Next-Gen Consoles/Games

[OCG]

Wii Mini - "true" Next-Gen

How the fuck... ?

Did you saw the "" when I said true?
You really thought I was serious


Anyways speaking of Next-Gen, I hope for this
http://www.geek.com/games/sony-responds ... t-1572378/

[MrBadGuy]

Christ, the Wii U had a better launch then both of these consoles.

Not really, unless you count ZombiU as a must-have game.

I don't think anyone counts ZombiU as a must-have game.
The best game they had at launch had to be NSMB.

[Rayfist]

Well, no not really.

First party wise, I think so. It seems PS4 and Xbox One are barely bringing much interesting to the table, but what can you expect from a launch.
edit: On second thought, never mind, it seems to have a pretty bad launch but still some interesting games it had in the beginning.

[Master]

Hm, I don't remember much of the Wii U launch, but I don't think it was spectacular to say the least, let's not forget the price-cuts either. Ninty seem to have gotten off their feet since then, but with the PS4 and One offerings, I'm really unsure how things will play out.

[MrBadGuy]

Well so far the only games I'm interested in for Wii U are NSMB, 3D World, Wind Waker HD, and that lego police game. If they make a Metroid Prime game then I'm sold.
But this is still not a huge selection of exclusives, and since the console has been out for a year now, I wish that there were more.

The Wii U has to make up for it's lack of powerful hardware by having awesome exclusives and games that make good use of the controller.

[Master]

A stellar Metroid title would certainly turn my head, though in honesty, part of me wishes it'll be for the 3DS, as it's turning to be a much more justifiable system to own, and I'm more willing to shell out for it compared to a Wii U hence.

[Adsolution]

Yep, Ryse just got some pretty harsh ratings. I totally saw it coming. While graphically the game looks neat (I mean what else to expect from the Cryengine), god damn it, it looks tedious and boring.

Couldn't agree more. As much as I respect and admire their engine, even suck up to Crytek given that I'm one of their veteran community members, and that their methods are so absolutely intriguing beyond that of any other company I find, they really need to stop getting their animators to design their gameplay.

I'm stuck as to whether I should purchase it or not. On one hand, it could be great study into the methods they used to design the game itself with the engine, but on the other hand, with it being an Xbox One exclusive, I wouldn't get to do much more than run around the campaign trying to study stuff with no potential for modding whatsoever.

[Rayfist]

If it's for studying purposes perhaps wait for a price drop. The Xbox One has many other exclusives rather worth getting. DR3 seems to be getting some good reviews, for a launch title, it looks pretty damn great in general.

[sonicbrawler182]

I personally think the Wii U is shaping up to be a justified purchase already, though I suppose you'd also have to have a wide taste in games. I've bought about 8-9 Wii U games in a year. And I rarely BUY that many games in a year, period. Nintendo just needs to step up their online game, really, among a few other refinements to the firmware.

I have faith the PS4 will be the same situation in terms of games. There is nothing interesting right now, but I'll give it a year (well, technically I don't need to, as my brother is getting the system at launch, but there won't be any interesting games to me for a while yet).

As for the Xbox One, Project Spark is the only thing that interests me (I would say DR3, but that would literally be for no reason other than the Mega Man X armour! ). The thing is, I don't have faith in Microsoft regarding exclusives, and their equivalent to PS Plus is a joke. And it's a less powerful system. And more expensive (because everyone loves Kinect). So no matter what angle I look at it from, I can't find reason to take interest.

Plus, I still am not confident those reversals they made regarding those stupid policies they had in mind at first, are permanent.

[OCG]

If it's for studying purposes perhaps wait for a price drop. The Xbox One has many other exclusives rather worth getting. DR3 seems to be getting some good reviews, for a launch title, it looks pretty damn great in general.

When I saw X in DR3, I really wished it was on PC as well.

[Adsolution]

And it's a less powerful system.

I don't really grasp why anyone cares. The performance difference is negligible enough for multiplatform games to, in almost all cases, probably have no graphical or humanly noticeable performance difference, and exclusives built to run on the scarcely more powerful hardware of the PlayStation 4 can't be compared to a One exclusive, as they're exclusive and have no point of reference.

(because everyone loves Kinect)

Why, why, why is Kinect something to criticise? That's another thing I can't grasp. If it were an optional peripheral, the technology would likely improve at 1/10th the rate it would as opposed to it being integrated.

[Bzzit]

I just don't think many people are really intrested in the Kinect or its software. I mean the original Kinect had a 1:1 software-hardware attach rate which is pretty bad considering the amount of software Micrsoft put out for it. So I don't think people really want to pay extra for something they didnt like in the first place.

[sonicbrawler182]

And it's a less powerful system.

I don't really grasp why anyone cares. The performance difference is negligible enough for multiplatform games to, in almost all cases, probably have no graphical or humanly noticeable performance difference, and exclusives built to run on the scarcely more powerful hardware of the PlayStation 4 can't be compared to a One exclusive, as they're exclusive and have no point of reference.

(because everyone loves Kinect)

Why, why, why is Kinect something to criticise? That's another thing I can't grasp. If it were an optional peripheral, the technology would likely improve at 1/10th the rate it would as opposed to it being integrated.

I don't care about specs, it's just that even if I did, the Xbox One still comes out inferior to the PS4.

Kinect is something to criticise because forcing it to be packed with the console is the only thing making the Xbox One more expensive than the PS4 (PS4 would likely be a little more expensive than the Xbox One if they didn't force Kinect on the Xbox One). It's a terrible business decision.

And in all honesty, I had more fun with EyeToy games than I did with Kinect games. I just think it's a pointless device, and it's impossible to make truly fleshed out experiences with it.

[sonicbrawler182]

And it's a less powerful system.

I don't really grasp why anyone cares. The performance difference is negligible enough for multiplatform games to, in almost all cases, probably have no graphical or humanly noticeable performance difference, and exclusives built to run on the scarcely more powerful hardware of the PlayStation 4 can't be compared to a One exclusive, as they're exclusive and have no point of reference.

(because everyone loves Kinect)

Why, why, why is Kinect something to criticise? That's another thing I can't grasp. If it were an optional peripheral, the technology would likely improve at 1/10th the rate it would as opposed to it being integrated.

I don't care about specs, it's just that even if I did, the Xbox One still comes out inferior to the PS4.

Kinect is something to criticise because forcing it to be packed with the console is the only thing making the Xbox One more expensive than the PS4 (PS4 would likely be a little more expensive than the Xbox One if they didn't force Kinect on the Xbox One). It's a terrible business decision.

And in all honesty, I had more fun with EyeToy games than I did with Kinect games. I just think it's a pointless device, and it's impossible to make truly fleshed out experiences with it.

[Ray502]

And it's a less powerful system.

I don't really grasp why anyone cares. The performance difference is negligible enough for multiplatform games to, in almost all cases, probably have no graphical or humanly noticeable performance difference, and exclusives built to run on the scarcely more powerful hardware of the PlayStation 4 can't be compared to a One exclusive, as they're exclusive and have no point of reference.

(because everyone loves Kinect)

Why, why, why is Kinect something to criticise? That's another thing I can't grasp. If it were an optional peripheral, the technology would likely improve at 1/10th the rate it would as opposed to it being integrated.

I don't care about specs, it's just that even if I did, the Xbox One still comes out inferior to the PS4.

Kinect is something to criticise because forcing it to be packed with the console is the only thing making the Xbox One more expensive than the PS4 (PS4 would likely be a little more expensive than the Xbox One if they didn't force Kinect on the Xbox One). It's a terrible business decision.

And in all honesty, I had more fun with EyeToy games than I did with Kinect games. I just think it's a pointless device, and it's impossible to make truly fleshed out experiences with it.

So you are saying the Kinect is just a useless device. The commercials I saw on TV, it looks kinda fun in my opinion.

[OCG]

Not everyone finds motion controlls good I guess.

Kinect is something to criticise because forcing it to be packed with the console is the only thing making the Xbox One more expensive than the PS4 (PS4 would likely be a little more expensive than the Xbox One if they didn't force Kinect on the Xbox One). It's a terrible business decision.

I 100% agree with what you said.

[sonicbrawler182]

And it's a less powerful system.

I don't really grasp why anyone cares. The performance difference is negligible enough for multiplatform games to, in almost all cases, probably have no graphical or humanly noticeable performance difference, and exclusives built to run on the scarcely more powerful hardware of the PlayStation 4 can't be compared to a One exclusive, as they're exclusive and have no point of reference.

(because everyone loves Kinect)

Why, why, why is Kinect something to criticise? That's another thing I can't grasp. If it were an optional peripheral, the technology would likely improve at 1/10th the rate it would as opposed to it being integrated.

I don't care about specs, it's just that even if I did, the Xbox One still comes out inferior to the PS4.

Kinect is something to criticise because forcing it to be packed with the console is the only thing making the Xbox One more expensive than the PS4 (PS4 would likely be a little more expensive than the Xbox One if they didn't force Kinect on the Xbox One). It's a terrible business decision.

And in all honesty, I had more fun with EyeToy games than I did with Kinect games. I just think it's a pointless device, and it's impossible to make truly fleshed out experiences with it.

So you are saying the Kinect is just a useless device. The commercials I saw on TV, it looks kinda fun in my opinion.

It's not useless. It's just that Microsoft hardly knows how to use it, and as a result, third parties will not be as enthusiastic about it.

[MrBadGuy]

The only thing I really care about when it comes to the different specs, is the fact that many multiplat Xbox games are running at 720p, which is something I was really looking forward to changing this gen. Personally I'd much rather play a game at 1080p 30fps than 720p 60fps.

Aside from that the disparity in hardware is mostly negligible, and Microsoft can also unlock more of the Xbox's power in the future if they want to.

[sonicbrawler182]

For me, it depends on the game - if a game is like, a platformer or just something designed with precision control in mind, I'd rather 60FPS, 720p. If it doesn't have such a focus and is a game with beautiful, vast, detailed environments, I would rather 30FPS, 1080p.

I can cope with either just fine, but after playing Sonic Lost World, and then going back to the console version of Generations, it really opened my eyes up to how games with a focus on precision benefit from 60FPS.

[OCG]

For me, I always like 1080p best for modern games.