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Re: A guide to the theories, lore and conspiracies of the Rayman Dreamverse

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 4:58 am
by Crash267
Hunchman801 wrote: Sun Aug 21, 2022 4:20 am
Elite Piranha wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 7:03 pm Also, is there a reason to think that Master Kaag trapped the 3 animals (including the Xowar) that are in the secret room in The Tower of the Leptys? Why would a wanted poster of the Xowar still exist if Kaag has already captured him? Maybe if the wanted poster was crossed with an X, but it seems that the hoodlums where still looking for the Xowar before Rayman defeated Kaag.
Wasn't the Xowar originally supposed to be the boss of Clearleaf Forest? Those posters are just leftovers then. As for the secret room in the Tower of the Leptys, it's just a nice way the developers found of incorporating the models of otherwise completely scrapped creatures.
is there any Xowar concept art I couldn't find any?

Re: A guide to the theories, lore and conspiracies of the Rayman Dreamverse

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 5:44 am
by Elite Piranha
Hunchman801 wrote: Sun Aug 21, 2022 4:20 am Wasn't the Xowar originally supposed to be the boss of Clearleaf Forest? Those posters are just leftovers then. As for the secret room in the Tower of the Leptys, it's just a nice way the developers found of incorporating the models of otherwise completely scrapped creatures.
Agreed, I brought this up again because in the image from the first post there is an entry named "Free Kaag's prisioners" (which also shows up in one of the iceberg images), and I was wondering if there was any theory about it that I didn't know about.

Also, I wonder if the "Globox is racist/Offensive Globox" thing was something that was actually discussed in forums back in the day, or if it was something that was added by the maker of the image.

Re: A guide to the theories, lore and conspiracies of the Rayman Dreamverse

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 1:44 pm
by PluMGMK
Hunchman801 wrote: Sun Aug 21, 2022 4:20 am As for the secret room in the Tower of the Leptys, it's just a nice way the developers found of incorporating the models of otherwise completely scrapped creatures.
A bit like the conveyor belts near the end of Half-Life 2 then… Except behind a scorewall, so it's a nice little bonus for doing well in the last few levels. I guess it's like a mini bonus "making-of", in the same vein as some of the goodies that were originally offered in the Lums Race (if I recall correctly).
Elite Piranha wrote: Sun Aug 21, 2022 5:44 am Also, I wonder if the "Globox is racist/Offensive Globox" thing was something that was actually discussed in forums back in the day, or if it was something that was added by the maker of the image.
It certainly sounds like something that might have been discussed somewhere on the internet, but I'm 99% sure it never made it as far as this site…

Re: A guide to the theories, lore and conspiracies of the Rayman Dreamverse

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2022 12:21 am
by Hunchman801
Crash267 wrote: Sun Aug 21, 2022 4:58 am is there any Xowar concept art I couldn't find any?
I think it's all in the Xowar article on RayWiki.
Elite Piranha wrote: Sun Aug 21, 2022 5:44 am Also, I wonder if the "Globox is racist/Offensive Globox" thing was something that was actually discussed in forums back in the day, or if it was something that was added by the maker of the image.
Just like PluM, I have no recollection of such a discussion taking place on the forum. I only remember the controversy around Picture City pirates (blueism at its worst :hap:) and, to a lesser extent, the debate spurred by Wild, Wild East ninjas (which ironically saw the accusation side utter some deeply xenophonic generalisations against the French :lol:).

Re: A guide to the theories, lore and conspiracies of the Rayman Dreamverse

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2022 4:24 am
by Crash267
Hunchman801 wrote: Mon Aug 22, 2022 12:21 am I think it's all in the Xowar article on RayWiki.
Ok I was thinking more in any art books or sketches something like that it's weird that theirs only 1 drawing of him wait is the Xowar a him? Or a she?

Re: A guide to the theories, lore and conspiracies of the Rayman Dreamverse

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2022 7:15 am
by Hunchman801
I believe official material refers to him as a "he".

Re: A guide to the theories, lore and conspiracies of the Rayman Dreamverse

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2022 7:36 pm
by Crash267
Hunchman801 wrote: Mon Aug 22, 2022 7:15 am I believe official material refers to him as a "he".
Ok makes sense now that I think about it most rayman creatures don't have any definite gender :|

Re: A guide to the theories, lore and conspiracies of the Rayman Dreamverse

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2022 7:43 pm
by PluMGMK
That reminds me of the absurd claim made for years on the English wiki that all Electoons are female!

Re: A guide to the theories, lore and conspiracies of the Rayman Dreamverse

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2022 7:46 pm
by Crash267
PluMGMK wrote: Mon Aug 22, 2022 7:43 pm That reminds me of the absurd claim made for years on the English wiki that all Electoons are female!
Ok that's weird very weird just like thinking about raymans age how old is he?

Re: A guide to the theories, lore and conspiracies of the Rayman Dreamverse

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2022 8:38 pm
by Hunchman801
PluMGMK wrote: Mon Aug 22, 2022 7:43 pm That reminds me of the absurd claim made for years on the English wiki that all Electoons are female!
Oh, you and your lesbian Electoon theory. :fou:

Re: A guide to the theories, lore and conspiracies of the Rayman Dreamverse

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2022 9:02 pm
by PluMGMK
It was so weird, I was just trying to highlight the groundlessness of the single-sex population claim (albeit in a roundabout way) and next thing I was accused of theorizing lesbian electoons! :confus:

Re: A guide to the theories, lore and conspiracies of the Rayman Dreamverse

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:37 am
by Hunchman801
It took a long time to fix, but you eventually got that false assertion removed!

Re: A guide to the theories, lore and conspiracies of the Rayman Dreamverse

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 11:42 pm
by Crash267
so I looked up Rayman's age and got 27 years old for some reason its probably not canon at all but ill take it as head canon

Re: A guide to the theories, lore and conspiracies of the Rayman Dreamverse

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 11:51 pm
by PluMGMK
That's his "age" in the real world, since the first game came out in 1995. Actually his 27th "birthday" isn't until next Thursday though…

Re: A guide to the theories, lore and conspiracies of the Rayman Dreamverse

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2022 12:04 am
by Crash267
PluMGMK wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 11:51 pm That's his "age" in the real world, since the first game came out in 1995. Actually his 27th "birthday" isn't until next Thursday though…
well thats funny that is birthday is so soon now

Re: A guide to the theories, lore and conspiracies of the Rayman Dreamverse

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2022 12:28 am
by arnoldfranklin
Yeah, I found that out too. viewtopic.php?p=1442502#p1442502

Re: A guide to the theories, lore and conspiracies of the Rayman Dreamverse

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2022 12:31 am
by Crash267
arnoldfranklin wrote: Fri Aug 26, 2022 12:28 am Yeah, I found that out too. viewtopic.php?p=1442502#p1442502
ok that's pretty funny :lol: coincidence probably

Re: A guide to the theories, lore and conspiracies of the Rayman Dreamverse

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2022 4:18 pm
by arnoldfranklin
There is something interesting. I think I'm not the first person who's ever brought this up, but anyways: With the thousandth lum secret, there are 1,001 lums. It's not just the same lum which reappeared there. There is something very important that I found a while back and I remember mentioning this on Twitter in replies. I know it's not the most canon thing ever, but on a Rayman wanted poster that they made which also includes Ed and Rocket, it says, "Seeking 1001 lums and the four faces of Polochus."

Re: A guide to the theories, lore and conspiracies of the Rayman Dreamverse

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2022 4:27 pm
by Crash267
arnoldfranklin wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 4:18 pm There is something interesting. I think I'm not the first person who's ever brought this up, but anyways: With the thousandth lum secret, there are 1,001 lums. It's not just the same lum which reappeared there. There is something very important that I found a while back and I remember mentioning this on Twitter in replies. I know it's not the most canon thing ever, but on a Rayman wanted poster that they made which also includes Ed and Rocket, it says, "Seeking 1001 lums and the four faces of Polochus."
hmmm interesting I'll add the wanted poster to this reply

Re: A guide to the theories, lore and conspiracies of the Rayman Dreamverse

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 10:53 am
by Hunchman801
I'm pretty sure the game only features 1000 Lums, not 1001. And it's probably more canon than this poster, isn't it?

Also, RayWiki has this on the 1000th Yellow Lum article:
This Lum was originally going to be the 1001st Lum, meaning that the game would normally have 1000 Lums. That extra Lum would either have appeared in the Woods of Light or the Prison Ship.