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Development for my version of the Rayman Iceberg, based initially on the [https://raymanpc.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1416744#p1416744 post made by Thalia] ([https://www.reddit.com/r/Rayman/comments/hus92m/the_rayman_legends_master_image_a_guide_to_the/ reddit post]) and other iceberg images.

Development for my version of the Rayman Iceberg, based initially on the [https://raymanpc.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1416744#p1416744 post made by Thalia] ([https://www.reddit.com/r/Rayman/comments/hus92m/the_rayman_legends_master_image_a_guide_to_the/ reddit post]) and other iceberg images. Other iceberg images: [https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FPwskBtXEAQcywH?format=jpg&name=large 1], [https://i.redd.it/vnkq4wc0sif51.jpg 2]

Work in progress...

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=== My Fair Lac-Mac ===

"My Fair Lac-Mac" is the name of the unfinished fifth episode of the [[Rayman Animated Series|Rayman TV series]], which apparently was almost completed, but was stopped at the last minute. The name of the episode and a couple images of it can be seen in the website of one of the animators.<ref>Emilio 3D Graphics, http://emilio3dgraphics.50megs.com/animation_Rayman.htm</ref>

=== Floating Miniature Jano ===

In the PC, N64 and Dreamcast versions of ''[[Rayman 2]]'', if the player returns to [[the Marshes of Awakening]] after beating [[the Cave of Bad Dreams]], they can often see a miniature [[Jano]] floating over the swamp water.

== Below the surface ==

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=== Space Mama and Mr Dark swapped levels ===

Mama~~'s weapon is~~ a rolling pin~~. The~~ pirates in Picture City use frying pans~~. They~~ would be ~~more at home~~ in a food based world.

Since the [[Space Mama]] uses a rolling pin and the pirates from [[Picture City]] use frying pans, some people consider that it would make more sense for them to be in a food based world like the [[Candy Château]], the world where [[Mr Dark]] is hidden.

=== Cagoulettes ===

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=== The First Bad Dream ===

Rayman is created to battle Jano.

=== Trojan in Rayman Forever ===

There had been reports of trojans being detected by antivirus software in ''[[Rayman Forever]]''.<ref>GOG.com discussion forums, ''Trojan virus in Rayman forever?'', https://www.gog.com/forum/rayman_series/trojan_virus_in_rayman_forever</ref> According to RibShark on the GOG forums, there is in fact code for the CIH virus.<ref>GOG.com discussion forums, ''Rayman being flagged by Antivirus Software'', https://www.gog.com/forum/rayman_series/rayman_being_flagged_by_antivirus_software/post7</ref>

== Dark Water ==

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=== Vine porn ===

In a video from the YouTube channel DoubleFineProd, at 45:08 [[Michel Ancel]] tells a story about ''[[Rayman 2]]'', where a guy goes to him and claims to have found "porn" in the game, referring to the movements of the roots and their symmetry in certain places of the level [[Beneath the Sanctuary of Rock and Lava]].<ref>YouTube, ''Devs Play S2E09 · "Rayman 2: The Great Escape" with Michel Ancel, Tim Schafer, and Lee Petty'', https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6AgSHT8Ve0</ref>

=== Cielle ===

In the book [[L'Histoire de Rayman]] there is concept art of a young human girl named Cielle who was intended to appear in ''[[Rayman 4 (cancelled prototype)|Rayman 4]]''.<ref>Twitter, Ginny ✧, https://twitter.com/droididoods/status/1271095487404310528</ref>

== The Abyss ==

=== Jimmy ===

~~The earliest origin for~~ Rayman ~~says he~~'s a kid ~~named Jimmy who invented~~ a ~~virtual world, when the world is threatened by~~ a virus~~, he goes into~~ the ~~world as~~ Rayman ~~to protect it~~.

In a page from an [https://raymanpc.com/wiki/en/File:Jimmy.jpg Atari Jaguar Preview Booklet (US)] from 1994, the following description can be found:

{{quote|text=Join Jimmy, a 10-year-old who escapes reality by entering "Hereitscool," a fantasy kingdom he has created within the realms of his computer. When an evil power takes over Hereitscool, Jimmy becomes Rayman, a super hero who must save his friends before it's too late!}}

This led to various theories, for example:

*'''Crippled Jimmy:''' plot for a scrapped Rayman game involved a kid whose arms and legs become crippled and he conects with Rayman for having no arms or legs. Rayman is in a boot camp for video game heroes and Dark Rayman acts as a malicious virus.

*'''Jimmy is Polokus:'''

=== Jimi Hendrix ===

Possible reference to Jimi Hendrix in the early plot for the SNES version of Rayman.

https://raymanpc.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1435449#p1435449

~~Crippled Jimmy~~

{{quote|text=RAYMAN is an electronic character created by professor HENDRIX for his nephew JIM. He travels through virtual worlds and has exceptional powers. He can command objects at a distance with his fist, pilot flying engines, change size, hang and climb platforms, and so on. He also has special powers with surprising effects. Despite these qualities, Rayman's electronic nature does not permit him to dive into water.}}

~~Plot~~ for a ~~scrapped Rayman game involved a kid whose arms~~ and ~~legs become crippled~~ and ~~he conects~~ with ~~Rayman for having no arms or legs~~. Rayman ~~is in a boot camp for video game heroes and Dark Rayman acts as a malicious virus~~. ~~A recyling of the Jimmy plot?~~

=== A purple whale ===

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-Development for my version of the Rayman Iceberg, based initially on the [https://raymanpc.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1416744#p1416744 post made by Thalia] ([https://www.reddit.com/r/Rayman/comments/hus92m/the_rayman_legends_master_image_a_guide_to_the/ reddit post]) and other iceberg images.
+Development for my version of the Rayman Iceberg, based initially on the [https://raymanpc.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1416744#p1416744 post made by Thalia] ([https://www.reddit.com/r/Rayman/comments/hus92m/the_rayman_legends_master_image_a_guide_to_the/ reddit post]) and other iceberg images. Other iceberg images: [https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FPwskBtXEAQcywH?format=jpg&name=large 1], [https://i.redd.it/vnkq4wc0sif51.jpg 2]
 Work in progress...
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 === My Fair Lac-Mac ===
 "My Fair Lac-Mac" is the name of the unfinished fifth episode of the [[Rayman Animated Series|Rayman TV series]], which apparently was almost completed, but was stopped at the last minute. The name of the episode and a couple images of it can be seen in the website of one of the animators.<ref>Emilio 3D Graphics, http://emilio3dgraphics.50megs.com/animation_Rayman.htm</ref>
+=== Floating Miniature Jano ===
+In the PC, N64 and Dreamcast versions of ''[[Rayman 2]]'', if the player returns to [[the Marshes of Awakening]] after beating [[the Cave of Bad Dreams]], they can often see a miniature [[Jano]] floating over the swamp water.
 == Below the surface ==
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 === Space Mama and Mr Dark swapped levels ===
-Mama's weapon is a rolling pin. The pirates in Picture City use frying pans. They would be more at home in a food based world.
+Since the [[Space Mama]] uses a rolling pin and the pirates from [[Picture City]] use frying pans, some people consider that it would make more sense for them to be in a food based world like the [[Candy Château]], the world where [[Mr Dark]] is hidden.
 === Cagoulettes ===
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 === The First Bad Dream ===
 Rayman is created to battle Jano.
+=== Trojan in Rayman Forever ===
+There had been reports of trojans being detected by antivirus software in ''[[Rayman Forever]]''.<ref>GOG.com discussion forums, ''Trojan virus in Rayman forever?'', https://www.gog.com/forum/rayman_series/trojan_virus_in_rayman_forever</ref> According to RibShark on the GOG forums, there is in fact code for the CIH virus.<ref>GOG.com discussion forums, ''Rayman being flagged by Antivirus Software'', https://www.gog.com/forum/rayman_series/rayman_being_flagged_by_antivirus_software/post7</ref>
 == Dark Water ==
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 === Vine porn ===
 In a video from the YouTube channel DoubleFineProd, at 45:08 [[Michel Ancel]] tells a story about ''[[Rayman 2]]'', where a guy goes to him and claims to have found "porn" in the game, referring to the movements of the roots and their symmetry in certain places of the level [[Beneath the Sanctuary of Rock and Lava]].<ref>YouTube, ''Devs Play S2E09 · "Rayman 2: The Great Escape" with Michel Ancel, Tim Schafer, and Lee Petty'', https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6AgSHT8Ve0</ref>
+=== Cielle ===
+In the book [[L'Histoire de Rayman]] there is concept art of a young human girl named Cielle who was intended to appear in ''[[Rayman 4 (cancelled prototype)|Rayman 4]]''.<ref>Twitter, Ginny ✧, https://twitter.com/droididoods/status/1271095487404310528</ref>
 == The Abyss ==
 === Jimmy ===
-The earliest origin for Rayman says he's a kid named Jimmy who invented a virtual world, when the world is threatened by a virus, he goes into the world as Rayman to protect it.
+In a page from an [https://raymanpc.com/wiki/en/File:Jimmy.jpg Atari Jaguar Preview Booklet (US)] from 1994, the following description can be found:
+{{quote|text=Join Jimmy, a 10-year-old who escapes reality by entering "Hereitscool," a fantasy kingdom he has created within the realms of his computer. When an evil power takes over Hereitscool, Jimmy becomes Rayman, a super hero who must save his friends before it's too late!}}
+This led to various theories, for example:
+*'''Crippled Jimmy:''' plot for a scrapped Rayman game involved a kid whose arms and legs become crippled and he conects with Rayman for having no arms or legs. Rayman is in a boot camp for video game heroes and Dark Rayman acts as a malicious virus.
+*'''Jimmy is Polokus:'''
+=== Jimi Hendrix ===
+Possible reference to Jimi Hendrix in the early plot for the SNES version of Rayman.
+https://raymanpc.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1435449#p1435449
-Crippled Jimmy
+{{quote|text=RAYMAN is an electronic character created by professor HENDRIX for his nephew JIM. He travels through virtual worlds and has exceptional powers. He can command objects at a distance with his fist, pilot flying engines, change size, hang and climb platforms, and so on. He also has special powers with surprising effects. Despite these qualities, Rayman's electronic nature does not permit him to dive into water.}}
-Plot for a scrapped Rayman game involved a kid whose arms and legs become crippled and he conects with Rayman for having no arms or legs. Rayman is in a boot camp for video game heroes and Dark Rayman acts as a malicious virus. A recyling of the Jimmy plot?
 === A purple whale ===