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==The Basic Setup==

Just inside the entrance to [[Sanctuary of Stone and Fire|the level]], there is a secret room at the bottom of a fissure that can be accessed only by riding a [[plum]] on the [[lava]], down a narrow corridor. At the end of the corridor there is another [[plum]] tree on dry land, and a post in the middle of some hot lava. The idea is to get the [[plum]] from the tree, throw it onto the post, and use the resulting platform to hop up to a higher level. Up there, there is another [[plum]] growing, over a ledge looking out onto a very hot region with some more stone ledges, and pillars with posts sticking out of them. Here, the new [[plum]] should be thrown at one of the posts, from which it will fall. [[Rayman]] needs to stand under it to catch it and throw it to the next post, from which it will also fall. He needs to catch it again and then place it on horizontal ground. He can then jump on it and access a high corridor, at the end of which is a [[cage]] containing a [[Super Yellow Lum]].

Just inside the entrance to [[Sanctuary of Stone and Fire|the level]], there is a secret room at the bottom of a fissure that can be accessed only by riding a [[plum]] on the lava, down a narrow corridor. At the end of the corridor there is another [[plum]] tree on dry land, and a post in the middle of some hot lava. The idea is to get the [[plum]] from the tree, throw it onto the post, and use the resulting platform to hop up to a higher level. Up there, there is another [[plum]] growing, over a ledge looking out onto a very hot region with some more stone ledges, and pillars with posts sticking out of them. Here, the new [[plum]] should be thrown at one of the posts, from which it will fall. [[Rayman]] needs to stand under it to catch it and throw it to the next post, from which it will also fall. He needs to catch it again and then place it on horizontal ground. He can then jump on it and access a high corridor, at the end of which is a [[cage]] containing a [[Super Yellow Lum]].

Playing this game, one would intuitively think that whether the [[plum]] stays on the post, or falls after a few seconds, is a property of the posts themselves. Presumably this is the in-[[Glade of Dreams|universe]] physical explanation.

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==First Indications of Something Unorthodox==

Having played ''[[Rayman 2]]'' for many years, I have tried several times to change things slightly, by using the [[plum]] on which I ride in to form the platform with the first post, instead of taking a new one from the tree. After all, [[plum]]s are a precious natural resource, so why waste one? Anyway, attempts to do this ''always'' failed, suggesting that the issue wasn't lack of skill or bad luck on my part. Still, I didn't spend too much time thinking about it. Maybe all that bouncing on [[lava]] simply softened the [[plum]] up too much so the post could no longer pierce it in the desired manner.

Having played ''[[Rayman 2]]'' for many years, I have tried several times to change things slightly, by using the [[plum]] on which I ride in to form the platform with the first post, instead of taking a new one from the tree. After all, [[plum]]s are a precious natural resource, so why waste one? Anyway, attempts to do this ''always'' failed, suggesting that the issue wasn't lack of skill or bad luck on my part. Still, I didn't spend too much time thinking about it. Maybe all that bouncing on lava simply softened the [[plum]] up too much so the post could no longer pierce it in the desired manner.

This changed in May 2017 when, during a conversation with [[User:Ray502|Ray502]] in a [https://raymanpc.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=4651 forum game thread], I published [https://raymanpc.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=4651&p=1217110&hilit=posts#p1217147 a video] demonstrating the phenomenon. [[User:Droolie|Droolie]] suggested looking more closely at the matter.

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 ==The Basic Setup==
-Just inside the entrance to [[Sanctuary of Stone and Fire|the level]], there is a secret room at the bottom of a fissure that can be accessed only by riding a [[plum]] on the [[lava]], down a narrow corridor. At the end of the corridor there is another [[plum]] tree on dry land, and a post in the middle of some hot lava. The idea is to get the [[plum]] from the tree, throw it onto the post, and use the resulting platform to hop up to a higher level. Up there, there is another [[plum]] growing, over a ledge looking out onto a very hot region with some more stone ledges, and pillars with posts sticking out of them. Here, the new [[plum]] should be thrown at one of the posts, from which it will fall. [[Rayman]] needs to stand under it to catch it and throw it to the next post, from which it will also fall. He needs to catch it again and then place it on horizontal ground. He can then jump on it and access a high corridor, at the end of which is a [[cage]] containing a [[Super Yellow Lum]].
+Just inside the entrance to [[Sanctuary of Stone and Fire|the level]], there is a secret room at the bottom of a fissure that can be accessed only by riding a [[plum]] on the lava, down a narrow corridor. At the end of the corridor there is another [[plum]] tree on dry land, and a post in the middle of some hot lava. The idea is to get the [[plum]] from the tree, throw it onto the post, and use the resulting platform to hop up to a higher level. Up there, there is another [[plum]] growing, over a ledge looking out onto a very hot region with some more stone ledges, and pillars with posts sticking out of them. Here, the new [[plum]] should be thrown at one of the posts, from which it will fall. [[Rayman]] needs to stand under it to catch it and throw it to the next post, from which it will also fall. He needs to catch it again and then place it on horizontal ground. He can then jump on it and access a high corridor, at the end of which is a [[cage]] containing a [[Super Yellow Lum]].
 Playing this game, one would intuitively think that whether the [[plum]] stays on the post, or falls after a few seconds, is a property of the posts themselves. Presumably this is the in-[[Glade of Dreams|universe]] physical explanation.
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 ==First Indications of Something Unorthodox==
-Having played ''[[Rayman 2]]'' for many years, I have tried several times to change things slightly, by using the [[plum]] on which I ride in to form the platform with the first post, instead of taking a new one from the tree. After all, [[plum]]s are a precious natural resource, so why waste one? Anyway, attempts to do this ''always'' failed, suggesting that the issue wasn't lack of skill or bad luck on my part. Still, I didn't spend too much time thinking about it. Maybe all that bouncing on [[lava]] simply softened the [[plum]] up too much so the post could no longer pierce it in the desired manner.
+Having played ''[[Rayman 2]]'' for many years, I have tried several times to change things slightly, by using the [[plum]] on which I ride in to form the platform with the first post, instead of taking a new one from the tree. After all, [[plum]]s are a precious natural resource, so why waste one? Anyway, attempts to do this ''always'' failed, suggesting that the issue wasn't lack of skill or bad luck on my part. Still, I didn't spend too much time thinking about it. Maybe all that bouncing on lava simply softened the [[plum]] up too much so the post could no longer pierce it in the desired manner.
 This changed in May 2017 when, during a conversation with [[User:Ray502|Ray502]] in a [https://raymanpc.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=4651 forum game thread], I published [https://raymanpc.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=4651&p=1217110&hilit=posts#p1217147 a video] demonstrating the phenomenon. [[User:Droolie|Droolie]] suggested looking more closely at the matter.