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==Kagouflap or Hoodloon?==

As you play the level of the summit beyond the clouds where the hoodloon is seen, you can see that the hoodloon is not wearing a metal helmet and different colours to that of the Kagouflap. so could the two picturs be switched?

As you play the level of the summit beyond the clouds where the hoodloon is seen, you can see that the hoodloon is not wearing a metal helmet and different colours to that of the Kagouflap. so could the two picturs be switched? {{Unsigned|Sansebas|23:06, 25 February 2010‎}}

:I'm not sure. You'd have to ask Spiraldoor. Also: who are you? [[User:Iheckler9|Iheckler9]] 14:58, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

::Yes, I believe the one with the metal helmet is the Kagouflap, a scrapped enemy which was a bit different than the Kagustick (Hoodloon). —[[User:Spiraldoor|Spiraldoor]] 14:38, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

I merged the former 'Kagouflap' article with this one. The text concerning this Hoodlum had been misinterpreted, and was actually slightly wrong. The Kagouflap was not entirely scrapped, it was almost cut as there's still one in the Summit, but it doesn't attack Rayman anymore. The other flying enemy, the Kagustic, is no more than the Hoodstormer under his old name, which was obviously retained. [http://www.raymanpc.com/Img/dossierpresse_rayman3.pdf This document] also describes the artwork we used on the 'Kagouflap' page as a Flapoteur. —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png|link=User:Hunchman801]] 16:25, 4 April 2014 (CEST)

::Conclusion, so the Hoodloon is the Hoodlum we see briefly in the Summit is also known as Kagouflap, right? And Kagustic is the prototype name of the Hoodstormer? Also, I know it isn't quite related but I notice there's that scrapped blue bird from the Xowar chamber, and in the text of the casting there's "Glutes". Can we have an extra evidence then? --[[Image:Sparkle.gif]][[User:Haruka|Haruka]][[Image:Sparkle.gif]] 14:13, 5 April 2014 (CEST)

:::Yes, that's it. As for the glute, I already mentioned this [http://raymanpc.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=73&t=4866&p=323733#p323733 here] five and half years ago. Haven't really changed my mind since then. —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png|link=User:Hunchman801]] 19:07, 5 April 2014 (CEST)

::::I didn't notice at the time. Well, we are definitely sure now. --[[Image:Sparkle.gif]][[User:Haruka|Haruka]][[Image:Sparkle.gif]] 13:53, 6 April 2014 (CEST)

==Hitting the Hoodloon==

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:::::::::::Do you mean that Rayman's fist just passes through the Hoodloon when you shoot at it, or that he's too quick to reach him with your fist? In any case, the fact that there is no red circle makes it kinda obvious to me that it cannot be hit. —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png|link=User:Hunchman801]] 11:21, 5 April 2012 (CEST)

::::::::::::For your first statement, the one under the bridge is impossible to hit, your fist passes through it. For your second point, the one carrying the Officer is too quick. --[[User:Iheckler9|iHeckler9]][[File:Life.gif|link=User:Iheckler9]] 11:41, 5 April 2012 (CEST)

:::::::::::::I think it is really impossible to hit. --[[Image:Sparkle.gif]][[User:Haruka|Haruka]][[Image:Sparkle.gif]] 12:38, 5 April 2012 (CEST)

::::::::::::::Thanks for your help iHeckler: case closed. —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png|link=User:Hunchman801]] 12:42, 5 April 2012 (CEST)

:::::::::::::::Or is it? I tried hitting it with the normal fist; before the cutscene where the Hoodloon appears, I zoomed in and saw one flying against a cloud. If we could hit it BEFORE it appears canonically, we might be able to destroy it. I propose using Cheat Engine with a Shock Rocket to try and hit it. (We could also '''try hitting the Lavomatrixes with a Shock Rocket''' to see the damage dealt by it.) --[[User:Iheckler9|iHeckler9]][[File:Life.gif|link=User:Iheckler9]] 21:00, 26 June 2012 (CEST)

::::::::::::::::Some enemies, such as Begoniax, cannot be hit with a Shock Rocket, despite being vulnerable to regular attacks. We could always try, but that would be useless, since the Shock Rocket inflicts 76 damage, which would immediately defeat any standard Hoodlum. The same goes for the Lavomatrix, not to mention that it's even more useless since we already know its number of hit points. —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png|link=User:Hunchman801]] 11:15, 4 July 2012 (CEST)

==Kagalpha==

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 ==Kagouflap or Hoodloon?==
-As you play the level of the summit beyond the clouds where the hoodloon is seen, you can see that the hoodloon is not wearing a metal helmet and different colours to that of the Kagouflap. so could the two picturs be switched?
+As you play the level of the summit beyond the clouds where the hoodloon is seen, you can see that the hoodloon is not wearing a metal helmet and different colours to that of the Kagouflap. so could the two picturs be switched? {{Unsigned|Sansebas|23:06, 25 February 2010‎}}
 :I'm not sure. You'd have to ask Spiraldoor. Also: who are you? [[User:Iheckler9|Iheckler9]] 14:58, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
 ::Yes, I believe the one with the metal helmet is the Kagouflap, a scrapped enemy which was a bit different than the Kagustick (Hoodloon). —[[User:Spiraldoor|Spiraldoor]] 14:38, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
+I merged the former 'Kagouflap' article with this one. The text concerning this Hoodlum had been misinterpreted, and was actually slightly wrong. The Kagouflap was not entirely scrapped, it was almost cut as there's still one in the Summit, but it doesn't attack Rayman anymore. The other flying enemy, the Kagustic, is no more than the Hoodstormer under his old name, which was obviously retained. [http://www.raymanpc.com/Img/dossierpresse_rayman3.pdf This document] also describes the artwork we used on the 'Kagouflap' page as a Flapoteur. —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png|link=User:Hunchman801]] 16:25, 4 April 2014 (CEST)
+::Conclusion, so the Hoodloon is the Hoodlum we see briefly in the Summit is also known as Kagouflap, right? And Kagustic is the prototype name of the Hoodstormer? Also, I know it isn't quite related but I notice there's that scrapped blue bird from the Xowar chamber, and in the text of the casting there's "Glutes". Can we have an extra evidence then? --[[Image:Sparkle.gif]][[User:Haruka|Haruka]][[Image:Sparkle.gif]] 14:13, 5 April 2014 (CEST)
+:::Yes, that's it. As for the glute, I already mentioned this [http://raymanpc.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=73&t=4866&p=323733#p323733 here] five and half years ago. Haven't really changed my mind since then. —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png|link=User:Hunchman801]] 19:07, 5 April 2014 (CEST)
+::::I didn't notice at the time. Well, we are definitely sure now. --[[Image:Sparkle.gif]][[User:Haruka|Haruka]][[Image:Sparkle.gif]] 13:53, 6 April 2014 (CEST)
 ==Hitting the Hoodloon==
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 :::::::::::Do you mean that Rayman's fist just passes through the Hoodloon when you shoot at it, or that he's too quick to reach him with your fist? In any case, the fact that there is no red circle makes it kinda obvious to me that it cannot be hit. —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png|link=User:Hunchman801]] 11:21, 5 April 2012 (CEST)
 ::::::::::::For your first statement, the one under the bridge is impossible to hit, your fist passes through it. For your second point, the one carrying the Officer is too quick. --[[User:Iheckler9|iHeckler9]][[File:Life.gif|link=User:Iheckler9]] 11:41, 5 April 2012 (CEST)
+:::::::::::::I think it is really impossible to hit. --[[Image:Sparkle.gif]][[User:Haruka|Haruka]][[Image:Sparkle.gif]] 12:38, 5 April 2012 (CEST)
+::::::::::::::Thanks for your help iHeckler: case closed. —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png|link=User:Hunchman801]] 12:42, 5 April 2012 (CEST)
+:::::::::::::::Or is it? I tried hitting it with the normal fist; before the cutscene where the Hoodloon appears, I zoomed in and saw one flying against a cloud. If we could hit it BEFORE it appears canonically, we might be able to destroy it. I propose using Cheat Engine with a Shock Rocket to try and hit it. (We could also '''try hitting the Lavomatrixes with a Shock Rocket''' to see the damage dealt by it.) --[[User:Iheckler9|iHeckler9]][[File:Life.gif|link=User:Iheckler9]] 21:00, 26 June 2012 (CEST)
+::::::::::::::::Some enemies, such as Begoniax, cannot be hit with a Shock Rocket, despite being vulnerable to regular attacks. We could always try, but that would be useless, since the Shock Rocket inflicts 76 damage, which would immediately defeat any standard Hoodlum. The same goes for the Lavomatrix, not to mention that it's even more useless since we already know its number of hit points. —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png|link=User:Hunchman801]] 11:15, 4 July 2012 (CEST)
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