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::::::::As for the strange colouration of the guardian: it could be a simple error which occurred during the evolution of the game. Maybe the artists based the designs for the little kings on their monstrous appearances and forgot that they had to ensure consistency with the Mocking Bird's intermediate form. Such mistakes aren't surprising in light of the [[Bzzit]]/[[Moskito]] fiasco, which still confuses me to this day. We know the developers changed their minds about [[Big Mama]] and [[Mamma Hité]] – who knows what kind of developmental changes and mix-ups the other bosses had to endure? In any case, their designs aren't totally disconnected – if you look closely at the little king's tail feathers, you'll see that they look much more similar to those of the guardian than they do to those of the Mocking Bird. —[[User:Spiraldoor|Spiraldoor]] [[File:IconSpiralDoor.png|link=User:Spiraldoor]] 16:12, 11 May 2012 (CEST)
::::::::As for the strange colouration of the guardian: it could be a simple error which occurred during the evolution of the game. Maybe the artists based the designs for the little kings on their monstrous appearances and forgot that they had to ensure consistency with the Mocking Bird's intermediate form. Such mistakes aren't surprising in light of the [[Bzzit]]/[[Moskito]] fiasco, which still confuses me to this day. We know the developers changed their minds about [[Big Mama]] and [[Mamma Hité]] – who knows what kind of developmental changes and mix-ups the other bosses had to endure? In any case, their designs aren't totally disconnected – if you look closely at the little king's tail feathers, you'll see that they look much more similar to those of the guardian than they do to those of the Mocking Bird. —[[User:Spiraldoor|Spiraldoor]] [[File:IconSpiralDoor.png|link=User:Spiraldoor]] 16:12, 11 May 2012 (CEST)


:::::::::I don't agree in the fact that "the attacks are equal". The Corrupted King flies with a bird swarm and gives headbutts, while the Hi-Ho Moskito bird doesn't. The only common attacks they have are harming the character by physical contact or getting caught by the wind and going inside the birds' beaks. One distinct attack of the Hi-Ho Moskito guardian is the helicopter bomb inhaling and spitting. I don't believe they are the same character, aswell there are no direct or clear evidences to speculate such, even if there are some clothing and physical similarities. For me they are different characters, like the Bzzit/Moskito fact, and I believe more in my theory that the Hi-Ho Moskito is a corrupted version of the regular bird enemies. It is the closest and most coerent thing I can think at the moment, and I don't find this impossible since the Darktoons/Antitoons are also corrupted versions of Electoons so it can affect any creature of the Glade. --[[Image:Sparkle.gif]][[User:Haruka|Haruka]][[Image:Sparkle.gif]] 20:05, 11 May 2012 (CEST)
::::::::: First, The colouring error is too theoretical to be proven, and still doesn't explain the lack of crown and the sudden change of clothes (and the crown is too important to be forgotten). Although the changes in Mama Hite to a nymph are notable, the nymph still resembles somehow big mama (hair and dress colour). While the Bzzzit/Moskito colour case is confusing, I think it doesn't have much to do with this game, that kind of programming mistakes should have been corrected a long time ago, technology has evolved. I forgot to mention something, some birds have slanted eyelids, like the Blowing Bird; curiously, in your evolutionary scale, only the Angry Bird has them, while both the good and bad Mocking Birds have fully opened eyes. Now, the similar-looking legs are not really something of big importance, both are birds, that's normal, and ubiart reuses tons of sprites to make different enemies; a good example is the Baby Dragon Chef, the Baby Dragon Waiter, and the Baby Dragon Germ. I seriously need thoughts from other people, I'm completely sure that the Angry Bird is not the same as the Mocking Bird, the differences are too drastic, and the lack of crown is the thing that most worries me.--[[User:Sergiomonty|Sergiomonty]] 16:54, 11 May 2012 (CEST)
 
::::::::::Well we asked the developers about the Magician/Mr Dark fiasco, maybe we could do the same here? The person responding didn't seem too angry when we asked her. --[[User:Iheckler9|iHeckler9]][[File:Life.gif|link=User:Iheckler9]] 17:58, 11 May 2012 (CEST)
 
:::::::::::I'm not sure if that's a good a idea, we decided to stop doing that so fans couldn't ask questions everytime they can, we don't really want to become an annoying fanbase for the developers. However, if we decide to do it in JUST this case, uhm... then I suggest to first ask if they're the same character, If they aren't then we must ask the real name of the Angry Bird, just to kill two birds with one stone (no pun intended).--[[User:Sergiomonty|Sergiomonty]] 18:19, 11 May 2012 (CEST)


:::::::: First, The colouring error is too theoretical to be proven, and still doesn't explain the lack of crown and the sudden change of clothes (and the crown is too important to be forgotten). Although the changes in Mama Hite to a nymph are notable, the nymph still resembles somehow big mama (hair and dress colour). While the Bzzzit/Moskito colour case is confusing, I think it doesn't have much to do with this game, that kind of programming mistakes should have been corrected a long time ago, technology has evolved. I forgot to mention something, some birds have slanted eyelids, like the Blowing Bird; curiously, in your evolutionary scale, only the Angry Bird has them, while both the good and bad Mocking Birds have fully opened eyes.  Now, the similar-looking legs are not really something of big importance, both are birds, that's normal, and ubiart reuses tons of sprites to make different enemies; a good example is the Baby Dragon Chef, the Baby Dragon Waiter, and the Baby Dragon Germ. I seriously need thoughts from other people, I'm completely sure that the Angry Bird is not the same as the Mocking Bird, the differences are too drastic, and the lack of crown is the thing that most worries me.--[[User:Sergiomonty|Sergiomonty]] 16:54, 11 May 2012 (CEST)
:::::::::::<nowiki>*We*</nowiki> didn't ask the developers about the identity of the Rayman Origins villain: one of our members took it upon himself without consulting us. It worked out for the best, but that was a much more important question than this, and we really don't want to get ourselves a reputation for harassing developers with fanboyish questions on their Facebook pages. I think we're smart enough to figure out what's going on with the birds ourselves. [[User:Spiraldoor|Spiraldoor]] [[File:IconSpiralDoor.png|link=User:Spiraldoor]] 20:41, 11 May 2012 (CEST)


:::::::::Well we asked the developers about the Magician/Mr Dark fiasco, maybe we could do the same here? The person responding didn't seem too angry when we asked her. --[[User:Iheckler9|iHeckler9]][[File:Life.gif|link=User:Iheckler9]] 17:58, 11 May 2012 (CEST)
:::::::::I don't agree in the fact that "the attacks are equal". The Corrupted King flies with a bird swarm and gives headbutts, while the Hi-Ho Moskito bird doesn't. The only common attacks they have are harming the character by physical contact or getting caught by the wind and going inside the birds' beaks. One distinct attack of the Hi-Ho Moskito guardian is the helicopter bomb inhaling and spitting. I don't believe they are the same character, aswell there are no direct or clear evidences to speculate such, even if there are some clothing and physical similarities. For me they are different characters, like the Bzzit/Moskito fact, and I believe more in my theory that the Hi-Ho Moskito is a corrupted version of the regular bird enemies. It is the closest and most coerent thing I can think at the moment, and I don't find this impossible since the Darktoons/Antitoons are also corrupted versions of Electoons so it can affect any creature of the Glade. --[[Image:Sparkle.gif]][[User:Haruka|Haruka]][[Image:Sparkle.gif]] 20:05, 11 May 2012 (CEST)


::::::::::I'm not sure if that's a good a idea, we decided to stop doing that so fans couldn't ask questions everytime they can, we don't really want to become an annoying fanbase for the developers. However, if we decide to do it in JUST this case, uhm... then I suggest to first ask if they're the same character, If they aren't then we must ask the real name of the Angry Bird, just to kill two birds with one stone (no pun intended).--[[User:Sergiomonty|Sergiomonty]] 18:19, 11 May 2012 (CEST)
:::::::::I could drag this out for another while, but I see that no one agrees.
:::::::::Moving on: I don't think [[Guardian Bird]] is an appropriate title. Why create a name when we already have a perfectly official one – [[Guardian of the Music World]]? The current title of the [[Giant Eel]] page is also unofficial: we should move it to [[Guardian of the Ocean World]]. And could someone remind me how [[Mini-Murray]] fits into all this (and why he doesn't have an article)? —[[User:Spiraldoor|Spiraldoor]] [[File:IconSpiralDoor.png|link=User:Spiraldoor]] 20:41, 11 May 2012 (CEST)
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