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Skimming through the article, it does seem that there are some pretty large and unsightly walls of text without any proper breaks. I'd be tempted to refine things down so that they're easier to comprehend and read through. --[[File:Sig5 2TEST.png|150px|link=User:Master]] 00:01, 1 May 2015 (CEST)

: I agree, it's one thing to have as much info on something as poss but presenting it well us another. You do what you gotta do. --[[User:Cairnie|Cairnie]] ([[User talk:Cairnie|talk]]) 12:46, 1 May 2015 (CEST)

== References cleanup ==

I have removed or amended the following items for the corresponding reasons:

*"The airballoon from Rayman 2, appears in the level "Clearleaf forest"." ''Is it actually the same air balloon? Asset reuse is not necessarily a reference anyway.''

*"Zombie-checkens from Rayman 2 makes an appart in the level "Desert of the Kanarrens"." ''Returning enemies/characters are more than just a reference.''

*"Céloche's 'eyes', the 'face' on its turret, the 'eyes' on the metal fish and details on the side of the laser cannon use a texture from Rayman 2, identical to the portholes found in Robo-Pirate strongholds." ''Asset reuse is not necessarily a reference.''

*"In Globox´s quote, he says that rayman was "much nicer in Rayman 2"." ''Fair enough, but this should probably be grouped with the many other references to R1 and R2 in the dialogue. Keeping it for now.''

*"The minigame "Rocket jump" is similar to the game "pong"." ''It's a tennis game, that's about it.''

*"The minigame "2D madness" references the first Rayman game." ''Why not, I've added the manual and 2D Nightmare but there's probably more.''

*""They are out there, I have seen them" is a quote of a movie I cannot recall at the moment." ''Do I really need to address this?'' [[File:Boon.gif]]

*"Globox´s quote "king of the doors" is a parody of "king of the djungle"." ''Please elaborate?''

*"Globox´s quote "You have seen too many Gladiator flicks" is a reference the the movie serie "Gladiator"." ''Where do I even start here?'' [[File:Boon.gif]][[File:Boon.gif]]

*"*Rayman going through the witches mirror is similar to how Alice went through the mirror to a new world in the novel "Through the looking glass"." ''I think the word "similar" nailed it.''

*"Razoff´s quote "Dont prick yourself" is a reference to how Sleeping Beauty pricked her finger on a spinning will after being cursed by the evil witch in the fairy tail and Disney-movie by the same name." ''How far-fetched is this going to get?''

*"The enemy "Grim keeper" is a parody of "Grim reaper"." ''It's a pun, not a reference to other media.''

*"The enemy "Armaguiddon" is a pun on "Armageddon"." ''Ditto.''

*"In the level "Tower of leptys", there is a statue of kanaaren holding a boulder above his head, which is a reference to Sisyphus and his boulder, and Atlas that holds the world on his shoulders." ''Definitely Atlas, not Sisyphus.''

*"In the level "Fairy Council", the ludiv says "Is that you Mary Lou?", where Mary Lou is a reference to the song "Hello Mary Lou" from 1961." ''Just because the name is the same??''

*"It is highly likely that Céloche's design was inspired by that of the Martian tripod from H.G. Wells's classic science fiction novel, The War of the Worlds. Both are gigantic, mechanical tripods; both are piloted by antagonists; both use a Heat-Ray weapon; and both are capable of traversing both land and water." ''Not a place for "likely" references and other speculation.''

In the future, please use [https://raymanpc.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=73&t=27437 this topic] to discuss references before adding them to the article. —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png|class=sprite|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif|class=sprite|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png|class=sprite|link=User:Hunchman801]] 19:32, 11 January 2021 (CET)

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 Skimming through the article, it does seem that there are some pretty large and unsightly walls of text without any proper breaks. I'd be tempted to refine things down so that they're easier to comprehend and read through. --[[File:Sig5 2TEST.png|150px|link=User:Master]] 00:01, 1 May 2015 (CEST)
 : I agree, it's one thing to have as much info on something as poss but presenting it well us another.  You do what you gotta do.  --[[User:Cairnie|Cairnie]] ([[User talk:Cairnie|talk]]) 12:46, 1 May 2015 (CEST)
+== References cleanup ==
+I have removed or amended the following items for the corresponding reasons:
+*"The airballoon from Rayman 2, appears in the level "Clearleaf forest"." ''Is it actually the same air balloon? Asset reuse is not necessarily a reference anyway.''
+*"Zombie-checkens from Rayman 2 makes an appart in the level "Desert of the Kanarrens"." ''Returning enemies/characters are more than just a reference.''
+*"Céloche's 'eyes', the 'face' on its turret, the 'eyes' on the metal fish and details on the side of the laser cannon use a texture from Rayman 2, identical to the portholes found in Robo-Pirate strongholds." ''Asset reuse is not necessarily a reference.''
+*"In Globox´s quote, he says that rayman was "much nicer in Rayman 2"." ''Fair enough, but this should probably be grouped with the many other references to R1 and R2 in the dialogue. Keeping it for now.''
+*"The minigame "Rocket jump" is similar to the game "pong"." ''It's a tennis game, that's about it.''
+*"The minigame "2D madness" references the first Rayman game." ''Why not, I've added the manual and 2D Nightmare but there's probably more.''
+*""They are out there, I have seen them" is a quote of a movie I cannot recall at the moment." ''Do I really need to address this?'' [[File:Boon.gif]]
+*"Globox´s quote "king of the doors" is a parody of "king of the djungle"." ''Please elaborate?''
+*"Globox´s quote "You have seen too many Gladiator flicks" is a reference the the movie serie "Gladiator"." ''Where do I even start here?'' [[File:Boon.gif]][[File:Boon.gif]]
+*"*Rayman going through the witches mirror is similar to how Alice went through the mirror to a new world in the novel "Through the looking glass"." ''I think the word "similar" nailed it.''
+*"Razoff´s quote "Dont prick yourself" is a reference to how Sleeping Beauty pricked her finger on a spinning will after being cursed by the evil witch in the fairy tail and Disney-movie by the same name." ''How far-fetched is this going to get?''
+*"The enemy "Grim keeper" is a parody of "Grim reaper"." ''It's a pun, not a reference to other media.''
+*"The enemy "Armaguiddon" is a pun on "Armageddon"." ''Ditto.''
+*"In the level "Tower of leptys", there is a statue of kanaaren holding a boulder above his head, which is a reference to Sisyphus and his boulder, and Atlas that holds the world on his shoulders." ''Definitely Atlas, not Sisyphus.''
+*"In the level "Fairy Council", the ludiv says "Is that you Mary Lou?", where Mary Lou is a reference to the song "Hello Mary Lou" from 1961." ''Just because the name is the same??''
+*"It is highly likely that Céloche's design was inspired by that of the Martian tripod from H.G. Wells's classic science fiction novel, The War of the Worlds. Both are gigantic, mechanical tripods; both are piloted by antagonists; both use a Heat-Ray weapon; and both are capable of traversing both land and water." ''Not a place for "likely" references and other speculation.''
+In the future, please use [https://raymanpc.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=73&t=27437 this topic] to discuss references before adding them to the article. —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png|class=sprite|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif|class=sprite|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png|class=sprite|link=User:Hunchman801]] 19:32, 11 January 2021 (CET)