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:::::::::It appears that the consensus is overwhelmingly in favor of the Legends design for Rayman's main infobox. Let's give it another 3 days to give everyone the opportunity to voice their thoughts, and then we'll proceed with the community's decision. —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png|class=sprite|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif|class=sprite|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png|class=sprite|link=User:Hunchman801]] 17:44, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

::::::::::Well, after much consideration, I think it’s time I threw my hat in the ring. While Rayman’s appearances in ''Brawlhalla'', ''[[Captain Laserhawk: A Blood Dragon Remix|Captain Laserhawk]]'', and the latter’s NFT-laden [[Captain Laserhawk: the G.A.M.E.|game]] can be dismissed as crossovers or cameos, I think his appearance in ''[[Mario + Rabbids Sparks of Hope]]'' hits too close to home to be considered a “crossover”. Ignoring the metric ton of references packed into the game’s [[Rayman in the Phantom Show|third DLC]], the fact that the [[Rabbids (series)|Rabbids series]] is a sister franchise to the [[Rayman (series)|Rayman series]] gives the DLC’s redesign a nonexistent leg up over those of his other guest appearances.

::::::::::(Side note: I find it funny that Rayman appearing in a [[Rabbids (series)|Rabbids]] game is seen as a “crossover”, when the [[Rabbid]]s came from a [[Rayman (series)|Rayman]] [[Rayman Raving Rabbids|game]] in the first place. If anything, it feels more like a reunion between franchises; for a random example, it’s like how Diddy Kong, who originated from the ''Donkey Kong Country'' games, shows up in a bunch of ''Mario'' spin-offs, but isn’t seen as a “crossover” character.)

::::::::::As for the point about he, [[Globox]], and [[Barbara]]’s designs in ''Brawlhalla'', they are very, VERY similar to their appearances in the [[UbiArt]] games, with minimal adjustments to keep with the game’s art style. Because of how small these changes are, the designs can and should be dismissed from consideration; as for [[Mario + Rabbids Sparks of Hope|Sparks of Hope]]’s design, the changes are not too significant there either, but I think they are just large enough to see it at least as a semi-redesign.

::::::::::Like [[User:Mystyle48|Mystyle48]] pointed out, Rayman’s shoes, eye color, and certain aspects of his hair were changed here, in addition to his hoodie gaining pockets and white hood strings. While this alone may not be seen as enough to justify its status above his other guest appearances, another thing to note is that his [[Vortex]] and [[Shock Rocket|Rocket]] [[Laser-Washing Powder|combat fatigues]] received complete redesigns here, much farther leaps from their last appearances (though they were last seen in 2003’s ''[[Rayman 3]]'', so they were due for a glow up) than Rayman’s normal form in the DLC. Rayman’s [[blaster]] could also be seen as a redesign for his [[plunger]] gun, but I don’t exactly see it that way.

::::::::::Finally, while [[Ubisoft]] has used Rayman’s appearance in the [[UbiArt]] games for other content, like [[Rayman: The Board Game|the board game]] and the Youtooz stuff, I think that’s because ''[[Rayman Legends]]'' is the last mainline game in the [[Rayman (series)|series]] (as of writing this), so it’s a natural pick for content outside of the games. Overall, I think that Rayman’s [[Rayman in the Phantom Show|Phantom Show]] design should be used for the thumbnail, for the reasons I explained above. But if his [[Rayman Legends|Legends]] design is used, I’m okay with that too; at the end of the day, it’s just a picture. Well, I spent way too long stating my case, so I’m gonna go now. Bye! -RayGamer99

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 :::::::::It appears that the consensus is overwhelmingly in favor of the Legends design for Rayman's main infobox. Let's give it another 3 days to give everyone the opportunity to voice their thoughts, and then we'll proceed with the community's decision. —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png|class=sprite|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif|class=sprite|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png|class=sprite|link=User:Hunchman801]] 17:44, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
+::::::::::Well, after much consideration, I think it’s time I threw my hat in the ring. While Rayman’s appearances in ''Brawlhalla'', ''[[Captain Laserhawk: A Blood Dragon Remix|Captain Laserhawk]]'', and the latter’s NFT-laden [[Captain Laserhawk: the G.A.M.E.|game]] can be dismissed as crossovers or cameos, I think his appearance in ''[[Mario + Rabbids Sparks of Hope]]'' hits too close to home to be considered a “crossover”. Ignoring the metric ton of references packed into the game’s [[Rayman in the Phantom Show|third DLC]], the fact that the [[Rabbids (series)|Rabbids series]] is a sister franchise to the [[Rayman (series)|Rayman series]] gives the DLC’s redesign a nonexistent leg up over those of his other guest appearances.
+::::::::::(Side note: I find it funny that Rayman appearing in a [[Rabbids (series)|Rabbids]] game is seen as a “crossover”, when the [[Rabbid]]s came from a [[Rayman (series)|Rayman]] [[Rayman Raving Rabbids|game]] in the first place. If anything, it feels more like a reunion between franchises; for a random example, it’s like how Diddy Kong, who originated from the ''Donkey Kong Country'' games, shows up in a bunch of ''Mario'' spin-offs, but isn’t seen as a “crossover” character.)
+::::::::::As for the point about he, [[Globox]], and [[Barbara]]’s designs in ''Brawlhalla'', they are very, VERY similar to their appearances in the [[UbiArt]] games, with minimal adjustments to keep with the game’s art style. Because of how small these changes are, the designs can and should be dismissed from consideration; as for [[Mario + Rabbids Sparks of Hope|Sparks of Hope]]’s design, the changes are not too significant there either, but I think they are just large enough to see it at least as a semi-redesign.
+::::::::::Like [[User:Mystyle48|Mystyle48]] pointed out, Rayman’s shoes, eye color, and certain aspects of his hair were changed here, in addition to his hoodie gaining pockets and white hood strings. While this alone may not be seen as enough to justify its status above his other guest appearances, another thing to note is that his [[Vortex]] and [[Shock Rocket|Rocket]] [[Laser-Washing Powder|combat fatigues]] received complete redesigns here, much farther leaps from their last appearances (though they were last seen in 2003’s ''[[Rayman 3]]'', so they were due for a glow up) than Rayman’s normal form in the DLC. Rayman’s [[blaster]] could also be seen as a redesign for his [[plunger]] gun, but I don’t exactly see it that way.
+::::::::::Finally, while [[Ubisoft]] has used Rayman’s appearance in the [[UbiArt]] games for other content, like [[Rayman: The Board Game|the board game]] and the Youtooz stuff, I think that’s because ''[[Rayman Legends]]'' is the last mainline game in the [[Rayman (series)|series]] (as of writing this), so it’s a natural pick for content outside of the games. Overall, I think that Rayman’s [[Rayman in the Phantom Show|Phantom Show]] design should be used for the thumbnail, for the reasons I explained above. But if his [[Rayman Legends|Legends]] design is used, I’m okay with that too; at the end of the day, it’s just a picture. Well, I spent way too long stating my case, so I’m gonna go now. Bye! -RayGamer99