threads. So therefore you're technically saying that games threads posts are pointless which actually applies to a lot of members here who frequently post in them. I'm all for games threads. (...) That's funny how Adsolution has said that the thousands of pages of the games threads are built out of discussion. So the this or that, and word to word thread is a reasonable discussion?

Lol, this makes absolutely no sense whatsoever and defies all Logic. I'd advise everyone who reads this to also read the IRC log, where he was asked to explain his constant reference to the Games threads, at which point he actually somehow managed to make even less sense through doing so.

I then went into the IRC to see if anyone was online so I could try and talk this situation out further.

Which, according to the log, especially toward the end, consisted of you not listening to anything anyone was saying and filling up entire log-pages of complaints about the same things over and over again.

I posted one post that was like 'HEY GUIZIZIZIZ' and Adsolution amused all my other posts are like that, which they are not.

According to you, I didn't, actually:

The comment about approx a third of my posts are pointless.

I contribute plenty of things ,(...) but they are always on topic and add or promote a discussion.

I'd re-assess the vast majority of your posts if I were you.

The comment about approx a third of my posts are pointless.This is an outrageous claim to make. Absolution doesn't even know me, so how can he make a statement like that?

I know you based off of your presence on this forum which, to say the least, hasn't exactly been qualitative, at least in my opinion.

<Adsolution> Can I please deduct tings from Roles? (:
<Serza> No yet
<Adsolution> Not even 200? ):

I think it's pretty revolting that the mods would even consider a punishment for this.

I'd like to apologise and point out that this was a joke referencing to a deduction error I made with another member in the past, not in seriousness, as I wasn't aware you could still see the chat after you were banned. No one is going to punish you on the forum for something you did on the IRC.

I don't feel I've been treated fairly, or with my tolerance. I feel you guys are in a bubble and I'm on the outside. I don't think I'm the right sort of person for this community. As I said , it's a real shame because I was really starting to think I was making bonds with people here and I was having fun chatting to people.

You came from RaymanZone, probably one of the trashiest forums on the internet. RaymanPC is a great forum, but it clearly will take some getting used to for you!

[Zikken]

^That doesn't make sense. It's an Off Topic thread, therefore I can speak about things which are Off Topic as long as they are within the rules. If the thread had been about the video which Serza had posted and I posted something unrelated I'd understand what Serza was saying.

Sorry but how does this make sense though? -

How's MUTTHAA FUKKKIN SCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTTEEELAND??

Irrelevant and wont start a conversation, its also disrespectful for Serza who was waiting a reply on her post.

Again, the thread is an Off Topic thread so therefore I don't have to directly reply to the post above me. The comment about approx a third of my posts are pointless. I'd say that's not a fair comment considering a lot of my posts are in the games threads. So therefore you're technically saying that games threads posts are pointless which actually applies to a lot of members here who frequently post in them. I'm all for games threads.

Ad meant comments like the one I quoted above. Also, Off Topic is not there to shout all the random crap you want. Its there to talk about things that doesn't deserve its own topic, like a video for example, or you're getting a little sister, etc. And the last part of what I quoted made absolutely no sense.

I then went into the IRC to see if anyone was online so I could try and talk this situation out further.

'Adsolution - No. Those thousands of pages in the games thread are mostly built out of reasonable discussion. At least half of your posts consist of things like "SUP MAHTATFUCKAAA" and "ZOMG PPP thats so cool" or other things that mean virtually nothing.'

That's funny how Adsolution has said that the thousands of pages of the games threads are built out of discussion. So the this or that, and word to word thread is a reasonable discussion? I posted one post that was like 'HEY GUIZIZIZIZ' and Adsolution amused all my other posts are like that, which they are not.

You posted more than one as far as I know and did he said all your post? No, he did not, he said a third of them. Also " this or that" " word to word" and other topics of the kind are called "Forum Games" you will see those often in many forums.

I'd like to point out that this is a forum. What happens on forums? People have conversations and discuss things. I contribute plenty of things ,not all of them especially deep and meaningful but they are always on topic and add or promote a discussion.

This forum is different than the others, didn't you noticed when you first joined? Also a bunch of stuff you said didn't really contribute to anything.

This is an outrageous claim to make. Absolution doesn't even know me, so how can he make a statement like that? He might know more then me about forum culture, or I might know more about it then he does! None of us can make that statement because we both don't know each other!

You're arguing for nothing. There is no need to know someone to make such statement if its what is actually happening and visible.

I think it's pretty revolting that the mods would even consider a punishment for this.

Jokes, ever heard of them.

I was hoping to find a lot of the old RZ members here, it seems like they've left this place a while ago. The reality is I feel a lot of us aren't on the same page. We're clashing, and we just don't get each other. It's a real shame, because I really wanted to be a big part of this place. I think it's sad how a new member is treated. Surely someone who is active, friendly, with a lot of potential should be treated better then that.

What do you mean by"not on the same page"? New members are treated nicely, this is the most welcoming WEBSITE I have ever been on. If you're having a bad time here don't you think you're doing something wrong? I have never been treated badly here. Also this is not RZ, RZ was messed up.

I don't feel I've been treated fairly, or with my tolerance. I feel you guys are in a bubble and I'm on the outside. I don't think I'm the right sort of person for this community. As I said , it's a real shame because I was really starting to think I was making bonds with people here and I was having fun chatting to people.

Have you tried to not type "hyper" things? I find people being hyper like that a bit annoying because I can't keep up with them, its just too much of randomness.

*IRC Chat*

What the fuck Roles.

<rolesfamily> that's why places like proboards support has games threads but you don't get any posts
<rolesfamily> they are spam

Are not. Forums like this block the posts because they are in Off Topics and usually the off topics in those forums are forum games only, which is not the case here. I am on two other forums: Primal Carnage and FlightRising, yet games topics still gives posts? Also proboards are shit cheap forums that works all the same.

You seem to keep complaining on how "unfriendly" we are yet you're being extremely defensive for no good reasons, being annoying with posts that can't even hold a conversation with, completely unrelated to the post right above yours. I don't know what kind of other forums you frequent but they must be kind of shit if no one gives a crap about the post right above. People here are the most friendly persons I have ever seen other than my current friends but you fail to see this because you're stuck up with your defensive state.

[Keane]

Also, Off Topic is not there to shout all the random crap you want. Its there to talk about things that doesn't deserve its own topic, like a video for example, or you're getting a little sister, etc.

Another good example is this thread.

I then went into the IRC to see if anyone was online so I could try and talk this situation out further.

Oh boy.

'Adsolution - No. Those thousands of pages in the games thread are mostly built out of reasonable discussion. At least half of your posts consist of things like "SUP MAHTATFUCKAAA" and "ZOMG PPP thats so cool" or other things that mean virtually nothing.'

Because we're fucking friends. We don't just come here to specifically talk about Rayman. We do have threads for Rayman, and more often then not they are about Rayman, and if they go off topic then who cares?

I was hoping to find a lot of the old RZ members here, it seems like they've left this place a while ago. The reality is I feel a lot of us aren't on the same page. We're clashing, and we just don't get each other. It's a real shame, because I really wanted to be a big part of this place. I think it's sad how a new member is treated. Surely someone who is active, friendly, with a lot of potential should be treated better then that.

RZ started to die in 2003. It's 2013. That there are still people around today who have seen that site's old design without the wayback machine is a miracle.

I've been part of a Minecraft forum for two years and I know exactly what is the difference between here and there: We know each other. I know who will appreciate certain jokes and who doesn't, I know what people like and don't like, I know (to an extent) what goes on in their life, how they feel about things, what they struggle with, what they enjoy doing, what they prefer over other things, who is more active then others. I'm willing to say that I know the majority of RPC better then my friend in real life. On that Minecraft forum I know very little about people I've been talking to since November 2011. I really, really doubt there are a lot other gaming forums out there with a community like RPC that is willing to openly express themselves like they do here. If I say something personal (Not even sad stuff or whatever) they'll think it's awkward and in some cases it even gets deleted for being off-topic. The reason why we sometimes call each other ourt for something is because we've known each other for one, two, three, five, ten years? We know that if someone disagrees they're not just being a jerk on the web. Though the time you spend here doesn't mean much. Zeppy's been around I think nearly four months now and she knows we're not being hostile or overly angry. Here you get actual strong opinions. On other sites you'll get "SONIC ADVENTURE 2 IS THE BEST GAME EVER MADE AND IF YOU DISAGREE THEN YOU ARE A POOP BLUURUURURUR"

And, you know, you could have just watched the video or ignored it.

[Zikken]

I really, really doubt there are a lot other gaming forums out there with a community like RPC that is willing to openly express themselves like they do here.

The Primal Carnage forum is pretty close due to the game being community driven and the hilarious and fun dev team but not as open as here.

Zeppy's been around I think nearly four months now and she knows we're not being hostile or overly angry.

Its been three months since two-three days.
It took me three weeks to get used to everyone here since I felt "intimidated" by the mods and admin because I was used to shitty moderators on other forums and because I was shy. But I never had a bad time here and certainly don't feel that way anymore.

Here you get actual strong opinions. On other sites you'll get "SONIC ADVENTURE 2 IS THE BEST GAME EVER MADE AND IF YOU DISAGREE THEN YOU ARE A POOP BLUURUURURUR"

I'm glad I didn't get to see these kinds of forums then.

[Keane]

EDIT: Just look how quickly the topic can be changed and how there is never a need to dedicate a thread to an argument vvv

The Primal Carnage forum is pretty close due to the game being community driven and the hilarious and fun dev team but not as open as here.

Aye, that's the same thing with good side of the Minecraft fandom. Cool people to talk with and certainly enough of a reason to keep coming back, but I don't really know much about who they are.

Its been three months since two-three days.
It took me three weeks to get used to everyone here since I felt "intimidated" by the mods and admin because I was used to shitty moderators on other forums and because I was shy. But I never had a bad time here and certainly don't feel that way anymore.

Huh. Feels like you've been here forever. Well I'm glad you're still here. o3o

I'm glad I didn't get to see these kinds of forums then.

Haha well I'm exaggerating a little but a big difference is that so many places don't have any good reason to defend something. I'm willing to believe that we here have some people who hugely love Rayman 2 and will defend it for that reason but whether you agree or not there's no denying that people have good reasons for liking it and not just "This game/movie/album is the best because it is". And that together with the extremely quick hate is why I'm not really active on many forums anymore. Too many people insulting over nonsense.

[rolesfamily]

Somethings messed up I've lost my replies to Adsolution...

False alarm here it is!

I posted one post that was like 'HEY GUIZIZIZIZ' and Adsolution amused all my other posts are like that, which they are not.

According to you, I didn't, actually:

The comment about approx a third of my posts are pointless.

<Adsolution> Can I please deduct tings from Roles? (:
<Serza> No yet
<Adsolution> Not even 200? ):

I think it's pretty revolting that the mods would even consider a punishment for this.

I'd like to apologise and point out that this was a joke referencing to a deduction error I made with another member in the past, not in seriousness, as I wasn't aware you could still see the chat after you were banned. No one is going to punish you on the forum for something you did on the IRC.

I don't feel I've been treated fairly, or with my tolerance. I feel you guys are in a bubble and I'm on the outside. I don't think I'm the right sort of person for this community. As I said , it's a real shame because I was really starting to think I was making bonds with people here and I was having fun chatting to people.

You came from RaymanZone, probably one of the trashiest forums on the internet. RaymanPC is a great forum, but it clearly will take some getting used to for you!

First of all don't be awkward. Just because I generalized and said 'all' my posts doesn't mean you have to pick me up and say 'Oh actually I said a third hurr hurr' - I get it, and I've said you've said a third before. That's just awkward.

Thank you for apologizing for the chat tings thing. That was another inside joke which I wasn't supposed to get. Which is fair enough you can't cater to everyone, but you have to see it from my perspective. Reading that wasn't nice!

^That doesn't make sense. It's an Off Topic thread, therefore I can speak about things which are Off Topic as long as they are within the rules. If the thread had been about the video which Serza had posted and I posted something unrelated I'd understand what Serza was saying.

Sorry but how does this make sense though? -

How's MUTTHAA FUKKKIN SCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTTEEELAND??

Irrelevant and wont start a conversation, its also disrespectful for Serza who was waiting a reply on her post.

Again, the thread is an Off Topic thread so therefore I don't have to directly reply to the post above me. The comment about approx a third of my posts are pointless. I'd say that's not a fair comment considering a lot of my posts are in the games threads. So therefore you're technically saying that games threads posts are pointless which actually applies to a lot of members here who frequently post in them. I'm all for games threads.

Ad meant comments like the one I quoted above. Also, Off Topic is not there to shout all the random crap you want. Its there to talk about things that doesn't deserve its own topic, like a video for example, or you're getting a little sister, etc. And the last part of what I quoted made absolutely no sense.

I then went into the IRC to see if anyone was online so I could try and talk this situation out further.

'Adsolution - No. Those thousands of pages in the games thread are mostly built out of reasonable discussion. At least half of your posts consist of things like "SUP MAHTATFUCKAAA" and "ZOMG PPP thats so cool" or other things that mean virtually nothing.'

This is an outrageous claim to make. Absolution doesn't even know me, so how can he make a statement like that? He might know more then me about forum culture, or I might know more about it then he does! None of us can make that statement because we both don't know each other!

You're arguing for nothing. There is no need to know someone to make such statement if its what is actually happening and visible.

I think it's pretty revolting that the mods would even consider a punishment for this.

Jokes, ever heard of them.

I don't feel I've been treated fairly, or with my tolerance. I feel you guys are in a bubble and I'm on the outside. I don't think I'm the right sort of person for this community. As I said , it's a real shame because I was really starting to think I was making bonds with people here and I was having fun chatting to people.

Have you tried to not type "hyper" things? I find people being hyper like that a bit annoying because I can't keep up with them, its just too much of randomness.

*IRC Chat*

What the fuck Roles.

<rolesfamily> that's why places like proboards support has games threads but you don't get any posts
<rolesfamily> they are spam

Are not. Forums like this block the posts because they are in Off Topics and usually the off topics in those forums are forum games only, which is not the case here. I am on two other forums: Primal Carnage and FlightRising, yet games topics still gives posts? Also proboards are shit cheap forums that works all the same.

You seem to keep complaining on how "unfriendly" we are yet you're being extremely defensive for no good reasons, being annoying with posts that can't even hold a conversation with, completely unrelated to the post right above yours. I don't know what kind of other forums you frequent but they must be kind of shit if no one gives a crap about the post right above. People here are the most friendly persons I have ever seen other than my current friends but you fail to see this because you're stuck up with your defensive state.

It was a general question said in a funny way. If that' disrespectful, then that's funny. I've explained the video thing countless times.

I agree the OT thread is for topics that don't warrant their own thread. Which is why I can say things in there that aren't directed at the post above me, do I need to keep saying this? Obviously it's not a shout random crap thread. There is middle ground, I asked Serza a question since I couldn't make a reply about her video, I asked her something else! Which if anything was polite, but a few of you here seem to not understand manners very much!

That's some bullshit you're saying there right there about Adsolution not having to know me just because he can see it happening on the forum. And considering you're supposed to be my FRIEND on this forum, you don't seem to give a shit that I'm even considering leaving. You're idea of being a friend is pretty shit. I've stuck up for you in topics I didn't even know what was happening, but I automatically took your side because I thought you were my friend. You can't make bold statements about people's knowledge of something unless you actually know them.

Oh yeah jokes ever heard of them?! Fuck you! - They've admitted above that it was an INSIDE JOKE, so how was I supposed to know that? Try doing this, it might be a bit difficult for you! - Think of it from my perspective and read that bit they wrote after I was kicked from that chat. It wasn't very nice.

If you can't handle 'hyper' (aka personality) then that's your problem not mine. It's not my fault you're dozy and half asleep, if you can't keep up then get out! This is why I can't stay here, because I can't connect with any of you people.

What are you what the fucking at IRC chat? But then again you are pretty dozy so I'm not sure why you're going to make sense...

Zepto you really disappoint me. I've been so good to you on here in my short period of being here. A million PM chats, advertising your DA page... I've been super nice, and you're like this when it comes to it! It's not nice at all!

[OCG]

Reading IRC chat, I came to conclusion that members like you give this forum a bad image. Learn to behave please. Nobody is hating you, Mods want to tell you mistakes so you can change on better. You know, I got ting deduction once because of bad joke. Do you think I started behaving like you and defending myself? No, I talked with Ad and asked nicely to explain me better what was wrong with my post. After Ad explained, I realized my mistake and everything was good.

[Adsolution]

We quickly reached a nice conclusion over a conundrum that showed up on the forum by simply talking about it once, and I also apologised for some of my language. OCG's a great guy; very open to possibility.

On the other hand, we have this:

First of all don't be awkward. Just because I generalized and said 'all' my posts doesn't mean you have to pick me up and say 'Oh actually I said a third hurr hurr' - I get it, and I've said you've said a third before. That's just awkward.

Not really. A 'third' is quite the equivalent to saying 'many' - it's a very sizable amount, not necessarily the majority, but it's much more emphasised than saying 'many'. Its implication differs immensely from that of of saying 'all'.

There is middle ground, I asked Serza a question since I couldn't make a reply about her video, I asked her something else! Which if anything was polite, but a few of you here seem to not understand manners very much!

You're trying to justify a poorly thought-out, overly hyper and eccentric post which you know is nothing more than just that. The only reason it bears mild importance to the situation is because it's what spawned this conflict, giving you reason to justify that which is unjustifiable by any rational means.

That's some bullshit you're saying there right there about Adsolution not having to know me just because he can see it happening on the forum.

It doesn't matter to me if you're a regular nice guy or a weird, sheltered, hypochondriac kid whose buddies anally rape you on a daily basis - I don't need your life story - reading the five hundred or so posts you've made and experiencing your complete inability to take any kind of criticism is enough for me to get a pretty solid idea as to your attitude around the forum.

And considering you're supposed to be my FRIEND on this forum, you don't seem to give a shit that I'm even considering leaving.

I'm not saying this for the sake of defending my or Zepto's position at all, merely as a response to this hypothetical moral dilemma:

You take kindness for granted, and you feel grossly entitled. Just because someone treats you with initial respect - it's common courtesy to do this with people you don't know - does not mean that they aren't allowed to garner their own opinion of you after you reveal some of your personality to them, for better or for worse.

I've stuck up for you in topics I didn't even know what was happening, but I automatically took your side because I thought you were my friend.

Are you sure you're nineteen? Because this is all the confirmation I needed to assure myself that you are actually a complete tool, and a legitimate, fucking asshole.

You're idea of being a friend is pretty shit.

Judging by what you said directly before this, I would beg to differ that your view on friendship is any better. In fact, your view on friendship is pretty shallow and twisted, comparable to that of a six-year-old's best-friend initiation, which usually comprises a lunch trade.

If you can't handle 'hyper' (aka personality) then that's your problem not mine. It's not my fault you're dozy and half asleep, if you can't keep up then get out!

Actually no, being 'hyper' is not a personality type, it's the state of being overly exuberant with little self-control. You can retain your personality whilst holding onto your humanity, you just seem to have little experience in doing so. Would it also be our problem if you liked to go around greeting people in a 'friendly manner' by punching them in the ribs every other second? Gee, I'm sorry I don't speak your lingo, Dingo, but my ribs really, really hurt.

This is why I can't stay here, because I can't connect with any of you people.

I'm sorry you had the misfortune of being raised by RaymanZone, I truly am. A part of me still wishes we could see eye-to-eye, but your origin story leaves me with little hope. /internet racism

Zepto you really disappoint me.

Whoa, so passive-aggressive.

I've been so good to you on here in my short period of being here. A million PM chats, advertising your DA page... I've been super nice, and you're like this when it comes to it! It's not nice at all!

Yeah fuck you too.


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People here are the most friendly persons I have ever seen other than my current friends but you fail to see this because you're stuck up with your defensive state.

This couldn't be more true. I had my fair share of unpleasant encounters with many long-timers here when I was new, and even though I was a total idiotic bitch at times, I considered everything being said. This website fits the solid definition of a community (hence the name) far more than it does a topical discussion board, and any packaged harshness is simply a result of caring and wanting to see troubled members improve. Unless you're made aware of such a thing, no progress will be made.


Look, you're fully welcome to be a great part of this community - I'm flattered by how you envision it -, the more the merrier, but if you want that to happen, don't act like a ten-year-old, or however old you were when you joined RZ. I totally understand the atmosphere you pine for, a great lodge and meeting place where you can share your experiences, submit your scores and slot right in. This is 100% the place for that, but also understand that this place has grown up, and it generally expects a higher qualitative standard of posting than it did even five years ago. You're free to be a cheerful fellow and show off your eccentricity by all means, but for the love of God, grow up.

[rolesfamily]

Reading IRC chat, I came to conclusion that members like you give this forum a bad image. Learn to behave please. Nobody is hating you, Mods want to tell you mistakes so you can change on better. You know, I got ting deduction once because of bad joke. Do you think I started behaving like you and defending myself? No, I talked with Ad and asked nicely to explain me better what was wrong with my post. After Ad explained, I realized my mistake and everything was good.

Have you read my OP?

There is middle ground, I asked Serza a question since I couldn't make a reply about her video, I asked her something else! Which if anything was polite, but a few of you here seem to not understand manners very much!

You're trying to justify a poorly thought-out, overly hyper and eccentric post which you know is nothing more than just that. The only reason it bears mild importance to the situation is because it's what spawned this conflict, giving you reason to justify that which is unjustifiable by any rational means.

This is why I can't stay here, because I can't connect with any of you people.

I'm sorry you had the misfortune of being raised by RaymanZone, I truly am. A part of me still wishes we could see eye-to-eye, but your origin story leaves me with little hope. /internet racism

Quote:

People here are the most friendly persons I have ever seen other than my current friends but you fail to see this because you're stuck up with your defensive state.

This couldn't be more true. I had my fair share of unpleasant encounters with many long-timers here when I was new, and even though I was a total idiotic bitch at times, I considered everything being said. This website fits the solid definition of a community (hence the name) far more than it does a topical discussion board, and any packaged harshness is simply a result of caring and wanting to see troubled members improve. Unless you're made aware of such a thing, no progress will be made.


Look, you're fully welcome to be a great part of this community - I'm flattered by how you envision it -, the more the merrier, but if you want that to happen, don't act like a ten-year-old, or however old you were when you joined RZ. I totally understand the atmosphere you pine for, a great lodge and meeting place where you can share your experiences, submit your scores and slot right in. This is 100% the place for that, but also understand that this place has grown up, and it generally expects a higher qualitative standard of posting than it did even five years ago. You're free to be a cheerful fellow and show off your eccentricity by all means, but for the love of God, grow up.

I still think you can justify that post. Serza's location is like FUCK YEAH SCOTLAND, so I was like HOW'S MUTTHAFUKAAA SCOOOOTTEELANDDD (scoooteeeland giving the accent) and the all caps to be like her location. It was well thought out! Serza should of replied : IT'S FUCKING GREAT

job done. But no!

Zepto wise she told that Incognito was being a pain to her, so I went and found the thread, had a quick read and then stood up for her in a manner of speaking. That was a nice thing of me to do. I've done nothing but post nice things on this forum, compliment the site etc and be nice to the members I've tried pretty hard to fit in around here!

I think this forum has a very confused feeling to it. On the one hand it's very professional with good quality posts, on the other it's incredibly vulgar with short conversation style posts. - Both styles I think are freakin' cool, but I'm confused which one I'm supposed to be like? I interpreted this site as a lax place where we can just post out loud pretty much. Obviously not spam, but just have a relaxed environment with a bit of structure.

Hahah I like that - 'raised by Rayman Zone' - that's pretty accurate.

I agree that my posting habits/style might not be appropriate for this forum. That's why earlier in this post I was saying how I'm confused about the general feel of this place. I'm getting very mixed messages on what's acceptable and what's not. - And maybe that comes with experience and time spent on this forum, which a lot of you have. I'd say this is a different sort of community that I'm used to. So I do appreciate that it's going to take some adjustments.

Thanks for being reasonable even after this, that's a good trait. Look I don't want to be mean to anyone here, but I feel like I've had to defend myself. It may of seemed like an over-reaction, but if these things aren't blown up they'll just drag on and nothing will change. At the end of the day I can tell the majority of people here are very reasonable, and I like to think of myself for the most part of being reasonable. Even though that might be hard to believe when I'm ranting, but that's just because I like this place a lot and I was looking forward to being a part of this place. So I think it's just a let-down on my part. I suppose I expected it to be too much like the old RZ, and I know a lot of you say it was a mess.

I just think that I've read this place incorrectly. I'm still not 100% sure on how one is expected to operate on here, it seems like one extreme to the next. So I chose the middle ground and I've still got it wrong somehow.

[Zikken]

Obviously it's not a shout random crap thread. There is middle ground, I asked Serza a question since I couldn't make a reply about her video, I asked her something else! Which if anything was polite, but a few of you here seem to not understand manners very much!

This:

How's MUTTHAA FUKKKIN SCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTTEEELAND??

Is polite? Wow. Sorry but I disagree.

And considering you're supposed to be my FRIEND on this forum, you don't seem to give a shit that I'm even considering leaving.

Who said I was your friend? I am "friendly" to everyone but I am not friend with everyone here. Also, if we can see Incognito being a problem with his illogical posts then why can't we see yours, explain?

You're idea of being a friend is pretty shit.

And is yours any better? I can't become friend with someone after just talking in PMs for a week. It took a whole month before I become friend with who is currently my best friend. I wasn't your friend in the first place, being a friend is being there for someone when they need it, have fun with, talk about random shit and sticking with them. I would explain my whole point of what is a friend to me but I just woke up and I don't wish to do that.

You can't make bold statements about people's knowledge of something unless you actually know them.

Okay take this: I keep posting this in the Off Topic thread with people talking about how a member of the forum has cancer: OH HoW BeAUTFIU L The S KY IS TODAY, HOW IS THE sK Y OVER THERE?
What do you think now? This is an exaggerated version of what you did before.

Fuck you!

Thanks.

They've admitted above that it was an INSIDE JOKE, so how was I supposed to know that? Try doing this, it might be a bit difficult for you! - Think of it from my perspective and read that bit they wrote after I was kicked from that chat. It wasn't very nice.

I would send one of them a PM saying that I can still read that chat and that I find that offensive from a Mod to do that and get to know the truth that is was a joke, not rant about it in the public. We're two different person, how would it be difficult for me?

If you can't handle 'hyper' (aka personality) then that's your problem not mine. It's not my fault you're dozy and half asleep, if you can't keep up then get out! This is why I can't stay here, because I can't connect with any of you people.

That is not what I meant, you can by 'hyper' all you want I'm okay with that. But get a hold of yourself Jesus Christ.
Get out where exactly?
You can stay here and connect with people here if you take the time to understand but if you seriously want to leave then, fine, not my choice.

What are you what the fucking at IRC chat? But then again you are pretty dozy so I'm not sure why you're going to make sense...

The whole chat itself. The hell do you mean by "dozy", I was wide awake like it was 3pm at that time, it was just 6 pm when I posted that comment.

Zepto you really disappoint me.

Oh?

I've been so good to you on here in my short period of being here. A million PM chats, advertising your DA page... I've been super nice, and you're like this when it comes to it! It's not nice at all!

Well, I'm sorry to announce you kindness does not equal being friends. Not nice? Sure, if you want, but you aren't being nice either by telling me to fuck off, saying my point of view of friend is shit when I don't have ANY friends in real life, how do you want me to be friend with you if you act like that.

I still think you can justify that post. Serza's location is like FUCK YEAH SCOTLAND, so I was like HOW'S MUTTHAFUKAAA SCOOOOTTEELANDDD (scoooteeeland giving the accent) and the all caps to be like her location. It was well thought out! Serza should of replied : IT'S FUCKING GREAT

If you asked me the same thing I would be annoyed.

Zepto wise she told that Incognito was being a pain to her, so I went and found the thread, had a quick read and then stood up for her in a manner of speaking. That was a nice thing of me to do. I've done nothing but post nice things on this forum, compliment the site etc and be nice to the members I've tried pretty hard to fit in around here!

Random comments like the Scotland thing is just annoying and don't lead anywhere.
How did you stood up for me though? He is only a pain because I care too much at trying to help him not post random illogical shit, he was terrible in the past but he is a bit better now. He got a terrible grammar yes, but I can't blame him if he speaks French, because in the French forums he is better than that.

I think this forum has a very confused feeling to it. On the one hand it's very professional with good quality posts, on the other it's incredibly vulgar with short conversation style posts. - Both styles I think are freakin' cool, but I'm confused which one I'm supposed to be like? I interpreted this site as a lax place where we can just post out loud pretty much. Obviously not spam, but just have a relaxed environment with a bit of structure.

Look at the past posts to see when its time to act stupid and immature, best time is record day for that though. There is no need to write huge posts either.

I agree that my posting habits/style might not be appropriate for this forum. That's why earlier in this post I was saying how I'm confused about the general feel of this place. I'm getting very mixed messages on what's acceptable and what's not. - And maybe that comes with experience and time spent on this forum, which a lot of you have. I'd say this is a different sort of community that I'm used to. So I do appreciate that it's going to take some adjustments.

This is more of a community than a forum really, most people will talk to each other unlike actual forums. In other forums you don't get half of the forum to come and welcome you on the introduction page like here.

Thanks for being reasonable even after this, that's a good trait. Look I don't want to be mean to anyone here, but I feel like I've had to defend myself. It may of seemed like an over-reaction, but if these things aren't blown up they'll just drag on and nothing will change. At the end of the day I can tell the majority of people here are very reasonable, and I like to think of myself for the most part of being reasonable. Even though that might be hard to believe when I'm ranting, but that's just because I like this place a lot and I was looking forward to being a part of this place. So I think it's just a let-down on my part. I suppose I expected it to be too much like the old RZ, and I know a lot of you say it was a mess.

I never was on RZ and I already can tell that the place was extremely different.

I just think that I've read this place incorrectly. I'm still not 100% sure on how one is expected to operate on here, it seems like one extreme to the next. So I chose the middle ground and I've still got it wrong somehow.

Its because unlike us, you don't look at the post above to reply to it but instead post something unrelated. I mean, if it was a big news or something like that would be understandable. You can also: reply to the post above, then post what you wanted to say in the same post, that's not hard to do at all.

[rolesfamily]

ZeptoRay: - I know we weren't exactly 'friends' but my point was that I thought we were starting to become friends on here. I know it's not a quick thing, I just thought over time and talking more we could be friends. I thought we had some nice chats over PM... I think that's why I'm reacting so badly to your posts just because I actually thought we had some kind of friendship going. So that's why I'm surprised to what you're saying.

I think you're being a bit extreme with your hypothetical OT example. I didn't ignore anything major in the thread. It was one video posted. No big deal to ignore it since it had no relevance to me. So what if the whole forum didn't know anything about anime, does that mean no-one can post in the OT thread because the last post was a video, so we HAVE to reply to it?

And I had to tell you to eff off because you were totally bitchy in your reply. JOKES EVER HEARD OF THEM? - When it was an obvious inside joke. It also made me react like that because of our so called 'friendship'.

If you would be annoyed by the question I asked Serza then you're very easily annoyed. It was written in that style because of her description. SHOUTY AND FOOKIN' SCOTTISH YEEEEE like that. It's funny, it's forums. Deal with it.

- To everyone, what's the end game here? What's the best course of action to resolve this?

[sonicbrawler182]

So I have not read this entire thread, but I did read the IRC log.

Both sides of this argument are in the wrong, in quite a few areas, but I think all I need to say is - think about what exactly you guys are arguing over. It doesn't deserve an argument this drawn out. If this was any other forum I've visited, heck, even the other forum I'm a member of, this would of ended long ago.

The best resolution would be to drop things here, and if you guys butt heads over things like this again, settle it privately if you guys really need to talk. Seriously, this is just pathetic that this is even being given such a long, drawn out argument (this is not an insult to either side, more the fact that I'm highlighting how the subject of the argument is very childish - and no, this does not single out rolesfamily just because they made this topic, because the argument was around before this topic. Both sides are arguing over something very childish, and are making equally childish arguments).

And before I get the "you're not a mod so you don't have a say" comment: shush - I don't need to be a mod to point this kind of crap out, and know an asenine argument when I see one. And I certainly don't have to be a mod to kindly ask, as a user of this forum, that a mod lock this topic and that the discussion should be taken to private message or another private form of communication. Because not only is this argument just pathetic, but the topic title is a miserable one to see near the top of a board. That, and this topic has actually got nothing to do with the forum users at large, and is in no way a widely appealing discussion. If the Luigi topic that was recently locked was really deemed "unsuitable" for the forum or whatever, then so can this (because tons of people love Luigi, and hey, it's the Year of Luigi! It was completely relevant! ).

[OCG]

I do agree with you Sonic that this should end, and title of topic is pathetic and miserable.
As for mods, they tried to explain him where he did wrong because it's their job to help others and resolve issues. It was Roles who was posting crap in IRC and in Off topic. And yes, this would end faster on other forums because he would probably end up banned or something long before this. Mods are here very tolerable in my view at least, and Roles should appreciate it.

[Master]

Alright, this has gone on publicly long enough, I'm locking this, further discussion of this incident should be done via PM.