Category talk:Aquatic creatures
Shall Céloche and the Hoodlum watercraft be included in this category? Both are arguably creatures – it's very difficult to draw the line between a Hoodlum and his vehicle, as the Black Lum is the only living part. The rest is only an apparatus, and we've never seen any Hoodlum piloting either of these vehicles – Céloche and the watercraft could quite easily be 'suits' controlled by the Black Lums within, just like the Hoodmongers or any other Hoodlum. —Spiraldoor 
16:12, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
- I can say that's a plausible argument. Why not? --
Haruka 17:51, 18 March 2011 (UTC) - In the absence of any proof indicating the presence of a Black Lum, I don't think they should. —
14:02, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
- That's also true but, now it makes me think: is it officaily said anywhere that Céloche is a creation of the Hoodlums? The same thing I ask for the watercrafts. Haruka 20:34, 19 March 2011 (UTC)----
- The watercrafts are said to be a creation of the Hoodlums in an official press release – the one describing the Looming Sea. I don't think it was ever specified that Céloche was a Hoodlum, but it's quite clear from context that he is – why else would a mechanical tripod appear in the Land of the Livid Dead and attack Rayman? He is quite out-of-place in that environment, and is clearly an artificial creation of some sort. His turret appears similar to Hoodlum machinery such as the Armaguiddons. I suppose there is a very remote possibility that Céloche is a Robo-Pirate creation, but the only evidence to support this is his eyes, which I suspect are simply an Easter egg. —Spiraldoor 21:30, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
- The watercrafts are said to be a creation of the Hoodlums in an official press release – the one describing the Looming Sea. I don't think it was ever specified that Céloche was a Hoodlum, but it's quite clear from context that he is – why else would a mechanical tripod appear in the Land of the Livid Dead and attack Rayman? He is quite out-of-place in that environment, and is clearly an artificial creation of some sort. His turret appears similar to Hoodlum machinery such as the Armaguiddons. I suppose there is a very remote possibility that Céloche is a Robo-Pirate creation, but the only evidence to support this is his eyes, which I suspect are simply an Easter egg. —Spiraldoor
- That's also true but, now it makes me think: is it officaily said anywhere that Céloche is a creation of the Hoodlums? The same thing I ask for the watercrafts.
