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To take up this ancient discussion once again, the assertion here that they are all female still seems to be based on speculation. Furthermore, the French wiki makes no such assertion: the infobox there says they are either male or female. Which is right? [[User:Plumgmk|Plumgmk]] ([[User talk:Plumgmk|talk]]) 11:43, 19 May 2019 (CEST)

:As far as I'm concerned, I'm not aware of any indication that they are all female. Antitoons have ponytails too (it was the nineties), and not everything pink is female, thank god. Though we might want to consult our Rayman scholar [[User:Boomboleros7|boomboleros7]] just in case. —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png|class=sprite|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif|class=sprite|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png|class=sprite|link=User:Hunchman801]] 19:42, 20 May 2019 (CEST)

::Sorry for the late reply, the "Rayman scholar" didn't saw this discussion. ^^

::So, about our friends the Electoons...

::First of all, the sex of the members of that species has been never defined clearly.

::So what could we use to answer that question?

::The body?

::Hunch said everything, ponytail is also a male hairstyle and pink isn't for women only. Same thing for long blond hair.

::The hearts in R1?

::It's true that they look Rayman with a heart above them if he stays next to them.

::Yeah but I think these hearts represent their joy to be free again and/or their thankfulness to Rayman, not love.

::Speaking of that, I think that the hearts given by the Teensie Kings and Queens in RL is a reference to the hearts of the Electoons in R1. It's also a way to tell their thankfulness to Rayman and the other heroes, of course.

::Anyway...

::The voice?

::It's hard to say who voiced the Electoons in R1 (could be men and/or women), but we are sure that they are dubbed by a woman in RO and some French educational games.

::Yeah but do I have to remember that women are more talented than men to dub young girls AND boys? Or, more appropriately, small female AND male creatures? It isn't a clear proof.

::Texts, maybe?

::No manual nor dialogue speaks about the Electoons by using singular, they only use plural.

::In French grammar, there are some ways to speak about a group only composed by women, by using "elles" instead of "ils" ("they") or by adding "-es" or "-ées" instead of "-s" or"-és" at the end of a word. But to speak about a group composed by men and women, EVEN if there is only one man, we must use masculine terms.

::In some French dialogues in RO, we can read "''Seuls les Electoons...''", "''Chaque Electoon sauvé...''" and "''Les Electoons, c'est eux qui ont le pouvoir des rêves ! Ils maintiennent l'équilibre du monde !''". It seems that there is at least one male Electoon in the Glade of Dreams...

::So, to conclude... Electoons don't seem to be all female. Nor all male either.

::They seem to be both to me.

::Or, if we aren't sure, we can indicate "Unknown" or "Asexual" in the "Sex" line of their template. --[[User:Boomboleros7|Boomboleros7]] 01:33, 5 June 2019 (CEST)

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 To take up this ancient discussion once again, the assertion here that they are all female still seems to be based on speculation. Furthermore, the French wiki makes no such assertion: the infobox there says they are either male or female. Which is right? [[User:Plumgmk|Plumgmk]] ([[User talk:Plumgmk|talk]]) 11:43, 19 May 2019 (CEST)
 :As far as I'm concerned, I'm not aware of any indication that they are all female. Antitoons have ponytails too (it was the nineties), and not everything pink is female, thank god. Though we might want to consult our Rayman scholar [[User:Boomboleros7|boomboleros7]] just in case. —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png|class=sprite|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif|class=sprite|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png|class=sprite|link=User:Hunchman801]] 19:42, 20 May 2019 (CEST)
+::Sorry for the late reply, the "Rayman scholar" didn't saw this discussion. ^^
+::So, about our friends the Electoons...
+::First of all, the sex of the members of that species has been never defined clearly.
+::So what could we use to answer that question?
+::The body?
+::Hunch said everything, ponytail is also a male hairstyle and pink isn't for women only. Same thing for long blond hair.
+::The hearts in R1?
+::It's true that they look Rayman with a heart above them if he stays next to them.
+::Yeah but I think these hearts represent their joy to be free again and/or their thankfulness to Rayman, not love.
+::Speaking of that, I think that the hearts given by the Teensie Kings and Queens in RL is a reference to the hearts of the Electoons in R1. It's also a way to tell their thankfulness to Rayman and the other heroes, of course.
+::Anyway...
+::The voice?
+::It's hard to say who voiced the Electoons in R1 (could be men and/or women), but we are sure that they are dubbed by a woman in RO and some French educational games.
+::Yeah but do I have to remember that women are more talented than men to dub young girls AND boys? Or, more appropriately, small female AND male creatures? It isn't a clear proof.
+::Texts, maybe?
+::No manual nor dialogue speaks about the Electoons by using singular, they only use plural.
+::In French grammar, there are some ways to speak about a group only composed by women, by using "elles" instead of "ils" ("they") or by adding "-es" or "-ées" instead of "-s" or"-és" at the end of a word. But to speak about a group composed by men and women, EVEN if there is only one man, we must use masculine terms.
+::In some French dialogues in RO, we can read "''Seuls les Electoons...''", "''Chaque Electoon sauvé...''" and "''Les Electoons, c'est eux qui ont le pouvoir des rêves ! Ils maintiennent l'équilibre du monde !''". It seems that there is at least one male Electoon in the Glade of Dreams...
+::So, to conclude... Electoons don't seem to be all female. Nor all male either.
+::They seem to be both to me.
+::Or, if we aren't sure, we can indicate "Unknown" or "Asexual" in the "Sex" line of their template. --[[User:Boomboleros7|Boomboleros7]] 01:33, 5 June 2019 (CEST)