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I'm not sure how to name these specific Hoodlums from the portable Rayman 3 because they have the visual of an "x" Hoodlum type, but they use attack/defense tecniques from "y" Hoodlum types. Would we go for the visual representation or the weapons used? --[[Image:Sparkle.gif]][[User:Haruka|Haruka]][[Image:Sparkle.gif]] 19:45, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

:::Probably the attacks. Both are remeniscent of Grim Keepers, but they both have completely different attacks. --[[User:Iheckler9|iHeckler9]][[File:Life.gif|link=User:Iheckler9]] 19:55, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

::::Something tells me we should go for the visuals. I go by this example: By a F1 pilot ~~running~~ with a F1 car it doesn't mean he cannot drive a normal car or a bike. --[[Image:Sparkle.gif]][[User:Haruka|Haruka]][[Image:Sparkle.gif]] 19:56, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

::::Something tells me we should go for the visuals. I go by this example: If a F1 pilot runs with a F1 car it doesn't mean he cannot drive a normal car or a bike. --[[Image:Sparkle.gif]][[User:Haruka|Haruka]][[Image:Sparkle.gif]] 19:56, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

:::::Too late; I already moved some stuff. --[[User:Iheckler9|iHeckler9]][[File:Life.gif|link=User:Iheckler9]] 19:59, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

:::::I don't see what the confusion is about. Those look like different-coloured Slapdashes to me. —[[User:Spiraldoor|Spiraldoor]] [[File:IconSpiralDoor.png|link=User:Spiraldoor]] 20:00, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

::::::You should look well: it is clearly a Grim Keeper (his clothes and the "half-coconut helmet"). Conclusion: Hoodlums do not stick to their main battle strategies. --[[Image:Sparkle.gif]][[User:Haruka|Haruka]][[Image:Sparkle.gif]] 20:04, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

:::::::That's a fairly extreme conclusion. I think it's just a Slapdash with a slightly different look. —[[User:Spiraldoor|Spiraldoor]] [[File:IconSpiralDoor.png|link=User:Spiraldoor]] 20:12, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

::::::::I can guarantee you that around 90% of the Grim Keepers colours when compared with the in-game R3 (GBA) and the official artwork are equal. Your thoughts are more correct about the Hoodbooms, especially a specific Hoodboom that uses a metal shield. --[[Image:Sparkle.gif]][[User:Haruka|Haruka]][[Image:Sparkle.gif]] 20:16, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

:As I said earlier, I think there should be separate articles (or at least separate sections) for those enemies. While those throwing explosive bottles of plum juice at Rayman could be referred to as '''Armoured Hoodbooms''', I would tend to privilege the appellation '''Armoured Slapdashes''' for those wielding the sticks with boxing gloves, since their resemblance to Grim Keepers is purely visual. I think this should settle the problem. —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png|link=User:Hunchman801]] 21:38, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

::+1. But what do we call the Siamese Hoodlum? And where do we put the flying Grims? --[[User:Iheckler9|iHeckler9]][[File:Life.gif|link=User:Iheckler9]] 10:10, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

:::The flying Grims are just an early version of those that can be found in the game, so I added them to both the Grim and Grim Keeper articles, and I would recommend creating a new article for the Siamese Hoodlum, as it bears no resemblance to any other of its kind. —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png|link=User:Hunchman801]] 13:51, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

::::Really? To me, they bear a resemblance to a Spinneroo. --[[User:Iheckler9|iHeckler9]][[File:Life.gif|link=User:Iheckler9]] 14:15, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

:::::Certainly, but not enough to consider them Spinneroos, don't you think? How we're gonna deal with the shielded Hoodbooms and the Hoodstormers in R3 GBA remains to be seen. —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png|link=User:Hunchman801]] 17:10, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

::::::If you check the [[Hoodlum]] page, you'll find I already started making the [[Shielded Hoodboom]] page. As for the Hoodstormer, I think because it serves the exact same purpose, we keep it in the Hoodstormer page. --[[User:Iheckler9|iHeckler9]][[File:Life.gif|link=User:Iheckler9]] 17:13, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

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 I'm not sure how to name these specific Hoodlums from the portable Rayman 3 because they have the visual of an "x" Hoodlum type, but they use attack/defense tecniques from "y" Hoodlum types. Would we go for the visual representation or the weapons used? --[[Image:Sparkle.gif]][[User:Haruka|Haruka]][[Image:Sparkle.gif]] 19:45, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
 :::Probably the attacks. Both are remeniscent of Grim Keepers, but they both have completely different attacks. --[[User:Iheckler9|iHeckler9]][[File:Life.gif|link=User:Iheckler9]] 19:55, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
-::::Something tells me we should go for the visuals. I go by this example: By a F1 pilot running with a F1 car it doesn't mean he cannot drive a normal car or a bike. --[[Image:Sparkle.gif]][[User:Haruka|Haruka]][[Image:Sparkle.gif]] 19:56, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
+::::Something tells me we should go for the visuals. I go by this example: If a F1 pilot runs with a F1 car it doesn't mean he cannot drive a normal car or a bike. --[[Image:Sparkle.gif]][[User:Haruka|Haruka]][[Image:Sparkle.gif]] 19:56, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
+:::::Too late; I already moved some stuff. --[[User:Iheckler9|iHeckler9]][[File:Life.gif|link=User:Iheckler9]] 19:59, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
+:::::I don't see what the confusion is about. Those look like different-coloured Slapdashes to me. —[[User:Spiraldoor|Spiraldoor]] [[File:IconSpiralDoor.png|link=User:Spiraldoor]] 20:00, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
+::::::You should look well: it is clearly a Grim Keeper (his clothes and the "half-coconut helmet"). Conclusion: Hoodlums do not stick to their main battle strategies. --[[Image:Sparkle.gif]][[User:Haruka|Haruka]][[Image:Sparkle.gif]] 20:04, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
+:::::::That's a fairly extreme conclusion. I think it's just a Slapdash with a slightly different look. —[[User:Spiraldoor|Spiraldoor]] [[File:IconSpiralDoor.png|link=User:Spiraldoor]] 20:12, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
+::::::::I can guarantee you that around 90% of the Grim Keepers colours when compared with the in-game R3 (GBA) and the official artwork are equal. Your thoughts are more correct about the Hoodbooms, especially a specific Hoodboom that uses a metal shield. --[[Image:Sparkle.gif]][[User:Haruka|Haruka]][[Image:Sparkle.gif]] 20:16, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
+:As I said earlier, I think there should be separate articles (or at least separate sections) for those enemies. While those throwing explosive bottles of plum juice at Rayman could be referred to as '''Armoured Hoodbooms''', I would tend to privilege the appellation '''Armoured Slapdashes''' for those wielding the sticks with boxing gloves, since their resemblance to Grim Keepers is purely visual. I think this should settle the problem. —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png|link=User:Hunchman801]] 21:38, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
+::+1. But what do we call the Siamese Hoodlum? And where do we put the flying Grims? --[[User:Iheckler9|iHeckler9]][[File:Life.gif|link=User:Iheckler9]] 10:10, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
+:::The flying Grims are just an early version of those that can be found in the game, so I added them to both the Grim and Grim Keeper articles, and I would recommend creating a new article for the Siamese Hoodlum, as it bears no resemblance to any other of its kind. —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png|link=User:Hunchman801]] 13:51, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
+::::Really? To me, they bear a resemblance to a Spinneroo. --[[User:Iheckler9|iHeckler9]][[File:Life.gif|link=User:Iheckler9]] 14:15, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
+:::::Certainly, but not enough to consider them Spinneroos, don't you think? How we're gonna deal with the shielded Hoodbooms and the Hoodstormers in R3 GBA remains to be seen. —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png|link=User:Hunchman801]] 17:10, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
+::::::If you check the [[Hoodlum]] page, you'll find I already started making the [[Shielded Hoodboom]] page. As for the Hoodstormer, I think because it serves the exact same purpose, we keep it in the Hoodstormer page. --[[User:Iheckler9|iHeckler9]][[File:Life.gif|link=User:Iheckler9]] 17:13, 22 February 2011 (UTC)