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[EdgyRabbid]

I heard Win 11 is really bad... l'll keep using 10 even after end of support! Im not dealing with 11!

[Master]

As much as I dislike Win11, I'd be very, very careful about using Win10 when it hits EoL if you're not able to maintain some form of support or upkeep. It's a security risk and you're opening yourself up to attacks that Microsoft won't be inclined to patch.

If you dislike Win11 to the point where you're inclined to avoid it, I'd suggest migration to a regularly updated Linux distro, though of course that in itself will take a lot of learning.

[EdgyRabbid]

I have a vpn and anti-virus.. think l'll be fine for the time being lol. Also RCP doesnt support Linux!

[The Jonster]

Well, things like this do exist after all:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Rayman/comment ... inuxmacos/

[EdgyRabbid]

Eh.. im still pretty save with my VPN and anti Virus!

[Master]

While that is ultimately your prerogative and I'm not going to be pushy, I feel like I would be remiss if I didn't at least advise caution about being lulled into a false sense of security. While I'm not a cybersecurity expert or the best when it comes to software (I suspect members like Plum or Steo know more than I do), I'd like to draw attention to the main purposes behind those two pieces of software.

While a VPN and anti-virus have their own security benefits, a VPN is primarily focused on privacy on the internet, whereas an anti-virus is monitoring for malicious activities being performed on your computer, and for programs known or suspected to be harmful. Neither of those however, deal with any issues or openings in the OS itself. You can have all the security guards you want and keep your address hidden, but if you've got a hole in your fence, you still run the risk of someone coming across and getting through. And that hole is only going to get bigger as the OS gets older and further away from modern updates and people find more and more ways to poke through Windows 10.

The Swiss Cheese Model probably explains this a bit better, yes you've got more layers, but all it takes is for some of the holes (or vulnerabilities/oversights/misses) to align with holes in the OS, and you're in trouble. And since Windows 10 won't be getting further updates when it hits EoL, the hole in Windows 10 gets bigger...and you're more and more reliant on your VPN and Anti-Virus and hoping they can pick up the slack.

Don't get me wrong, there's a lot to dislike about modern Windows and if it weren't for the compatibility caveats I'd have jumped ship to Linux already. But I'd be more inclined to grit my teeth with Windows 11 (and use whatever tools I can to curb its BS), than run the risk of getting royally screwed by an OS that is only going to get ever more insecure and more of a risk as time goes on.

[The Jonster]

You should never assume that antivirus is a guaranteed fullproof solution, newer security threats appear constantly. Some types of threats are also ineffective when it comes to antivirus. Like say, rootkits, certain types of malware, and phishing attacks, for example.

[StanceDance]

Good Night Y'all

[ItzalDrake]

You should never assume that antivirus is a guaranteed fullproof solution, newer security threats appear constantly. Some types of threats are also ineffective when it comes to antivirus. Like say, rootkits, certain types of malware, and phishing attacks, for example.

Exactly!
It all depends on how we use the computer, in fact I'm fine with Windows Defender and I use Virus Total in case I have doubts about opening suspicious files

[EdgyRabbid]

Im mostly just using my pc to browser the internet, draw and play games. Plus my pc cant run Windows 11!

Edit: YEah fuck this im switching to linux rn

Edit 2: Everyone keeps telling me differnt stuff and idk who to beleive!!! Im just gonna wait til EOS and then see what im gonna do...

[Hugo]

Everyone keeps telling me differnt stuff and idk who to beleive!!! Im just gonna wait til EOS and then see what im gonna do...

It's definitely good to learn from people that have real experience with the subject matter, but you can supplement that with your own research. It's so easy now with google and LLMs. Knowledge is power!

[Master]

I'd be inclined to check the sources if you're doing searches using LLMs, they're getting better than they were when they were first rolled out, but they're not perfect..

As for the uncertainty, I don't think staying on Windows 10 immediately after EoL is going to be an issue, but it will be one in the longer-term. Both XP and 7 were OSes that were as popular and folks weren't keen on moving from, but both had major flaws discovered post-EoL to the point where Microsoft actually had to issue emergency patches because they were that severe.

Now if a similar scenario hits Windows 10, I suspect Microsoft would be inclined to do the same, but at the same time, those exploits were patched *after* they'd either caused a major incident, or they could very well be about to. Bear in mind also that WIndows 11 is an evolution of Windows 10, any exploit found in Windows 11 that's patched will draw attention to Windows 10 and folks will likely try to see if that exploit exists there. And if it does, MS wouldn't have patched it there, which means you've got a known vulnerability.

Ultimately, I think assessing the risks and being mindful that while it likely won't be an immediate issue, sticking with Windows 10 in the longer term (say in a year or two) is not a good idea if you've not got access to some patches or support.

[EdgyRabbid]

I got suggestions from people about post EOS patches, im not worried for the time being, still a couple months left. But i also heard Microsoft might extend support because most people cant upgrade.

[Greengoop]

I saw this really bad guardian article the other day

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyl ... rn-britons

I can relate to 3/100 of these, so I think I should revoke my Britishness now

[EdgyRabbid]

Man these computer problems won’t stop! I’m not sure what happened but I’ve tried everything and the school wifi still won’t connect to my computer! Maybe I need to test if the connection works at home but I am TRIED AS FUCK from trouble shooting for the past FUCKING HOUR

[The Jonster]

My gosh, we’ve come to a point in time where people bring their laptops to school! I feel soooooo young

[Master]

Hey I remember when they were starting to roll out using iPads and tablets in schools, and I'm not exactly what you'd term a young 'un at this point.

[The Jonster]

My gosh that happened already too?

Ok I must not have been paying attention to my surroundings. The only instances where I’d see people being laptops, iPads and the like to school was when I was in uni/college something years ago.

[Greengoop]

I remember we used to have iPads at my primary school. Ahh, the memories! At secondary I’ve used a laptop before when I was told my writing was too shite for paper, but exercise books is still the norm here

[Master]

There's some things I think putting pen to paper is probably more effective (like say, solving maths equations and the like - although with tablets and digital pens, that can be replicated). But I do not miss the days when I had to handwrite essays and the like, my hands would ache for ages after the fact.

Granted, my hands also do ache after an extended period of typing, but I think I spit out words faster via keyboard than I do by pen.